DUST Search - my suggested fix for pc locking...

Ares 514 wrote:

pdiddy anfama wrote:

Mr Machine Guns wrote:

Ares 514 wrote:

Mr Machine Guns wrote:

heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc

and make clone packs 150 clones

I would add stop the passive ISK to the list.

The main reason to get into PC is to be able to get district and make isk right so why would we get rid of that completely, if I'm reading this right no isk for owing districts?

edit: pdiddy are you a director in KEQ

The corp would still get isk for owning the district after a successful defense or if you didn't get attacked. I don't know but yes I still say a corp gets isk for owning a district. That's why posted my idea.. I think as far as district ownership my idea is great, but the reward to the corp for owning it needs to be discussed.

Yes I am a director. Just recruiting roles though.

IMO you do PC to pit yourself against other corps (and their many ringers in some cases). It's about owning something. There should really be no passive ISK IMO. You should get lots of ISK for winning PC battles since it gets costly on the troops using the good gear. You could have some much reduced ISK payout to the corp but it should be based off clones killed in PC battles, thereby encouraging actual fighting.

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pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:16:00 - [1] - Quote Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... District is always open timers open every day at same time (timers cannot be changed)... every district has a different open hour (for example 2:00 then the next district 3:00 and so on and so on.)... every district has 200 clones defense and clone packs are 150 clones ... There is only one chance to defend district ... If there is a successful defense then owning corp receives isk payout ... This will lead to every corp having a chance to own a district at their best time... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1696720#post1696720 CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:27:00 - [2] - Quote Corps will be active in PC and you can only hold what you could field for that timer... CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Skittles McDuckett Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 229	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:29:00 - [3] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... District is always open timers open every day at same time (timers cannot be changed)... every district has a different open hour (for example 2:00 then the next district 3:00 and so on and so on.)... every district has 200 clones defense and clone packs are 150 clones ... There is only one chance to defend district ... If there is a successful defense then owning corp receives isk payout ... This will lead to every corp having a chance to own a district at their best time... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1696720#post1696720 No, no and no. Read what you just wrote. This destroys pc. There is a simple fix. Waiting for development to come to their senses and post it. I don't work for free, the fix is simple. Skittles McDuckett, DDB director - TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:31:00 - [4] - Quote Skittles McDuckett wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... District is always open timers open every day at same time (timers cannot be changed)... every district has a different open hour (for example 2:00 then the next district 3:00 and so on and so on.)... every district has 200 clones defense and clone packs are 150 clones ... There is only one chance to defend district ... If there is a successful defense then owning corp receives isk payout ... This will lead to every corp having a chance to own a district at their best time... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1696720#post1696720 No, no and no. Read what you just wrote. This destroys pc. There is a simple fix. Waiting for development to come to their senses and post it. I don't work for free, the fix is simple. How does this destroy pc??? There would be multiple districts at different times and some at the same time. There is no ability to lock. How does this destroy pc?? Explain.. So typical doesn't give an explanation when he says it will break it. CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Skittles McDuckett Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 229	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:35:00 - [5] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... District is always open timers open every day at same time (timers cannot be changed)... every district has a different open hour (for example 2:00 then the next district 3:00 and so on and so on.)... every district has 200 clones defense and clone packs are 150 clones ... There is only one chance to defend district ... If there is a successful defense then owning corp receives isk payout ... This will lead to every corp having a chance to own a district at their best time... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1696720#post1696720 No, no and no. Read what you just wrote. This destroys pc. There is a simple fix. Waiting for development to come to their senses and post it. I don't work for free, the fix is simple. How does this destroy pc??? There would be multiple districts at different times and some at the same time. There is no ability to lock. How does this destroy pc?? Explain.. 1. Only one chance to defend. I understand a lot of us PC players are no lifers, but we cannot no life 7 days a week. sometimes we put up a weak team knowing that we can just finish the defense 24 hours later. 2. The even timer distribution would rob people that want to play on popular timers and reward those that played on off timers. 3. Would negate the choice of infrastructure. Making PC much more boring, couldn't choose the socket on your map and would lose benefits of different infrastructure types. Skittles McDuckett, DDB director - TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!
Skittles McDuckett Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 229	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:37:00 - [6] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... District is always open timers open every day at same time (timers cannot be changed)... every district has a different open hour (for example 2:00 then the next district 3:00 and so on and so on.)... every district has 200 clones defense and clone packs are 150 clones ... There is only one chance to defend district ... If there is a successful defense then owning corp receives isk payout ... This will lead to every corp having a chance to own a district at their best time... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1696720#post1696720 No, no and no. Read what you just wrote. This destroys pc. There is a simple fix. Waiting for development to come to their senses and post it. I don't work for free, the fix is simple. How does this destroy pc??? There would be multiple districts at different times and some at the same time. There is no ability to lock. How does this destroy pc?? Explain.. So typical doesn't give an explanation when he says it will break it. I know the fixes, I just want the devs to come to the correct conclusion so I can decide if this game is worth continued play. Skittles McDuckett, DDB director - TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:42:00 - [7] - Quote Skittles McDuckett wrote: [quote=pdiddy anfama][quote=Skittles McDuckett][quote=pdiddy anfama]Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... 1. Only one chance to defend. I understand a lot of us PC players are no lifers, but we cannot no life 7 days a week. sometimes we put up a weak team knowing that we can just finish the defense 24 hours later. 2. The even timer distribution would rob people that want to play on popular timers and reward those that played on off timers. 3. Would negate the choice of infrastructure. Making PC much more boring, couldn't choose the socket on your map and would lose benefits of different infrastructure types. 1. The timer would still be on a 48 hour rotation. It just remains open and unable to be locked (physical people have to be attacking by deployed people if people are not in by 1 min before battle starts district opens immediately to be able to be attacked) 2. every district has a different timer that is set for that district (for example klingt 9 dist 2 open every 2 days at 2:00) 3. I said nothing about changing the map or infrastructure.. keep the maps the same... CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:46:00 - [8] - Quote Skittles McDuckett wrote: [quote=pdiddy anfama][quote=Skittles McDuckett][quote=pdiddy anfama] I know the fixes, I just want the devs to come to the correct conclusion so I can decide if this game is worth continued play. Help them.. Wants them to fix it, but doesn't want to help them LMAO... CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Skittles McDuckett Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 229	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:14:00 - [9] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: [quote=pdiddy anfama][quote=Skittles McDuckett][quote=pdiddy anfama]Here's my suggested fix... treat it similar to fac war... 1. Only one chance to defend. I understand a lot of us PC players are no lifers, but we cannot no life 7 days a week. sometimes we put up a weak team knowing that we can just finish the defense 24 hours later. 2. The even timer distribution would rob people that want to play on popular timers and reward those that played on off timers. 3. Would negate the choice of infrastructure. Making PC much more boring, couldn't choose the socket on your map and would lose benefits of different infrastructure types. 1. The timer would still be on a 48 hour rotation. It just remains open and unable to be locked (physical people have to be attacking by deployed people if people are not in by 1 min before battle starts district opens immediately to be able to be attacked) 2. every district has a different timer that is set for that district (for example klingt 9 dist 2 open every 2 days at 2:00) 3. I said nothing about changing the map or infrastructure.. keep the maps the same... 1. No. 2. No. 3. No. Please take the time to read and understand my post. Skittles McDuckett, DDB director - TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!
Skittles McDuckett Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 229	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:18:00 - [10] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: [quote=pdiddy anfama][quote=Skittles McDuckett][quote=pdiddy anfama] I know the fixes, I just want the devs to come to the correct conclusion so I can decide if this game is worth continued play. Help them.. Wants them to fix it, but doesn't want to help them LMAO... I have offered to help them. Please check the original thread. You spawned a new thread for no reason. Skittles McDuckett, DDB director - TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!

pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:32:00 - [11] - Quote to Skilttles Cry.. Cry ... I don't get what I want so screw all other ideas. CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Skittles McDuckett Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 230	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:03:00 - [12] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: to Skilttles Cry.. Cry ... I don't get what I want so screw all other ideas. Sorry, your proposed fixes destroy the equalizing aspects incorporated into pc. There is a much simpler fix. Skittles McDuckett, DDB director - TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:24:00 - [13] - Quote Oh! I know why you don't want only one chance to defend Skittles.... It doesn't give you a chance to call in Ancient Exiles or Team Players as ringers to defend your district... CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:30:00 - [14] - Quote The problem with your suggestion Skittles is no one can fight with the tactic of attrition.. Corps get tired then get friendly corps or no name corps to lock when they get tired of fighting. My suggestion always ensures a battle if someone wants to fight. CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 244	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:46:00 - [15] - Quote Ignore skittles, arguing with him is pointless. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2490	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:21:00 - [16] - Quote I'd like to see the districts attack able during a 16 hour window everyday. Leaving a corp able to set a 8 hour "locked" state for downtime. I think it would create scenarios where you would see daily battles on districts. It would also make it more reasonable that a core group of 30 guys couldn't hold huge chunks of land. It would be relative to what you could defend and it wouldn't give you 24-48hours to prepare. I think it would make PC awesome. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 243	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:30:00 - [17] - Quote heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 245	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:39:00 - [18] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones I would add stop the passive ISK to the list. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 97	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:43:00 - [19] - Quote ^ this is what I am talking about... Some healthy discussion not one person's opinion... CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 243	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:48:00 - [20] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones I would add stop the passive ISK to the list. The main reason to get into PC is to be able to get district and make isk right so why would we get rid of that completely, if I'm reading this right no isk for owing districts? edit: pdiddy are you a director in KEQ

pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 98	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:59:00 - [21] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones I would add stop the passive ISK to the list. The main reason to get into PC is to be able to get district and make isk right so why would we get rid of that completely, if I'm reading this right no isk for owing districts? edit: pdiddy are you a director in KEQ The corp would still get isk for owning the district after a successful defense or if you didn't get attacked. I don't know but yes I still say a corp gets isk for owning a district. That's why posted my idea.. I think as far as district ownership my idea is great, but the reward to the corp for owning it needs to be discussed. Yes I am a director. Just recruiting roles though. CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 243	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:05:00 - [22] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones I would add stop the passive ISK to the list. The main reason to get into PC is to be able to get district and make isk right so why would we get rid of that completely, if I'm reading this right no isk for owing districts? edit: pdiddy are you a director in KEQ The corp would still get isk for owning the district after a successful defense or if you didn't get attacked. I don't know but yes I still say a corp gets isk for owning a district. That's why posted my idea.. I think as far as district ownership my idea is great, but the reward to the corp for owning it needs to be discussed. Yes I am a director. Just recruiting roles though. ok good I'm going to be sending you mail in game
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 245	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:06:00 - [23] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones I would add stop the passive ISK to the list. The main reason to get into PC is to be able to get district and make isk right so why would we get rid of that completely, if I'm reading this right no isk for owing districts? edit: pdiddy are you a director in KEQ The corp would still get isk for owning the district after a successful defense or if you didn't get attacked. I don't know but yes I still say a corp gets isk for owning a district. That's why posted my idea.. I think as far as district ownership my idea is great, but the reward to the corp for owning it needs to be discussed. Yes I am a director. Just recruiting roles though. IMO you do PC to pit yourself against other corps (and their many ringers in some cases). It's about owning something. There should really be no passive ISK IMO. You should get lots of ISK for winning PC battles since it gets costly on the troops using the good gear. You could have some much reduced ISK payout to the corp but it should be based off clones killed in PC battles, thereby encouraging actual fighting. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 243	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:17:00 - [24] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: heres how you fix pc fix the lag issues,locking districts problem and open up more districts so more corps can get involved in pc and make clone packs 150 clones I would add stop the passive ISK to the list. The main reason to get into PC is to be able to get district and make isk right so why would we get rid of that completely, if I'm reading this right no isk for owing districts? edit: pdiddy are you a director in KEQ The corp would still get isk for owning the district after a successful defense or if you didn't get attacked. I don't know but yes I still say a corp gets isk for owning a district. That's why posted my idea.. I think as far as district ownership my idea is great, but the reward to the corp for owning it needs to be discussed. Yes I am a director. Just recruiting roles though. IMO you do PC to pit yourself against other corps (and their many ringers in some cases). It's about owning something. There should really be no passive ISK IMO. You should get lots of ISK for winning PC battles since it gets costly on the troops using the good gear. You could have some much reduced ISK payout to the corp but it should be based off clones killed in PC battles, thereby encouraging actual fighting. i just think if you get rid of district earning isk would it make corp less likely to get into pc
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 246	Posted - 2014.01.08 20:25:00 - [25] - Quote ISK earned on each PC battle is incentive enough I believe (i'd argue put it back to what it was pre the last reduction). Remember we want to compete with each other, right now the rewards goes to those who fight the least and just earn passive ISK. This way each corp needs enough districts to do as many PC battles as they are able and their is no incentive to sit idle in PC such as their is currently. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 198	Posted - 2014.01.08 23:10:00 - [26] - Quote If the goal is competition, why allow other corps to ring?
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 115	Posted - 2014.01.09 09:49:00 - [27] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: If the goal is competition, why allow other corps to ring? because some corps would be out of the competition and have to go back to pubs without the ringers. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 914	Posted - 2014.01.09 14:58:00 - [28] - Quote No the easy fix is to not refund ISK for clone packs, if there is a server error or crash that deletes, cancels, or crashes a PC match the corps can file a ticket, CCP should be able to check it and see if it really didn't happen or if it was no showed. CCP you're welcome. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2498	Posted - 2014.01.10 02:10:00 - [29] - Quote No passive ISK but .... - successful defenses increase a payout multiplier - successful attacks have a 2x multiplier - successful,multi attack district flips increasing exponentially along the way. - clone sales from battles go to the corp - payouts for mercs need to be in the form of bonuses for performance. I think some form of that makes PC fun and it leads to constant activity in space Eve side. I ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 107	Posted - 2014.01.10 15:33:00 - [30] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: [quote=pdiddy anfama][quote=Mr Machine Guns][quote=Ares 514][quote=Mr Machine Guns] ok good I'm going to be sending you mail in game Sorry, but I can't message you in game right now, but all directors agree Nyain San can go fxxk themselves on the district swap... I guess it is because you are aligned with the enemy. Maybe if you weren't aligned with known glitchers it would be different. CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops



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