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I-Shayz-I I-----I 1821	Posted - 2014.01.08 12:41:00 - [1] - Quote I know a lot of people will be upset about the hacking bonus being lost for minmatar logi...what if it became "minmatar logistics proficiency"? And then we could add other passive skill bonuses to dropsuits, like the minmatar assault having a speed bonus for its preficiency. Baiscally passives to the suits and not to items equipped onto the suits, since the new bonuses are mostly item based. ? Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 726	Posted - 2014.01.08 12:49:00 - [2] - Quote Sounds good to me. +1 Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 158	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:22:00 - [3] - Quote I would be okay with this
Lucifalic Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 182	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:27:00 - [4] - Quote Sounds like something I could really sink my sp into
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 363	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:30:00 - [5] - Quote I like any idea that gets me my hacking bonus back without losing a low YouTube 30D Recruiting
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 150	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:34:00 - [6] - Quote This would actually make suits specialized. I would suggest making the skills for suits lower on their multiplier. Yet, have the proficiency skills be 6x-8x instead.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1602	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:36:00 - [7] - Quote i don't believe they can do this due to their tagging system. i remember similar suggestions awhile back being shot down because of a garbage tag system that was never explained.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1266	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:39:00 - [8] - Quote It would be cool, but stacking a lot of bonus in 1 kind of suit is not good. I would give a different bonus to the basic frame, then this bonus would pass to the both the specialistic frames. For example, minmatar medium frame should have a bonus on hacking, i can say 3% per level, if you have lvl.5, it's a 15%, it's not 25%, but still good. Then you will have the 15% on both assault and logi. "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 795	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:48:00 - [9] - Quote calisk galern wrote: i don't believe they can do this due to their tagging system. i remember similar suggestions awhile back being shot down because of a garbage tag system that was never explained. The existence of equipment specific bonuses is proof that this has (probably) been fixed - that was the reason they didn't exist before And +1, as long as the proficiency bonuses are 'weaker' than the main suit bonuses - i.e. a small speed bonus for Min Assault Prof is weaker than the proposed main damage bonus
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2449	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:08:00 - [10] - Quote Please go add your suggest racial suit specialization skills to my dropsuit tiericide request thread. I'd love to see my hacking bonus return. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1696858#post1696858 // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana

I-Shayz-I I-----I 1832	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:40:00 - [11] - Quote shaman oga wrote: It would be cool, but stacking a lot of bonus in 1 kind of suit is not good. I would give a different bonus to the basic frame, then this bonus would pass to the both the specialistic frames. For example, minmatar medium frame should have a bonus on hacking, i can say 3% per level, if you have lvl.5, it's a 15%, it's not 25%, but still good. Then you will have the 15% on both assault and logi. This isn't a bad idea either, I'll add it to the OP. The frames should get some love too. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7915	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:44:00 - [12] - Quote I hate having more SP sinks, and I never thought the hacking bonus belongs on a logi (would fit more on the scout), but this kind of thing would be necessary for me if CCP goes through with removing the Amarr assault's laser weapon heat reduction bonus for a stupid armor repair bonus. I support this if it means the Amarr assault's proficiency bonus can be heat buildup reduction for laser weapons. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3196	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:45:00 - [13] - Quote This is a good idea, but what if we just made these old bonuses into new skills that are seperate from the suit itself? Though having two skills that both give +5% hacking speed per level would be a bit awkward. Just my 0.02 ISK CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1834	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:56:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: This is a good idea, but what if we just made these old bonuses into new skills that are seperate from the suit itself? Though having two skills that both give +5% hacking speed per level would be a bit awkward. Just my 0.02 ISK Then it wouldn't be suit specialization really. The idea here is to keep some of the cool role bonuses that some suits get right now in the game for those specific suits. If it was a bunch of separate skills things would just become a disaster unless you could only skill into one of them. For instance, having a heavy with the hacking bonus, and the amarr laser bonus, and something else... If you were worried about sp cost, I'd say it would be just the same as weapon proficiency or any of the current passive bonuses we have for all dropsuits (like the normal hacking bonus or the pg/cpu bonuses). level 3 is easy to get into, but level 5 takes some dedication. And they don't have to be the same bonuses either, just as long as they keep the cool, unique ones. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5411	Posted - 2014.01.08 16:56:00 - [15] - Quote BAD idea. We do NOT need to increase the gap between new and old players even more. Basic suits are already bad for being the same as assault suits, but with no bonuses, and still cost more. Minmatar Logi bonus should have never existed in the first place, that was a scout bonus. Logis are currently going through the QQ stage since they discovered they will no longer be the one man army machines of death. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1835	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:16:00 - [16] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Logis are currently going through the QQ stage since they discovered they will no longer be the one man army machines of death. I can't wait for my core focused repair tool to heal for 220 hp/s :D Triage will be at 90 Proto will be at like 110 with two beams Oh, and then a 50% increase to range means I'll be healing 30-50 meters away. I could effectively sit on top of a small structure and heal people fighting on the ground. As for the core focused, the extra 5 meters will remove the only downside to the equipment. The extra armor that assaults will be getting, and the damage reduction on heavies will mean that I can keep more people alive simply by keeping the beam on them, and 220 means I can heal them up and get rewards even faster. The loss of the passive armor repair isn't too much of an issue for me since the extra reduction in cpu/pg to my equipment will actually let me run my healing hives along with a decent repair tool, while still having the same module setup. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1871	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:17:00 - [17] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I know a lot of people will be upset about the hacking bonus being lost for minmatar logi...what if it became "minmatar logistics proficiency"? And then we could add other passive skill bonuses to dropsuits, like the minmatar assault having a speed bonus for its proficiency. Baiscally passives to the suits and not more bonuses to items equipped onto the suits, since the new bonuses are mostly item based. ? Another idea would be to put the more wanted bonus on the light/medium/heavy frame suit...so instead of creating a separate skill, you could get the bonus from the frame suit that's supposed to be something in between logi and assault. Just tie it to the skill book for the basic unspecialized suits. Then there would be a reason to skill past level 3. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1320	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:24:00 - [18] - Quote Actually if you look at the most recent data released by CCP on vehicle skills, you'll see that they're tentatively planning to add a "Race Advanced Operation" skill which offers an additional skill to train which stacks another bonus on top of the racial bonus. Keep in mind these are just blank entries so there is no way to know for sure if they still intend to go down this path. http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65451/1/skill.jpg ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4473	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:31:00 - [19] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Actually if you look at the most recent data released by CCP on vehicle skills, you'll see that they're tentatively planning to add a "Race Advanced Operation" skill which offers an additional skill to train which stacks another bonus on top of the racial bonus. Keep in mind these are just blank entries so there is no way to know for sure if they still intend to go down this path. http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65451/1/skill.jpg Which is pretty much my idea for this flow chat I did that reworks the Dropsuit Command skill tree. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1693182 It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1454	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:14:00 - [20] - Quote I like it - it's like a skill based sidegrade, provided you had already invested in a base proficiency for the suit. I support SP rollover.

Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 154	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:25:00 - [21] - Quote I'm always in favor of more cool stuff to skill into. How about extra proficiency skills for pretty much all modules and equipment?
Scrappy Bernard Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.01.08 18:37:00 - [22] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I know a lot of people will be upset about the hacking bonus being lost for minmatar logi...what if it became "minmatar logistics proficiency"? And then we could add other passive skill bonuses to dropsuits, like the minmatar assault having a speed bonus for its proficiency. Baiscally passives to the suits and not more bonuses to items equipped onto the suits, since the new bonuses are mostly item based. ? Another idea would be to put the more wanted bonus on the light/medium/heavy frame suit...so instead of creating a separate skill, you could get the bonus from the frame suit that's supposed to be something in between logi and assault. Sounds like Tech 2 to me.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1441	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:58:00 - [23] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Another idea would be to put the more wanted bonus on the light/medium/heavy frame suit...so instead of creating a separate skill, you could get the bonus from the frame suit that's supposed to be something in between logi and assault. Here you go. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 464	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:02:00 - [24] - Quote Bring back Type-IIs ._.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1849	Posted - 2014.01.09 12:14:00 - [25] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Bring back Type-IIs ._. If only :/ Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!


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