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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:58:00 -
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You can fire your weapon while cloaked?
I don't want scout to become FOTM!
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
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Absoliav
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:05:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:You can fire your weapon while cloaked? I don't want scout to become FOTM!
Relax, from what's been going around, shooting lowers the amount of time you have to stay cloaked, and the cloak also has a cooldown after being used, like vehicles and scanners, this leaves the user exposed if they abuse it's usage. |
Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:14:00 -
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Absoliav wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:You can fire your weapon while cloaked? I don't want scout to become FOTM! Relax, from what's been going around, shooting lowers the amount of time you have to stay cloaked, and the cloak also has a cooldown after being used, like vehicles and scanners, this leaves the user exposed if they abuse it's usage. Wait, where is this info coming from?
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:17:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Absoliav wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:You can fire your weapon while cloaked? I don't want scout to become FOTM! Relax, from what's been going around, shooting lowers the amount of time you have to stay cloaked, and the cloak also has a cooldown after being used, like vehicles and scanners, this leaves the user exposed if they abuse it's usage. Wait, where is this info coming from?
CCPs test server info
The Cal scout bonus is a reduction to the shooting cost while cloaked, and its description also mentions this.
Thus shooting reducing your cloak bar faster than doing nothing, not sure if its per shot or second or what, but this is just what was thrown onto the test server.
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Cal Scout Description
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:17:00 -
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Secondly why do we need more cloak threads
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Absoliav
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:22:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Secondly why do we need more cloak threads
Because not everyone knows about the test server stuff, some people are still in shock, others are in disbelief/just aren't aware. |
Criteria Shipment
Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:26:00 -
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Absoliav wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Secondly why do we need more cloak threads Because not everyone knows about the test server stuff, some people are still in shock, others are in disbelief/just aren't aware. It feels like spam
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:28:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:You can fire your weapon while cloaked? I don't want scout to become FOTM!
They have to be careful how they introduce this on other suits. Only dust has this weird FOTM thing. lol
But if I know my FPS, cloaking has yet to break a fps game.
Then again dust might go ahead and try to change that... lol |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:28:00 -
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It will be FotM and then everyone will cry and it will get nerfed and everyone will cry more and ask for a respec. Haven't any of you people learned how this works yet?
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:32:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Absoliav wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:You can fire your weapon while cloaked? I don't want scout to become FOTM! Relax, from what's been going around, shooting lowers the amount of time you have to stay cloaked, and the cloak also has a cooldown after being used, like vehicles and scanners, this leaves the user exposed if they abuse it's usage. Wait, where is this info coming from? CCPs test server info The Cal scout bonus is a reduction to the shooting cost while cloaked, and its description also mentions this. Thus shooting reducing your cloak bar faster than doing nothing, not sure if its per shot or second or what, but this is just what was thrown onto the test server. edit: Cal Scout Description I know they're just testing.
Just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
And this is not at all an indicator of what we'll be getting in the future and could change completely before we see it.
But I'm ALREADY SHITTING MYSELF WITH UNCONTROLLABLE TERROR at the idea of being able to shoot while cloaked.
That would literally be worse than when Planetside 2 allowed Infiltrators to carry shotguns with no cloaking or decloaking delay whatsoever.
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:36:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:The Cal scout bonus is a reduction to the shooting cost while cloaked, and its description also mentions this.
"Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level."
You read this as 5% reduction to cost of firing while cloaked, rather than cost of firing up the cloak?
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:41:00 -
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Shotgun+Scout+Cloak * 16 players = win |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:41:00 -
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1. Data posted on SiSi, as Eve Online players fully understand at this point after 10 years, is not final and therefore still subject to change.
2. Considering that the Executive Producer CCP Rouge is shaking up the office right now with a review of their departmental processes regarding Dust 514 development, I can easily foresee a lot of changes being made to those stats between now and deployment which will not be coming this month. Hell, it may not come next month.
3. We don't have any details on how the cloak will actually work.
Please stop jumping to conclusions.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:41:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:The Cal scout bonus is a reduction to the shooting cost while cloaked, and its description also mentions this. "Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level." You read this as 5% reduction to cost of firing while cloaked, rather than cost of firing up the cloak?
