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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1922
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:35:00 -
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Losing that 25 percent reduction to hybrid weapons will invalidate all my fittings. We don't have enough CPU/PG as it is.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
7700
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:41:00 -
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There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1923
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:48:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want. I'm all for a plate bonus, but I'm only able to fit 2 enhanced plates and 1 complex rep+enhanced rep.
Dropping a enhanced plate for a basic would save me 10 CPU and a few PG.
The fitting reduction bonus saves me around 22 CPU and 3-4 PG on a Proto AR. Not to mention, once we get hybrid sidearms it will save even more CPU/PG.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
824
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:55:00 -
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Will make the core PG and CPU skills much more worth it.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
7702
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:01:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want. I'm all for a plate bonus, but I'm only able to fit 2 enhanced plates and 1 complex rep+enhanced rep. Dropping a enhanced plate for a basic would save me 10 CPU and a few PG. The fitting reduction bonus saves me around 22 CPU and 3-4 PG on a Proto AR. Not to mention, once we get hybrid sidearms it will save even more CPU/PG.
Are you seriously so tight on fitting that you'd say no to that bonus? What are you fitting?
I have a fit somewhere with dual complex reps, dual enhanced plates, triple damage mods and a Duvolle. Unless you're using core locus grenades and allotek hives I really can't see how you need that fitting so badly.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5442
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want. I'm all for a plate bonus, but I'm only able to fit 2 enhanced plates and 1 complex rep+enhanced rep. Dropping a enhanced plate for a basic would save me 10 CPU and a few PG. The fitting reduction bonus saves me around 22 CPU and 3-4 PG on a Proto AR. Not to mention, once we get hybrid sidearms it will save even more CPU/PG. Are you seriously so tight on fitting that you'd say no to that bonus? What are you fitting? I have a fit somewhere with dual complex reps, dual enhanced plates, triple damage mods and a Duvolle. Unless you're using core locus grenades and allotek hives I really can't see how you need that fitting so badly. Well, all of my fits are EXTREMELY tight WITH that bonus.
How the **** do you fit all of that I don't know.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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J'Hiera
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:16:00 -
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My advanced Gal suit is at 54/55 PG, forgot CPU, but think 275/276 or something.
Maxed assault and core fittings, just the 2 fitting on assault rifles, and I do believe it was 5 light weapons CPU reduction.
Gal suits are pretty tight. However, I welcome this change. I have stuff I can downgrade on and still make the suit viable.
On my advanced suit, if I don't change the lows, I get 60.5 armor HP more. You can debate over that change vs. say downgrading from 2 to 1 complex damage mods.
I think the bonus is great for squads with logi, as you could fi an additional plate instead of the repper, but it'll hurt the solo dude slightly. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1364
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:20:00 -
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Plus you have no idea if the base attributes of the suits are changing or not. There may be a change to slot layout, base HP, and PG/CPU...nothing is certain at this point.
ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1926
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:41:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want. I'm all for a plate bonus, but I'm only able to fit 2 enhanced plates and 1 complex rep+enhanced rep. Dropping a enhanced plate for a basic would save me 10 CPU and a few PG. The fitting reduction bonus saves me around 22 CPU and 3-4 PG on a Proto AR. Not to mention, once we get hybrid sidearms it will save even more CPU/PG. Are you seriously so tight on fitting that you'd say no to that bonus? What are you fitting? I have a fit somewhere with dual complex reps, dual enhanced plates, triple damage mods and a Duvolle. Unless you're using core locus grenades and allotek hives I really can't see how you need that fitting so badly. 2 complex dmg mods 1 basic shield extender 2 complex reps 2 enhanced plates Duvolle AR Six kin SMG M1 Locus Compact hive
I ran a toxic and std nano hive but changed out for this fit.
