DUST Search - Logi Amarr will be useless.

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

pyramidhead 420 wrote:

QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine

Only if you put uplinks on an Amarr
Only if you put Hives on a Caldari
Only if you put a Scanner on a Gallante
Only if you put a repair tool on a Minmatar

What happens whe they release more equipment? Things like turrets, shield bubbles, escort drones, webifiers, sensor arrays, dampening fields, dragons teeth?

What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic?
What if an Amarr does?
What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer?
What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist?

Thaks finally someone that understand !!!

Amarr is an Combat Engineer.
But he have NOTHING to do it succefully.
He has less "potential" hp less slots (less flexibility) less equipements (Less logistics) slower (harder to follow allies).
If they're was turrets for engineer and Amarr have a bonus on it THEN it will be right.
Right now the Amarrian Logi dropsuits are trash about Logistics AND trash at combat.

Finally i have 3 slot about equipements.
Am i supposed to have 3 types of dropuplinks ?
Bonus on equipements would be fine IF they're was more equipement (at least 2 per race) and bonus on all of them.

Minmatarr : Remote / Electronic warfare (dampening)
Amarr : Dropuplink / Turrets
Gallente : Scanner /
Caldari : Nanohives / shield bubble / Nanite injector

And finally the repair tool IS NOT an Minmatarr item.
The only equipements they have is Explosive Remote.

It use Minmatarr parts.
Amarr Crystal.
Aim system are from Caldari missiles.
And the radar technology inside is gallente.

I would say they need to be more gneric, something like

Amarr:
+3% MagSize per Level

Caldari:
+3% Regulator Efficacy

Gallante:
+3% Repper Efficacy

Minmatar:
???

.....No.
Bonus for Minmatarr and Caldari are fine.
(Minmatarr add 50% more range with repair tools and 25% more repair rate which means focused can repair over 200hp/s they can repair with crazy rate out of range of the ennemies.)

Amarr don't need biggers mag.
Laser and SCR mag are already huge.
And Scrambler pistol already have his skills increasing the mag capacity.

Amarr bonus would be fine IF the Amarr Logi dropsuit was better at combat.
Right now it's the worse logi suit.
Only drawbacks.
A secondary is just a way to use even more PG/CPU.......
The bonus was cool and useful.

