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Ankbar Latrommi
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:44:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:@Fox, he meant there needs to be something like a Gallente Mass Driver, or a Caldari Shotgun, so that you can have different weapons on different suits without gimping yourself. Personally, that limitation makes it much better. Being able to fit any weapon on any Commando and STILL have that bonus would make choice of race completely obsolete. Get a Caldari, get a Shotgun, no reason to go Gallente. Get a Gallente, get a G-Sniper RIfle, no reason to go Caldari. See what I'm saying here?
That's how I heard the OP. And I'm completely against it. One doesn't complain because the Drake is useless with lazors or that a shield-tanked Prophecy dies too fast. The races have their pros & cons and it should remain so. If you want to run shotguns and you picked Caldari, then you'll eventually need to spend the SP skiling into the right suits and weapons. Maybe the sprint to lvl 5 will slow down too, make folks choose between flexibility or specialization(while their char is still young-ish.)
And to my knowledge, Gallie ships are armour tanked, not hybrid tanked. If anything they have the strongest structure efp, and we all know real men(tm) hull tank.
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:07:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:They're Dual-Tanked AND have the most Hull. The Algos, for example, has 5 highs and 3 lows. The Vexor is 5/5/5, and just generally don't LEAN towards Armor Tanking on most of their ships However, i'm not going to say that they don't have Armor Tanking ships. It's just that most of their ships are either dual-tanked or slightly leaning towards shield, but not as heavily as Caldari.
Really?? I have never, never seen a dual-tank Gallie ship. The Algos is a bit too new for me, but the others I'm more familiar with. Lows get tank and magnet fields and/or TE for dps, and mids get mwd/ab, point, web, and maybe ewar. Where are some fits you've seen with dual tank, like on kb or such? (I don't mean to expose your Eve Online alliance, I just want to see the fits.) I took a quick look at fits on battleclinic, and every random one I brought up was like what I described.
makes me want to whip out efit and build me a dual tank brutix. :D
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:09:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Fair enough you don't have to agree with me, but if there were to be 4 shotguns the gallante would be the best, but for people who play as a different race the other shotguns will have their perks to.
Okay, I can accept that. I think I'd like it even more if they did, for example, a 'shotgun' for the Amarr which used laser technology in an unconventional way. That would explain their lesser stats, and stay within the tech strengths of the races.
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:30:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:Artificer Ghost wrote:Gallente: Bonus to ALL E-War Equipment (Active Scanner, and the SoonTM HUD Jammer, and Webifier) I feel like my first post here is being forgotten...
I don't know about all the others, but I'm not a fan of this. I prefer the Eve Online way in which each race has an ewar they specialize.
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Posted - 2014.01.08 17:22:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:@Fox, I stand corrected then. I'm not familiar with what the Minmatar Logistics ships do, I just assumed that they mostly repaired armor. I should really get into the other races once I get my Battleships. I think Caldari is next. Either that or Minmatar, but I'm not a fan of speed tanking in EVE (Dat MWD doe).
As for the dual-tanking, I guess it's Armor then. I just always thought that because of the balanced based stats and the balanced slot count... I didn't really consider that the Med Slot count was for E-War equipment.
The Minnie are shield and speed tanked (in space), the Caldari only shield, and the Gallie and Amarr (Victor!) are armour tankers. Their logi's have shield/armour bonuses lined up with that. Did you start with Gallente?
The balanced slot layout does indeed allow for tanking either way, but almost no one dual tanks. Maybe bait or cyno ships. The reason being you're always giving up something useful like dps or ewar or speed. The Minmatar used to be the most common even slotted ships, but maybe not now so much.
If you are doing PvE, Caldari is a good call. If you're going PvP, I'd choose a different race. Not that Caldari can't do PvP, far from it, but it takes a bit more intentionality. And missile skills are only useful for missiles, whereas all turret skills are useful whether you do hybrids, lasers, or projectiles. The Tengu (Caldari T3 Strat Cruiser) is pretty B.A., but that's a long way off for a new character.
I highly suggest Jester's Trek for a blog with good info and help articles.
Sorry for being a bit off-topic--we still don't have a DustGate and there's no way I am waiting to get home to write this nor am I persevering through typing all this out on a gamepad.
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