Shhh, leave them to their crystal ball. It's more funny when there is a lot more chaos.
I'd imagine using a cloaking device will have some sort of time period to keep it from being indefinite and will have a pre-charger or something. Caldari can jump into cloak faster where as Gallente have more reliable "stealth" while cloaked due to their profile reduction.
Then you have the Minmatar which will be ninja assassins. Yeah, that's right, ninja ninjas.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:45:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:They have to be careful how they introduce this on other suits. Only dust has this weird FOTM thing. lol
Crysis 3 had a completely overpowered shotgun at some point and *everyone* in that game runs with mobility enhancers.
Quote: But if I know my FPS, cloaking has yet to break a fps game.
Then again dust might go ahead and try to change that... lol
It really depends on how exactly cloaking works. The issue with this game is that you already have a hard time detecting snipers. I'm a sniper but I wish I had a position marker for a sniper that kills me. Might actually add some skill into sniping.
I really hope it will be a Crysis-like cloak - Lower sprinting speed, no fire, shimmer when you do high-profile activity. The energy drain shouldn't be dependant on movement, though, because the game's maps are on a bigger scale. |
Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:47:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:The Cal scout bonus is a reduction to the shooting cost while cloaked, and its description also mentions this. "Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level." You read this as 5% reduction to cost of firing while cloaked, rather than cost of firing up the cloak?
read the cal scout description, then reread the cal scout bonus, I first thought it was activation as well and was doing word doctor on the fact firing was used, then I read the description and came to this conclusion.
http://i.imgur.com/eEeKFxI.png
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I also understand things aren't final, but the description plus racial is a pretty good indication of how it is in the test server
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:56:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Surt gods end wrote:They have to be careful how they introduce this on other suits. Only dust has this weird FOTM thing. lol
Crysis 3 had a completely overpowered shotgun at some point and *everyone* in that game runs with mobility enhancers. Quote: But if I know my FPS, cloaking has yet to break a fps game.
Then again dust might go ahead and try to change that... lol
It really depends on how exactly cloaking works. The issue with this game is that you already have a hard time detecting snipers. I'm a sniper but I wish I had a position marker for a sniper that kills me. Might actually add some skill into sniping. I really hope it will be a Crysis-like cloak - Lower sprinting speed, no fire, shimmer when you do high-profile activity. The energy drain shouldn't be dependant on movement, though, because the game's maps are on a bigger scale.
Yeah. But saying a shotgun in a FPS game is OP is like saying the sun sets in the east. Shotguns always OP. add speed boost and yeah.. players are gonna rock that. lol
*sound familar...*
Yeah dude KZ4 has the shotty and speed boost combo. And tho they may be annoying in team death match, (tho air drones and turrets negate these speed demons pretty fast. drones can OHK if your not careful) they are kind of useless in other game modes, hence why you only really see em in TD. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:25:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Yeah. But saying a shotgun in a FPS game is OP is like saying the sun sets in the east. Shotguns always OP. add speed boost and yeah.. players are gonna rock that. lol
...The Dust shotguns are very weak compared to other guns. Normally I'm either sniper or shotgun, but shotgun in Dust disgusts me.
As for the Crysis example, the shotgun was good at medium ranges with the low-spread fire mode and killed anything in a direct confrontation. The game had very small levels with lots of terrain, so the effect was quite pronounced. Saying shotguns are overpowered by concept is ridiculous. It depends entirely on the specific game. A shotgun won't do you much good if the game doesn't have any terrain to hide with. |
Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:30:00 -
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Absoliav wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:You can fire your weapon while cloaked? I don't want scout to become FOTM! Relax, from what's been going around, shooting lowers the amount of time you have to stay cloaked, and the cloak also has a cooldown after being used, like vehicles and scanners, this leaves the user exposed if they abuse it's usage.
But we super awesome Amarrians get a bonus to the recharge delay of the cloak...expect maximum T_T over the Amarr scout once it is released.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.09 12:46:00 -
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a dev stated that shooting a sniper rifle will deplete the cloak in one shot, stop panicing about NOTHING. |
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