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Mordecai Sanguine What The French 255	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:29:00 - [1] - Quote The Logi Amarr is supposed to be the battle Logi right ? Now that he's gonna lose his bonus then WHAT MAKES HIM BATTLE LOGI ? I mean advantage : -Secondary weapon - 30 more ehp (seriously that's nothing ....) Amarr is supposed to be Dual tank right ? Then why he havem ore armor than shield ? And Amarr is supposed to havem orel ife than all other suits (slower) 30hp it's a ******* joke ? But lose : -Far slower -Less PG/CPU -Less equipements -Less Stamina less regen of stamina -Less Slots -Biggest hit detection of the game. Okay....And this is the battle logi ? well...... CCP if you don't love Amarr at least tell it instead of making them crappy.....
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 449	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:31:00 - [2] - Quote Battle + Logistics?... Logistics are support. :/ Want battle? Go assault. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1784	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:34:00 - [3] - Quote Actually, Amarr are known light armor tankers. They're also known for having less slots and being slower than the others. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 977	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:35:00 - [4] - Quote Amarr is an armor-based race, derp.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 255	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:44:00 - [5] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Battle + Logistics?... Logistics are support. :/ Want battle? Go assault. NO. Read the description of "Amarr Logistics dropsuits" Amarr Logistics dropsuits are made to be THE "Combat logi" It's supposed to be the frontline Logi. Supposed to provide support FIRE. We have lot of penality because of that (less slots less equipements and less everything) And the only thing they gave us to be that logi is a secondary weapon........ Read the ingame description if you don't belive me.
Lorhak Gannarsein 1143	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:46:00 - [6] - Quote And that DU bonus is actually pretty sweet. I'd take that over the current bonuses, for sure. Not so happy about losing my 5hp/s on GalLogi for a scanner buff. Maybe some other equipment, but I mean really; does the scanner really need 50% longer duration? PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 255	Posted - 2014.01.08 11:53:00 - [7] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: And that DU bonus is actually pretty sweet. I'd take that over the current bonuses, for sure. Not so happy about losing my 5hp/s on GalLogi for a scanner buff. Maybe some other equipment, but I mean really; does the scanner really need 50% longer duration? Actually you're wrong. The 5hp/s bonus was for ALL logi. It was removed to be "5% less PG/CPU for equipements per level" which is good. The scanner bonus removed your actual bonus which was the reduction (PG/CPU) about equipements.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 262	Posted - 2014.01.08 12:55:00 - [8] - Quote QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1506	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:01:00 - [9] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Battle + Logistics?... Logistics are support. :/ Want battle? Go assault. No Logistics are Logistics, we don't have a support class. Logistics units are supposed to be flexible, Instead of trying to limit the logistics to the back ranks where only a handful of people will play it. Make Assaults better at Assaulting . . . oh wait they are trying that out on singularity. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1506	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:06:00 - [10] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine Only if you put uplinks on an Amarr Only if you put Hives on a Caldari Only if you put a Scanner on a Gallante Only if you put a repair tool on a Minmatar What happens whe they release more equipment? Things like turrets, shield bubbles, escort drones, webifiers, sensor arrays, dampening fields, dragons teeth? What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic? What if an Amarr does? What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer? What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1033	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:28:00 - [11] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine ask an engineer or medic in any real life army what he thinks about removing his combat training or removing his bulletproof vest/assault rifle from his equipment
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1894	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:35:00 - [12] - Quote What was the old Amarr Logi bonus?(besides the armour rep) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 255	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:44:00 - [13] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine Only if you put uplinks on an Amarr Only if you put Hives on a Caldari Only if you put a Scanner on a Gallante Only if you put a repair tool on a Minmatar What happens whe they release more equipment? Things like turrets, shield bubbles, escort drones, webifiers, sensor arrays, dampening fields, dragons teeth? What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic? What if an Amarr does? What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer? What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist? Thaks finally someone that understand !!! Amarr is an Combat Engineer. But he have NOTHING to do it succefully. He has less "potential" hp less slots (less flexibility) less equipements (Less logistics) slower (harder to follow allies). If they're was turrets for engineer and Amarr have a bonus on it THEN it will be right. Right now the Amarrian Logi dropsuits are trash about Logistics AND trash at combat. Finally i have 3 slot about equipements. Am i supposed to have 3 types of dropuplinks ? Bonus on equipements would be fine IF they're was more equipement (at least 2 per race) and bonus on all of them. Minmatarr : Remote / Electronic warfare (dampening) Amarr : Dropuplink / Turrets Gallente : Scanner / Caldari : Nanohives / shield bubble / Nanite injector And finally the repair tool IS NOT an Minmatarr item. The only equipements they have is Explosive Remote. It use Minmatarr parts. Amarr Crystal. Aim system are from Caldari missiles. And the radar technology inside is gallente.