Swarms need a bit of a range buff OR a lock on timer reduction, but not both. AV grenades, maybe slight dmg, but not much. Teamwork you assholes, teamwork is the new AV. And it is FREE.

First off, swarm launchers need a damage buff AND a small range buff if they ever hope to be considered anything but a joke. Second, how many players does it take to drive a tank? One, right? That means it should take one dedicated AV merc to take out a HAV. Until HAVs require teamwork to operate, AV should not require teamwork to operate.

Cal assaults are getting an additional 66hp if they run 4 complex extenders. with the RoF increase I would hardly call this significant. TTD (time to die) will be virtually unchanged in their case.

Seriously? 1 good AVer can take a MLT tank out no prob, flux, then swarm. Either put a FG overwatch on the field and spam your AV nades, or call a tank in and wipe the tank out?

Git Gud?

Not having a lot of luck taking out tanks with AV grenades actually. Even with hardeners down the HAV just giggles when the grenades hit it.

I run medium Caldari dropsuits primarily. Are you saying I need to dump SP into heavy dropsuits/forge guns to counter one specific vehicle? No one sees a problem with that? Essentially you are saying, "HAVs are easy to kill, just grind for several weeks and completely change your playstyle."

Not having a lot of luck taking out tanks with AV grenades actually. Even with hardeners down the HAV just giggles when the grenades hit it.

I run medium Caldari dropsuits primarily. Are you saying I need to dump SP into heavy dropsuits/forge guns to counter one specific vehicle? No one sees a problem with that? Essentially you are saying, "HAVs are easy to kill, just grind for several weeks and completely change your playstyle."



That is VASTLY overestimating the amount of SP you need to faceroll ina HAV. So much so that you have to be trolling at this point. No one actually believes this.



Nope. I don't see HAVs requiring squad mates to faceroll, so until they do infantry shouldn't either. This is what is commonly referred to in gaming as "balance"

Does this include the 25% passive as well?

See the OP. Get a team, get a squad. If you cannot utilize teamwork in this game, then you will eventually quit from frustration. Sooner rather than later. Join a corp.

I'm saying that you are correct. It is not easy for YOU to burn down an HAV. It is very easy for you and your squad (really one or two others) to take 3 minutes, get to a supply depot, organize a blitzkrieg and destroy an HAV.

I was basing it off the 66hp for a complex extender so i could be a few Hp short depending on how they calculate it. either way not significant. anyways wouldn't you want to equip some damage mods to get the full benefit of the RoF bonus? that's going to reduce the benefit of the extender bonus.

Now you're thinking!!!! Lol, that's the great part is we will actually face decisions as to what to put in the Highs in this build. It is not so cut and dry anymore!

25% of 66 = 16.5, x4 = 66. Pretty significant.

but I like where your heads at!

Also as Caldari though, if you NEED the ehp, like Minmatar don't be so afraid of an armor plate, low fitting costs....It will add a lot more diversity to the fits we can make. (I'm WINMATAR btw).