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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
285
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:18:00 -
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-Can you repair shields with a repair tool? -So you went complex shields and put in a mil but i still get 19 more hp by using a militia armor module -So you repair 30 shields a second? welp hows that gonna help you when your in a fight i just have to hit you with a bullet within 4 seconds and you will never repair -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor but hows that gonna help you when im just going to one hit your 500 shields with a scrambler rifle -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive -You run faster than me? Well that explains how you increase the distance between me and you by a foot every minute when we rush to an objective -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG...
EDIT: (Forgot the big one) Wouldn't you just love to stack damage mods and keep your tank up?Too bad unless you armor tank!!
Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3209
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:20:00 -
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Nevermind, you fixed up the error.
+1
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
69
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:23:00 -
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You can thank CCP and AA + Ttk
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
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Forum Warrior LV. 4 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1912
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:24:00 -
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Plates are OP.
Shield based suits with plates are super OP.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1510
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:30:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:-Can you repair 1shields with a repair tool? -Do people use repair tools? Nope. -So you repair 30 shields a second? Helps when your not in fight. And armor repair only takes of an insignificant amount of dps. And how about triage hives well shield suits can use them to. -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor? Well the scrambler rifle does high alpha to any suit doesn't matter if it's armor or shields... difference is if your shields gets 1 shot your still alive if my armor is 1 shot I am dead. -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive shields suits do this all the time! -deleted Doesnt make sense. -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius Flux doesn't 1shot Your suit. -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG... True And Enhanced Is To weak. Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... No A Million Burning nos Buff The Enhanced Modules That's All And Maybe Lower CPU And PG
(Forgot the big one)-áWouldn't you just love to stack damage mods and keep your tank up?Too bad unless you armor
Wouldn't you just love to stack armor plates and have decent shield and Armor HP? Your inluck because the Caldari suit is the one for you! Can top 400 shields and 400 armor with 2 damage mods!!! |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
461
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:31:00 -
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No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play.
Shields don't have to waste slots or pg/cpu compared to armored suits for hp repair This is true but militia modules are inefficient to use due to the amount of pg/cpu they take. One hit scr shots take skill. Get behind cover to let your shields recharge. Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) Can you clarify your 2nd to last point Once again run and gun suits. You get flux, you get out
Dust bunny! I prefer the term meta-gaming bad a** with a slight hint of the person Samuel L. Jackson wanted to be.
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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
286
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:32:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:-Can you repair 1shields with a repair tool? -Do people use repair tools? Nope. -So you repair 30 shields a second? Helps when your not in fight. And armor repair only takes of an insignificant amount of dps. And how about triage hives well shield suits can use them to. -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor? Well the scrambler rifle does high alpha to any suit doesn't matter if it's armor or shields... difference is if your shields gets 1 shot your still alive if my armor is 1 shot I am dead. -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive shields suits do this all the time! -deleted Doesnt make sense. -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius Flux doesn't 1shot Your suit. -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG... True And Enhanced Is To weak. Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... No A Million Burning nos Buff The Enhanced Modules That's All And Maybe Lower CPU And PG
Shield suits use triage nanos because they are forced to armor tank...
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1510
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:33:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:-Can you repair 1shields with a repair tool? -Do people use repair tools? Nope. -So you repair 30 shields a second? Helps when your not in fight. And armor repair only takes of an insignificant amount of dps. And how about triage hives well shield suits can use them to. -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor? Well the scrambler rifle does high alpha to any suit doesn't matter if it's armor or shields... difference is if your shields gets 1 shot your still alive if my armor is 1 shot I am dead. -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive shields suits do this all the time! -deleted Doesnt make sense. -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius Flux doesn't 1shot Your suit. -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG... True And Enhanced Is To weak. Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... No A Million Burning nos Buff The Enhanced Modules That's All And Maybe Lower CPU And PG Shield suits use triage nanos because they are forced to armor tank...
They armor tank because they and every other suits uses damage mods which need to be removed from the damn game. |
FrozenChaos
The Neutral Zone
28
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:35:00 -
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wow thx for listing all those...give all shield based suits 20% increase to speed and reduce armor based suit speed by 20% that kinda closes the gap lol |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
511
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:36:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit?
Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. |
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
461
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:42:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you.