Total stats 173 shields 504 armour 12.50 repair per sec 394/394 CPU 77/79 PG 4.70 movement speed 6.92 sprint
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
7707
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want. I'm all for a plate bonus, but I'm only able to fit 2 enhanced plates and 1 complex rep+enhanced rep. Dropping a enhanced plate for a basic would save me 10 CPU and a few PG. The fitting reduction bonus saves me around 22 CPU and 3-4 PG on a Proto AR. Not to mention, once we get hybrid sidearms it will save even more CPU/PG. Are you seriously so tight on fitting that you'd say no to that bonus? What are you fitting? I have a fit somewhere with dual complex reps, dual enhanced plates, triple damage mods and a Duvolle. Unless you're using core locus grenades and allotek hives I really can't see how you need that fitting so badly. 2 complex dmg mods 1 basic shield extender 2 complex reps 2 enhanced plates Duvolle AR Six kin SMG M1 Locus Compact hive I ran a toxic and std nano hive but changed out for this fit. Total stats 173 shields 504 armour 12.50 repair per sec 394/394 CPU 77/79 PG 4.70 movement speed 6.92 sprint
>six kin SMG
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
763
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:16:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Losing that 25 percent reduction to hybrid weapons will invalidate all my fittings. We don't have enough CPU/PG as it is.
We don;t even know if they are touching the CPU/PG layouts there could be an extensive reworking of all the suits. As the CPM's say; nothing is official. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1928
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are base layout changes. Wait on those.
And seriously. You're saying no to a 25% plate bonus? Just downgrade a plate and you'll get the same thing if that's what you want. I'm all for a plate bonus, but I'm only able to fit 2 enhanced plates and 1 complex rep+enhanced rep. Dropping a enhanced plate for a basic would save me 10 CPU and a few PG. The fitting reduction bonus saves me around 22 CPU and 3-4 PG on a Proto AR. Not to mention, once we get hybrid sidearms it will save even more CPU/PG. Are you seriously so tight on fitting that you'd say no to that bonus? What are you fitting? I have a fit somewhere with dual complex reps, dual enhanced plates, triple damage mods and a Duvolle. Unless you're using core locus grenades and allotek hives I really can't see how you need that fitting so badly. 2 complex dmg mods 1 basic shield extender 2 complex reps 2 enhanced plates Duvolle AR Six kin SMG M1 Locus Compact hive I ran a toxic and std nano hive but changed out for this fit. Total stats 173 shields 504 armour 12.50 repair per sec 394/394 CPU 77/79 PG 4.70 movement speed 6.92 sprint >six kin SMG i already said i had a toxic but swapped a hive for it.
Not to mention, I need it for when the hybrid sidearms are introduced.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1928
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:29:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Losing that 25 percent reduction to hybrid weapons will invalidate all my fittings. We don't have enough CPU/PG as it is. We don;t even know if they are touching the CPU/PG layouts there could be an extensive reworking of all the suits. As the CPM's say; nothing is official. If we get a buff to CPU/PG then I would be fine giving up the bonus, but I doubt we will see a major change.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:07:00 -
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I'm also pretty disappointed to see the bonus go; I fit my suits to the brink most of the time and losing this bonus will force me to rethink alot of my fits unless there is a slot layout or CPU/PG change as others have mentioned. However let's just wait and see how this works out it may even help Gallente Assaults like you and I.
Anyway I thought I'd post my proto fit so that you might try it out; it works pretty well for me the few times I ever break it out.
Assault gk.0
1 Complex light Damage Modifier 2 Complex Shield Extenders Duvolle Assault Rifle 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade R-9 Drop Uplink 2 Enhanced Armor Plates 1 Basic Armor Plate 1 Basic Armor Repairer
Stats Shields - 295 Armor - 598 Price - 129,675 ISK
This is just my first proto fit; it is usually wise to have multiple for different situations. If you prefer more damage you can always switch out a shield extender for a damage mod too. This fit is just what I usually use when I am asked to jump in a PC battle.
2 Complex light Damage Modifiers 1 Complex Shield Extender GEK - 38 Assault Rifle 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun C-7 Flux Grenade K-2 Nanohive 3 Enhanced Armor Plates 1 Complex Armor Repairer
Stats Shields - 223 Armor - 625 Price - 102,315 ISK
That is my second fit; I usually run it when I need to be more self sustaining or when I want to take out enemy equipment with flux grenades. Both these fits have served me pretty well so perhaps they might work for you.
(P.S - you can even change them around pretty easily so these fits can be flexible when needed. Also if anyone has some fitting suggestions feel free but keep in mind I'm waiting to skill into a sidearm till there is one I actually like. All suggestions will be appreciated.)