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 255	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:51:00 - [14] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: What was the old Amarr Logi bonus?(besides the armour rep) The Logi Bonus (To all Logi). Was 1hp/s per level. And the Amarr Logi Bonus was 5% more effectiveness to Armor Rep. So 5hp/s. AND with Amarr logi 25% more effectiveness to Armor Reps. With a SINGLE armor reps complex. We could reach something like 13hp/s. That was LOGIC. Frontline Engineer means to be in battle. To help teamates in battle we must be able to repair ourself at a great rate. This bonus was making us able to stay in battle longer. Without passive reps the Logi class is ****** UP. The Logi need a Logi to stay alive. And this logi need an another logi which need an another Logi. Reps are way too weak under complex since hit detection issues and buff to armor. To have 7.50hp/s you need a Complex reps : 11PG It's a Complex armor plate : Use an reps makes us lost 142Hp. And finally the bonus to make equipements cheaper will make even more powerful Logi suits Welcome to Hell.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 370	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:53:00 - [15] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: What was the old Amarr Logi bonus?(besides the armour rep) If I remember correctly it's % bonus to armor repair amount (local) though I might be horribly mistaken. Cheer up a bit will you (n+ëGùòpâ«Gùò)n+ë:n+Ñn+ƒG£º:n+Ñn+ƒG£º Personal best K/A/D in 1.7 26/5/1
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1509	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:02:00 - [16] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine Only if you put uplinks on an Amarr Only if you put Hives on a Caldari Only if you put a Scanner on a Gallante Only if you put a repair tool on a Minmatar What happens whe they release more equipment? Things like turrets, shield bubbles, escort drones, webifiers, sensor arrays, dampening fields, dragons teeth? What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic? What if an Amarr does? What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer? What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist? Thaks finally someone that understand !!! Amarr is an Combat Engineer. But he have NOTHING to do it succefully. He has less "potential" hp less slots (less flexibility) less equipements (Less logistics) slower (harder to follow allies). If they're was turrets for engineer and Amarr have a bonus on it THEN it will be right. Right now the Amarrian Logi dropsuits are trash about Logistics AND trash at combat. Finally i have 3 slot about equipements. Am i supposed to have 3 types of dropuplinks ? Bonus on equipements would be fine IF they're was more equipement (at least 2 per race) and bonus on all of them. Minmatarr : Remote / Electronic warfare (dampening) Amarr : Dropuplink / Turrets Gallente : Scanner / Caldari : Nanohives / shield bubble / Nanite injector And finally the repair tool IS NOT an Minmatarr item. The only equipements they have is Explosive Remote. It use Minmatarr parts. Amarr Crystal. Aim system are from Caldari missiles. And the radar technology inside is gallente. I would say they need to be more gneric, something like Amarr: +3% MagSize per Level Caldari: +3% Regulator Efficacy Gallante: +3% Repper Efficacy Minmatar: ??? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 255	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:10:00 - [17] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine Only if you put uplinks on an Amarr Only if you put Hives on a Caldari Only if you put a Scanner on a Gallante Only if you put a repair tool on a Minmatar What happens whe they release more equipment? Things like turrets, shield bubbles, escort drones, webifiers, sensor arrays, dampening fields, dragons teeth? What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic? What if an Amarr does? What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer? What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist? Thaks finally someone that understand !!! Amarr is an Combat Engineer. But he have NOTHING to do it succefully. He has less "potential" hp less slots (less flexibility) less equipements (Less logistics) slower (harder to follow allies). If they're was turrets for engineer and Amarr have a bonus on it THEN it will be right. Right now the Amarrian Logi dropsuits are trash about Logistics AND trash at combat. Finally i have 3 slot about equipements. Am i supposed to have 3 types of dropuplinks ? Bonus on equipements would be fine IF they're was more equipement (at least 2 per race) and bonus on all of them. Minmatarr : Remote / Electronic warfare (dampening) Amarr : Dropuplink / Turrets Gallente : Scanner / Caldari : Nanohives / shield bubble / Nanite injector And finally the repair tool IS NOT an Minmatarr item. The only equipements they have is Explosive Remote. It use Minmatarr parts. Amarr Crystal. Aim system are from Caldari missiles. And the radar technology inside is gallente. I would say they need to be more gneric, something like Amarr: +3% MagSize per Level Caldari: +3% Regulator Efficacy Gallante: +3% Repper Efficacy Minmatar: ??? .....No. Bonus for Minmatarr and Caldari are fine. (Minmatarr add 50% more range with repair tools and 25% more repair rate which means focused can repair over 200hp/s they can repair with crazy rate out of range of the ennemies.) Amarr don't need biggers mag. Laser and SCR mag are already huge. And Scrambler pistol already have his skills increasing the mag capacity. Amarr bonus would be fine IF the Amarr Logi dropsuit was better at combat. Right now it's the worse logi suit. Only drawbacks. A secondary is just a way to use even more PG/CPU....... The bonus was cool and useful.