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KingBabar
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:42:00 -
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This goes IF they implement the New Galente Logi bonus.
The Math suggest that when scanned by a "standard" proto scanner, a medium frame needs 3 dampeners to avoid it, same goes for scouts, except the Galente which comes With a build in one.
I fear that this cost of staying dampened is too much. We're talking about 280 Points of armor if you have the 3 PG needed for 3 basic armor plates....
I predict a massive player migration from other logi suits over to the Galente. Which self respecting PC team will go in without one or more of these "scout sniffers"? Not many.
The end result of this may be that most players won't bother With the stealth game at all and instead we'll be back to 2 months ago were as good as all the relevant players did the max DPS/Tank thing. And everybody will know exactly were the enemy team is at all times, leading to blob vs blob gameplay mostly.
There are off course uncertainties such as how the cloacking will work, will you emitt the same DB when the cloak is activated?
This is all mostly speculations off corse.
With this I hope CCP see a potential killer of the stealth game, I hope they have a plan for this or take a second look at it.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.01.09 11:22:00 -
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@ Rei and Benthner
Well, I think its quite balanced as it is right now. A scout suit needs 1 dampener to stay hidden and the medium frames need 2.
So I have to make a choice, more armor or totally invisible?
Like that dom game we played yesterday, granted, I played "smart" for once, actually defending the objective instead of going on a wannabee killspree, I was loocking down approaches With REs, playing careful etc. Going up against you, 13ear, and some more AE players, how often do you think a scrub like me goes 25-1 vs that kind of opponents?
Its never happened before.
When its me and 13ear straight up in a 1 vs 1 he'd take me out 8 out of 10 times, same With Rei. That game I killed 13ear 3 times I believe, he didn't get me at all. And thats hardly surprising, I knew exactly were he was at all times, he couldn't see me. Get shot in the back much?
So Yeah, the "You have been scanned" Message is annoying when you get it all the time. On the other hand, getting the "Scan attempt prevented" Message every 5 second is equally satisfying...
Using 2 low slots for tank or stealth is OK IMO.
With the New Galente suit we're talking about using 3 low slots, seems a tad excessive no?
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2014.01.09 13:08:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Check your math again. With the Gal Logi bonus, their proto scans will be at 21dB, so you'll need FIVE complex dampeners on a medium suit to avoid it. Meaning that medium suits basically have no chance at stealth with Gal Logis on the other side, if this goes through.
Scanning precision is at a good balance right now, but this one change will ruin stealth game entirely, for both scouts and mediums (scouts will need 2x complex to avoid 21dB scans).
Yeah I didn't actually do the Math myself on this one.
Assuming what you say is true then even more backing for my point. I actually tried out a fit With 3 complex dampeners on my Caldari logi yesterday, just to sort of mentally prepare myself. Then again, needing even more than 3 damps and you can definately toss the entire stealth game out the window, in that case I'd definately go tank and gank....
@ Rei.
I know, I'm glad I was on the defending team....
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