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1929
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Posted - 2014.01.10 14:52:00 -
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Nosid Katona wrote:I'm also pretty disappointed to see the bonus go; I fit my suits to the brink most of the time and losing this bonus will force me to rethink alot of my fits unless there is a slot layout or CPU/PG change as others have mentioned. However let's just wait and see how this works out it may even help Gallente Assaults like you and I.
Anyway I thought I'd post my proto fit so that you might try it out; it works pretty well for me the few times I ever break it out.
Assault gk.0
1 Complex light Damage Modifier 2 Complex Shield Extenders Duvolle Assault Rifle 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade R-9 Drop Uplink 2 Enhanced Armor Plates 1 Basic Armor Plate 1 Basic Armor Repairer
Stats Shields - 295 Armor - 598 Price - 129,675 ISK
This is just my first proto fit; it is usually wise to have multiple for different situations. If you prefer more damage you can always switch out a shield extender for a damage mod too. This fit is just what I usually use when I am asked to jump in a PC battle.
2 Complex light Damage Modifiers 1 Complex Shield Extender GEK - 38 Assault Rifle 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun C-7 Flux Grenade K-2 Nanohive 3 Enhanced Armor Plates 1 Complex Armor Repairer
Stats Shields - 223 Armor - 625 Price - 102,315 ISK
That is my second fit; I usually run it when I need to be more self sustaining or when I want to take out enemy equipment with flux grenades. Both these fits have served me pretty well so perhaps they might work for you.
(P.S - you can even change them around pretty easily so these fits can be flexible when needed. Also if anyone has some fitting suggestions feel free but keep in mind I'm waiting to skill into a sidearm till there is one I actually like. All suggestions will be appreciated.)
Vae Victis thank you for the fits.
I've never been a fan of the GeK, just can get any use of it.
Also, have you tried stacking complex plates and a complex repper? Works pretty well as a mini heavy, if you can fit a repair hive or even a compact it can work pretty well. Just try to stick with a Logi.
Though, you triple enhanced plate setup with a complex extender does about the same thing.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
56
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:53:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Nosid Katona wrote:I'm also pretty disappointed to see the bonus go; I fit my suits to the brink most of the time and losing this bonus will force me to rethink alot of my fits unless there is a slot layout or CPU/PG change as others have mentioned. However let's just wait and see how this works out it may even help Gallente Assaults like you and I.
Anyway I thought I'd post my proto fit so that you might try it out; it works pretty well for me the few times I ever break it out.
Assault gk.0
1 Complex light Damage Modifier 2 Complex Shield Extenders Duvolle Assault Rifle 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade R-9 Drop Uplink 2 Enhanced Armor Plates 1 Basic Armor Plate 1 Basic Armor Repairer
Stats Shields - 295 Armor - 598 Price - 129,675 ISK
This is just my first proto fit; it is usually wise to have multiple for different situations. If you prefer more damage you can always switch out a shield extender for a damage mod too. This fit is just what I usually use when I am asked to jump in a PC battle.
2 Complex light Damage Modifiers 1 Complex Shield Extender GEK - 38 Assault Rifle 'Toxin' ICD-9 Submachine Gun C-7 Flux Grenade K-2 Nanohive 3 Enhanced Armor Plates 1 Complex Armor Repairer
Stats Shields - 223 Armor - 625 Price - 102,315 ISK
That is my second fit; I usually run it when I need to be more self sustaining or when I want to take out enemy equipment with flux grenades. Both these fits have served me pretty well so perhaps they might work for you.
(P.S - you can even change them around pretty easily so these fits can be flexible when needed. Also if anyone has some fitting suggestions feel free but keep in mind I'm waiting to skill into a sidearm till there is one I actually like. All suggestions will be appreciated.)
Vae Victis thank you for the fits. I've never been a fan of the GeK, just can't get any use out of it. Also, have you tried stacking complex plates and a complex repper? Works pretty well as a mini heavy, if you can fit a repair hive or even a compact it can work pretty well. Just try to stick with a Logi. Though, you triple enhanced plate setup with a complex extender does about the same thing.
I have tried stacking Complex plates before I just found I can get more health this way without using too much CPU/PG. I also have an advanced fit with a repair nano, GLU-5, and Flux grenades that I run when I am protecting something or holding my position. I haven't made a Proto fit with one yet but I don't have proto nanohives yet and I usually have a logi with me when running those suits.
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