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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2014.01.08 17:19:00 -
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          It occurred to me that it isn't entirely clear what a scout is. While I prefer to use it as a minimal-combat support unit, other people seem to look at it as a guerrilla fighter.
  Why don't we just split these roles into 2 different dropsuits?
  Let's simply call them the "scout dropsuit" and "guerrilla dropsuit"
  Notable things about the new scout:
 
 -  1 light weapon slot
 -  2 equipment slots
 -  higher stamina and stamina regen
 -  obviously higher PG/CPU
 -  Universal skill improves hacking speed
 -  Racial skills improve use of equipment such as drop uplinks
 
 
  Notable things about the new guerrilla
 
 -  Higher movement and sprint speed
 -  Better scan-related stats
 -  More eHP
 -  Universal skill lowers signature profile
 -  Racial skills improve use of "scout weapons" such as shotguns
 
 
  What does everyone think?
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          Reav Hannari 
          Red Rock Outriders
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        Posted - 2014.01.08 17:30:00 -
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          I like. The first is like the old Type-II and B-Series and I'm wondering if that is what the Amarr and Caldari will be. A Scout with scanner and uplinks would make a great pathfinder. I like your Guerrilla name better than what I currently call my Assassin suits.
 // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana 
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          Aero Yassavi 
          Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2014.01.08 17:34:00 -
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          Makes sense and I definitely agree there are those who want to use the scout for sneaky infiltration and those who want to use it as a fast assault suit. Personally, I always thought the scout suit was more aimed at the former and thus it never made much sense to me why it had two weapons since you'd try to be avoiding combat in most situations. That's why the old Scout Type-II was my favorite.
  But people like the fast assault guerrilla style play, so making it two separate roles would definitely work in my opinion.
 It's a bird!  
It's a plane!  
No, it's Super Amarr! 
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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2014.01.08 17:37:00 -
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          Reav Hannari wrote:I like. The first is like the old Type-II and B-Series and I'm wondering if that is what the Amarr and Caldari will be. A Scout with scanner and uplinks would make a great pathfinder. I like your Guerrilla name better than what I currently call my Assassin suits.   The type 2 didn't make much sense to me before- it was armor tanked, yet the melee damage was super high.
  Those things don't fit together.
 We used to have a time machine 
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          Reav Hannari 
          Red Rock Outriders
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        Posted - 2014.01.08 17:40:00 -
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          Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:I like. The first is like the old Type-II and B-Series and I'm wondering if that is what the Amarr and Caldari will be. A Scout with scanner and uplinks would make a great pathfinder. I like your Guerrilla name better than what I currently call my Assassin suits.  The type 2 didn't make much sense to me before- it was armor tanked, yet the melee damage was super high. Those things don't fit together.  
  They had one scout so they crammed everything into two variants of it. I think of the Type II has sacrificing a sidearm to carry another piece of equipment. Other characteristics come from racial preferences.
 // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana 
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          Goric Rumis 
          Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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        Posted - 2014.01.09 18:45:00 -
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          Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It occurred to me that it isn't entirely clear what a scout is. While I prefer to use it as a minimal-combat support unit, other people seem to look at it as a guerrilla fighter. Why don't we just split these roles into 2 different dropsuits? Let's simply call them the "scout dropsuit" and "guerrilla dropsuit" Notable things about the new scout: 
 -  1 light weapon slot
 -  2 equipment slots
 -  higher stamina and stamina regen
 -  obviously higher PG/CPU
 -  Universal skill improves hacking speed
 -  Racial skills improve use of equipment such as drop uplinks
 
 Notable things about the new guerrilla 
 -  Higher movement and sprint speed
 -  Better scan-related stats
 -  More eHP
 -  Universal skill lowers signature profile
 -  Racial skills improve use of "scout weapons" such as shotguns
 
 What does everyone think?   Just realized I never replied to this and I think it deserves a bump. I had a very similar idea but couldn't think of what to call the second suit. "Guerrilla" is the perfect name. And with the cloaks coming, it would be extremely useful to have a Scout suit with two equipment slots: one for the cloak, one for an uplink or a scanner.
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          BL4CKST4R 
          WarRavens League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2014.01.09 18:47:00 -
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          Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It occurred to me that it isn't entirely clear what a scout is. While I prefer to use it as a minimal-combat support unit, other people seem to look at it as a guerrilla fighter. Why don't we just split these roles into 2 different dropsuits? Let's simply call them the "scout dropsuit" and "guerrilla dropsuit" Notable things about the new scout: 
 -  1 light weapon slot
 -  2 equipment slots
 -  higher stamina and stamina regen
 -  obviously higher PG/CPU
 -  Universal skill improves hacking speed
 -  Racial skills improve use of equipment such as drop uplinks
 
 Notable things about the new guerrilla 
 -  Higher movement and sprint speed
 -  Better scan-related stats
 -  More eHP
 -  Universal skill lowers signature profile
 -  Racial skills improve use of "scout weapons" such as shotguns
 
 What does everyone think?  
  And CQC weapons!!!! 
  I like this idea though, I started using my scout (basic) as a stealth fighter and hacker. I got such a successful experience my favorite suit is the scout. I use my Minmatar logistics the same way but for a slower tanker scout. I love it | 
      
      
      
          
          R F Gyro 
          Clones 4u
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        Posted - 2014.01.09 19:21:00 -
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          Yep, like it.
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          Killar-12 
          The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
  1976
  
          
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        Posted - 2014.01.09 19:39:00 -
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          I like.
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