I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits.
Dust bunny! I prefer the term meta-gaming bad a** with a slight hint of the person Samuel L. Jackson wanted to be.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1511
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:44:00 -
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FrozenChaos wrote:wow thx for listing all those...give all shield based suits 20% increase to speed and reduce armor based suit speed by 20% that kinda closes the gap lol
Lol shields suits are fine learn to use your suit. Fyi I use a minmatr suit shield tanked. |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
289
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:46:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits.
My Alt has gallante logi fit has close to or above 700 armor, reps like 18-19 armor per second. 2 complex dmg mods and an enhanced with a proto type rifle (of choice) and triage hives with adv scanner i think one has a basic rep tool nad basic medi pen. But both have proto triage hives. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
461
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:48:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits. My Alt has gallante logi fit has close to or above 700 armor, reps like 18-19 armor per second. 2 complex dmg mods and an enhanced with a proto type rifle (of choice) and triage hives with adv scanner i think one has a basic rep tool nad basic medi pen. But both have proto triage hives.
That is a logi with more pg/cpu. Instead of making shields OP. Why not balance the logi suits?
Dust bunny! I prefer the term meta-gaming bad a** with a slight hint of the person Samuel L. Jackson wanted to be.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:48:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:FrozenChaos wrote:wow thx for listing all those...give all shield based suits 20% increase to speed and reduce armor based suit speed by 20% that kinda closes the gap lol Lol shields suits are fine learn to use your suit. Fyi I use a minmatr suit shield tanked. no, they arent, enjoy dying faster than everyone else, 2-3 extenders and a energiser is ****
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:49:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits. thats filling 4 slots with extenders with no energiser
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
289
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:50:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits. My Alt has gallante logi fit has close to or above 700 armor, reps like 18-19 armor per second. 2 complex dmg mods and an enhanced with a proto type rifle (of choice) and triage hives with adv scanner i think one has a basic rep tool nad basic medi pen. But both have proto triage hives. That is a logi with more pg/cpu. Instead of making shields OP. Why not balance the logi suits?
But the suit isn't OP, It is just defensive and dmg mods are OP... Suits aren't OP, DMG MODS ARE!
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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
289
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:51:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits. thats filling 4 slots with extenders with no energiser
why use energizer when already getting 31.2 shields |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
273
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:53:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No.
I use the assault Ck.O. I believe it is just fine. It is meant for run and gun play. ...
Triage nanohives work on my assault Ck.O just fine. They help a lot when you have 371 armor hp ( stack armor plates on your suit ) ...
So you put an armour tank on a Caldari suit? Yeah. Try a pure shield tank. See how that works out for you. I have 571 shield hp on my proto. I do pure shield tank on some of my suits. thats filling 4 slots with extenders with no energiser why use energizer when already getting 31.2 shields because thats too low for a fast regen suit, 47 hp/s is better but not enough for my state ck.0
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5455
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:11:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:-Can you repair shields with a repair tool? -So you went complex shields and put in a mil but i still get 19 more hp by using a militia armor module -So you repair 30 shields a second? welp hows that gonna help you when your in a fight i just have to hit you with a bullet within 4 seconds and you will never repair -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor but hows that gonna help you when im just going to one hit your 500 shields with a scrambler rifle -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive -You run faster than me? Well that explains how you increase the distance between me and you by a foot every minute when we rush to an objective -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG...
EDIT: (Forgot the big one) Wouldn't you just love to stack damage mods and keep your tank up?Too bad unless you armor tank!!
CCP, if you don't believe me, I dare you to go find a proto Caldari Assault/logi and tell me how many of them a below 400 shields and above 300 armor, almost 90%. This should tell you that you fked something up.
Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... You guys don't get to ***** for another 2 months.
We Armour tankers suffered being inferior to you for at least chromosome and the first 3 months of uprising. Sure I want progress with this game so we all get a finished product.....but I want more than that children like you to suffer just that little bit longer for whining.....
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
275
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:im an *******, just because my thing was weak for awhile means the other thing must be weaker longer because i dont want any balance progres seriously shut the **** up. people like you make me sick. you people ruin the game.
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1490
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:29:00 -
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They scale weird Should be for extenders: 44hp 55hp 66hp
Then for regulators 15% 25% 35%
Energizers and rechargers are fine
Also, remove extender penalty to recharge delay.
