And which systems would that be exactly? That is what I really would like to know personally and where exactly is the evidence for what you say?

Does your report also acknowledge the significant number of Intaki who oppose Ishukone and Caldari presence within their region of space? Or does it lump peaceful trade missions between Intaki Prime and High Security Gallente space as "border incursions?" Are the Megacorporations so afraid of competition that they're firing on unarmed merchant ships now?

Ishukone-Raata's deployment is not a direct response to the regular capsuleer activities in the region, but rather to the recent influx of GÇ£immortal mercenaries.GÇ¥ We have been observing their actions since their introduction. They have proven themselves to be exponentially more destructive than regular soldiers and do not carry any restrictions on that power within their areas of operation.

Add in the new role capsuleers are playing in bombarding these planets (many of which are inhabited, and it should be noted the Intaki have voiced several concerns against the use of Orbital Weapons against populated planets) and you can see why we are concerned with the safety of Ishukone-Raata assets, along with Ishukone's and/or the IntakiGÇÖs planetary interests. It must be noted that while planetary and orbital security will be our primary directive, Ishukone-Raata will not hesitate to engage any and all elements that wish to interfere with these operations as should be expected.

I expect you will shortly be moving on Gallente worlds in an attempt to auction them, given your history.

I expect you will shortly be moving on Gallente worlds in an attempt to auction them, given your history.

I still see no proof and no reason for the Gallente to attack them
And do not say I'm saying this because I'm Gallente because i'm only 1/4 intaki

Let us start with this bit of information:

1. Quote:

   Mordu signed a deal with the Intaki assembly, where they were auctioned the S&S franchise for the Intaki system. FDU members attacking Mordu forces in their legal mission in Intaki are therefore breaching federal law and stepping on a Federation signatory jurisdiction.

Prior to our announcement FDU troops did in fact attack the Intaki system, and execute all of the Mordu mercenaries on the ground.


2. Quote:

   Ishukone Corp is the legal holder of the Intaki S&S franchise. Attacking them is therefore attacking a Federation signatory member.

I believe our Executor summed it up well in his response to a very similar charge:

Mordu's Legion has a history of active opposition to the Gallente Federation, as well as the Caldari State, and is recognized by CONCORD as a potentially dangerous organization, even at the best of times. Any action taken against them on what is recognized as Gallente Sov (Which at the time of the actions in question, it was) is no more than a move to further secure the borders of the Federation against unlawful penetration.

Do not forget that, during the course of Federation infiltration of Caldari, the State was being controlled by a madman and a tyrant. Your own Megacorporation tried to have as little to do with Heth as possible, and were one of the first to call for his dismissal and elimination of the office of State Executor as a legitimate position within the State's hierarchy. Or did you forget your own history?

The Federation acted in her own defense, seeking to prevent another surprise assault on our borders and the raising of another "Shield" around a world so close to our home. This smacks of nothing more than an attempt to seize more Federation soil from its rightful owners: the Intaki. As previously stated, the Intaki government wishes to remain with the Federation, and to continue and expand trade between our worlds. Your actions seem to be nothing more than an attempt to stifle this, and replace it with trade from your Megacorporation, despite the fact that, at the present time, there is little to no significant Caldari or Ishukone military presence within Intaki space.

For the most part the Intaki want even less to do with the Federation than the Caldari do......

And before you comment on Heth, for good or ill, you must understand what kind of cultural shift his tenure as the leader of the State caused. That being a return to the traditionalist roots of meritocracy and megacorporate power. That alone is more than enough to have ensured his legacy.

Eitherway Heth has nothing to do with Ishukones actions, your attempts to bulrush and buzzword the credibility of the State is worthless.

I find your first point hard to believe, due to the Intaki having joined the Federation peacefully and willingly centuries ago, and currently participate actively in the Federation's power structure, most notably as politicians and diplomats to the other factions of New Eden. Before you go making outrageous claims, try finding support for them.

Second, I'm well aware of the cultural shift Tibus Heth represents for the Caldari. But I do not agree with your assertion that he has nothing to do with this discussion. His unwarranted invasion of Gallente Sov for the purposes of "reclaiming" Caldari Prime, his installation of a Titan in the Gallente home system of Luminaire, his usage of Gallente citizens on Caldari Prime as human shields for negotiating purposes, all are seen by my people as unnecessarily aggressive actions, bits of revenge taken for a war which was fought a century ago. This was the man who the Senate wanted to guard against with their "illegal" border incursions, no more noble than what Heth did to us, but much less destructive in nature.

My argument is that Heth made those actions necessary. I don't doubt his importance to the Caldari, but his outright warmongering attitude towards the Gallente cannot be overstated.

This farce of "securing" Intaki space is essentially amounting to actions which were taken by Gallente during a five year state of emergency, where our own homeworld and people were under the gun of a madman. I can't pretend that infiltrating Caldari space wasn't underhanded, but Ishukone should be reminded that the current political climate is much less tense than it was even six months ago. Making a militaristic move of this nature is a return to the outdated politics and brinkmanship I thought had been ousted along with Heth's Provist regime. I guess I was mistaken.

I find your first point hard to believe, due to the Intaki having joined the Federation peacefully and willingly centuries ago, and currently participate actively in the Federation's power structure, most notably as politicians and diplomats to the other factions of New Eden. Before you go making outrageous claims, try finding support for them.

I find your first point hard to believe, due to the Intaki having joined the Federation peacefully and willingly centuries ago, and currently participate actively in the Federation's power structure, most notably as politicians and diplomats to the other factions of New Eden. Before you go making outrageous claims, try finding support for them.

I felt like this needed an explanation, the rest of your argument I'll leave for someone else.

Most of the politicians and diplomats you speak of have mostly been born on other planets outside of Intaki or Placid in general, they most commonly come from Solitude. And as you said yourself, Intaki formed the Federation with the other races many centuries ago, things have changed quite a bit.

Things started going downhill for the Intaki planet and it's surrounding colonies shen the Caldari-Gallente war broke out, as many of the Intaki who supported the Caldari or were sympathetic to their cause were exiled. These exiled Intaki later formed Mordu's Legion and the Intaki Syndicate. The ones who weren't exiled had to keep quiet about their standing on the war.

Next thing happened when CONCORD was formed and security on different regions of space were formed. Most of Intaki and its colonies are now classified as lowsec, which let Serpentis and other pirates roam free with little repercussions, disrupting trade and steady supply of necessary supplies into the colonies.

Next thing was when the CEWPA was formed, letting capsuleer militias fight for the control of systems in Placid and Black Rise, Intaki and its colonies included. This made an already bad situation even worse, as not only these militas caused numerous civilian casualties and other problems withing the designated militia areas, they further disrupted trade and supply routes in lowsec Placid, and Intaki started having aid programs to secure a steady stream of necessary supplies into the planet.

There's also numerous socio-political issues Intaki struggle with, but from these alone you'd understand why the native Intaki are displeased, and there are a lot of them out there. And despite all this, the Federation has done little to aid the Intaki in their troubles, at times even making it worse, such as signing the CEWPA.

My corporation, the Intaki Liberation Front and my alliance Intaki Prosperity Initative focus on aiding these lowsec colonies, and actively worl towards seceding them from the Federation and establish an independent sovreignty. We may not speak for all the Intaki, but we do have significant support.

It is a mutually beneficial agreement that has helped both entities grow exponentially over the years.

Gods, I hope not. As I understand it, Intaki is an old, fully developed, well-ordered homeworld; exponential growth would be a problem.

Also, if Ishukone's growth in ... anything has been approaching infinity, I haven't heard.

Perhaps some specificity about what is growing thus? Otherwise, soldier, with respect, I like your organization, but ... perhaps a little lighter on the hyperbole?

Before the agreement, Intaki was resource poor, with almost no ability to defend itself from capsuleers, and naval forces. Ishukone was the poorest and most unstable of all of the Caldari Megacorporations with next to no political power left. Following the agreement, both entities were able to milk the other to stabilize their situations and come out of their hard times. These have not been completely mediated, especially in the case of the Intaki who now face State and Federal immortal soldiers on the ground as well. As such, the agreement is maintained and business continues.

It's certainly been good to see a relationship working out beneficially. Are you sure about the economic history, though? I'm not sure I'd have called Ishukone either "poor" or "unstable," as its time under Ottro Gariushi had just recently ended. Abrupt decapitation-by-Nyx-class-mothership does tend to cause chaos, and Ishukone's voice was fairly muted while Tibus Heth rose to primacy with little resistance, but Ishukone still had a first-rate reputation and a strong product line.

... I'm not really quibbling about the whole business being mutually beneficial, I'm just a little puzzled about how much you're making of it.

It's good. It works. Pretty much everybody seems satisfied but the pirate factions and the Federation. Isn't that enough?

The notion of Ishukone having been 'poor' is in relation to the other Megacorporations at the time.

And the fact that it is good and working is why we are doing what we are doing. Originally Mordu's Legion were the ones contracted to protect the surface of Intaki, but since their removal, and the decline of FDU forces (it goes without saying that they would deny regular State Protectorate forces as well) by the Intaki themselves, Ishukone and thus I-RED is tasked with filling the void. Not doing so would be to outright abandon the agreement made between our people. While this would financially wreck havoc on Ishukone's financial base, it would harm the Intaki significantly more.

I am confused right now because you see I'm not the guy who deals with policial part of new edan so who is attacking? I know intaki are the defenders in the case and I want to see intaki as it's own "faction" and all but I barely know what I'm talking about because I thought I-RED was attacking so can someone help me here without any critism?

I still find it difficult to believe the Intaki people would decide that the Ishukone Irregulars are preferred to, say, Ishukone Watch, an organization actually accountable to the Megacorporation. Or, rather, Federal Marines, soldiers fighting for the government to whom the Intaki people currently fall under.

This has already been addressed. I-RED is being deployed because it is a capsuleer/immortal soldier threat, not a regular soldier/navy threat. Also, as was previously stated as well, the Intaki refused the protection of FDU forces in favor of their prior agreement with Ishukone. All of this is publicly documented.

And if, say, the Intaki people wanted additional protection and requested a group affiliated with Gallente interests to step in as well, you'd, what exactly? Allow them to peacefully set up shop in the system?

Well, that was all very interesting to hear and to say it on a personal level, I do see I-RED's reason for taking it's position in this.

So I just say; noted.

I'll put this through to the comrades in the Special Tasks Group and along with it remind them to watch their aim when deploying on a Intaki world the next time.

At least I will do, but that's what I always do if possible.

But I can't and I am not going to refuse a contract on Intaki worlds issued by the Federal Marines.
Not as long State Peacekeepers do the same.

Just to make myself clear.