Then make shield modules cost less PG and CPU.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
275
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:34:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:They scale weird Should be for extenders: 44hp 55hp 66hp
Then for regulators 25% 35% 45%
Energizers and rechargers are fine
Also, remove extender penalty to recharge delay.
Then make shield modules cost less PG and CPU. fixed regulaters, 2 would cut the cal assault bonus to a bearable 2 seconds
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5466
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Posted - 2014.01.09 03:02:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:True Adamance wrote:im an *******, just because my thing was weak for awhile means the other thing must be weaker longer because i dont want any balance progres seriously shut the **** up. people like you make me sick. you people ruin the game.
Lol just like when we two championed the HAV unit and.....ruined the game? Yup you happen to be one of us....remember the arguments you made about how tanks needed to be better cause swarms and forge guns were too good?
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2596
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Posted - 2014.01.09 03:32:00 -
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Um
WTF
I'm not going to tell you how to play, you should know how by now. But seriously, every shield extender I add is another 66 HP (a 75% increase) that naturally regenerates at 40 HP/s and has no speed penalty. If my suit wasn't so CPU starved I would main as a shield tanker. Also if my suit had more high slots.
They get to keep their low slots for range amplifiers, profile dampeners, armor reps, shield regulators, kincats, and cardiac regs. I am pretty jelly.
Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1513
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:-Can you repair shields with a repair tool? -So you went complex shields and put in a mil but i still get 19 more hp by using a militia armor module -So you repair 30 shields a second? welp hows that gonna help you when your in a fight i just have to hit you with a bullet within 4 seconds and you will never repair -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor but hows that gonna help you when im just going to one hit your 500 shields with a scrambler rifle -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive -You run faster than me? Well that explains how you increase the distance between me and you by a foot every minute when we rush to an objective -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG...
EDIT: (Forgot the big one) Wouldn't you just love to stack damage mods and keep your tank up?Too bad unless you armor tank!!
CCP, if you don't believe me, I dare you to go find a proto Caldari Assault/logi and tell me how many of them a below 400 shields and above 300 armor, almost 90%. This should tell you that you fked something up.
Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... You guys don't get to ***** for another 2 months. We Armour tankers suffered being inferior to you for at least chromosome and the first 3 months of uprising. Sure I want progress with this game so we all get a finished product.....but I want more than that children like you to suffer just that little bit longer for whining.....
More than just whining if they made shields vs armor like in EVE he would cry, in EVE higher shields means more bullets hit you imagine your hit box increasing as your shields go up! The problem with shields vs armor is damage mods aside from that just because an armor suit has 200 more HP doesn't mean it's better hell depending on the gun that 200 HP is only like 3 bullets of extra damage you can take, and that HP doesn't have an easy way to go up. |
Tectonic Fusion
949
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:51:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:-Can you repair 1shields with a repair tool? -Do people use repair tools? Nope. -So you repair 30 shields a second? Helps when your not in fight. And armor repair only takes of an insignificant amount of dps. And how about triage hives well shield suits can use them to. -So you got a rail rifle to take down my armor? Well the scrambler rifle does high alpha to any suit doesn't matter if it's armor or shields... difference is if your shields gets 1 shot your still alive if my armor is 1 shot I am dead. -Kinda pinned down? Well wouldn't it be nice if you could fight off your enemies by putting down a triage nano hive shields suits do this all the time! -deleted Doesnt make sense. -you got grenades to mess up my armor, well how ya gonna deal with a flux that's gonna stop your recharge for like 10 seconds and wipe all your shields away AND has huge radius Flux doesn't 1shot Your suit. -Kinda low on CPU and PG, that sucks your extenders take that much CPU and PG... True And Enhanced Is To weak. Like wtf CCP... buff shields especially the extenders... No A Million Burning nos Buff The Enhanced Modules That's All And Maybe Lower CPU And PG Shield suits use triage nanos because they are forced to armor tank... They armor tank because they and every other suits uses damage mods which need to be removed from the damn game. A glass cannon is fine...this is coming from someone who doesn't use damage mods. Just increase TTK, so you can survive and be able to use tactics. And remove the active scanner or change it...
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