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7909	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:21:00 - [18] - Quote As someone who uses DUs a lot, and an Amarr logi, I like the new bonus. It has less base shields than armor because logis always have less shields than their assault counterparts (the assault has equal shields and armor), but they gain a low slot instead. Also CCP Logibro said they changed the PG/CPU, slots, and base HP of many suits. The things you are citing may no longer even be relevant. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2199	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:25:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: As someone who uses DUs a lot, and an Amarr logi, I like the new bonus. It has less base shields than armor because logis always have less shields than their assault counterparts (the assault has equal shields and armor), but they gain a low slot instead. Also CCP Logibro said they changed the PG/CPU, slots, and base HP of many suits. The things you are citing may no longer even be relevant. I hope your right matari :[ "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1509	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:30:00 - [20] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: QFT kid, its scrubs like you and your **** poor corp, who caused this. you want combat? go assault then. the new logi bonuses are more then fine Only if you put uplinks on an Amarr Only if you put Hives on a Caldari Only if you put a Scanner on a Gallante Only if you put a repair tool on a Minmatar What happens whe they release more equipment? Things like turrets, shield bubbles, escort drones, webifiers, sensor arrays, dampening fields, dragons teeth? What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic? What if an Amarr does? What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer? What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist? Thaks finally someone that understand !!! Amarr is an Combat Engineer. But he have NOTHING to do it succefully. He has less "potential" hp less slots (less flexibility) less equipements (Less logistics) slower (harder to follow allies). If they're was turrets for engineer and Amarr have a bonus on it THEN it will be right. Right now the Amarrian Logi dropsuits are trash about Logistics AND trash at combat. Finally i have 3 slot about equipements. Am i supposed to have 3 types of dropuplinks ? Bonus on equipements would be fine IF they're was more equipement (at least 2 per race) and bonus on all of them. Minmatarr : Remote / Electronic warfare (dampening) Amarr : Dropuplink / Turrets Gallente : Scanner / Caldari : Nanohives / shield bubble / Nanite injector And finally the repair tool IS NOT an Minmatarr item. The only equipements they have is Explosive Remote. It use Minmatarr parts. Amarr Crystal. Aim system are from Caldari missiles. And the radar technology inside is gallente. I would say they need to be more gneric, something like Amarr: +3% MagSize per Level Caldari: +3% Regulator Efficacy Gallante: +3% Repper Efficacy Minmatar: ??? .....No. Bonus for Minmatarr and Caldari are fine. (Minmatarr add 50% more range with repair tools and 25% more repair rate which means focused can repair over 200hp/s they can repair with crazy rate out of range of the ennemies.) Amarr don't need biggers mag. Laser and SCR mag are already huge. And Scrambler pistol already have his skills increasing the mag capacity. Amarr bonus would be fine IF the Amarr Logi dropsuit was better at combat. Right now it's the worse logi suit. Only drawbacks. A secondary is just a way to use even more PG/CPU....... The bonus was cool and useful. In one breath you said its not fair to force Logi units into specific roles, then in the next its fine to have bonuses that penalise you if you don't use that equipment. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 256	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:37:00 - [21] - Quote No the problem is not than it makes Logi spec into one direction i don't have specific problem with it. The problem is than these roles are not...well real roles for everyone. Amarr Logi is supposed to be a Combat Engineer. He have the weakiest suits and the less Versability you see the problem ? They gave him DU bonus well...... The role of an Combat engineer is NOT to set the spawn....this is the role of an Scout !!!!!! The problem is than each soldier have diffrent roles. Minmatarr : Repair. Gallente : Scan. Caldari : Ressuply. Amarr : Spawn. Sorry but Scanning and set the spawn are NOT a real ROLE for a Logi..... It's like i was saying to give more Hp to scout to making him able to tank damage for an entire squad this is...weird.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1350	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:38:00 - [22] - Quote It is true I guess..... People will always find something to ***** about. I am a logi and I can admit that I have some mixed emotions about the new bonuses; am I crying about it before it is even on TQ? No, I'll simply adapt and if I should find myself unable to fulfill my duties as a logi after the changes are implemented-- then I'll come to the forums to present my argument backed up with experience rather than speculation. So please, until you've actually played with the new Amarr Logi bonuses, kindly STFU. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 256	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:43:00 - [23] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: As someone who uses DUs a lot, and an Amarr logi, I like the new bonus. It has less base shields than armor because logis always have less shields than their assault counterparts (the assault has equal shields and armor), but they gain a low slot instead. Also CCP Logibro said they changed the PG/CPU, slots, and base HP of many suits. The things you are citing may no longer even be relevant. I didn't knew that. Right now the only thing we see are than they HATE amarrians. All new bonus for amarr suits are uselesss OR a Nerf...... Assault : More RoF with an Semi-auto weapon which have unlimited RoF ? Nice CCP.....that was worth it..... Logi : Weird bonus....The time reduction for DU is REALLY cool. But the max spawn is well...useless. I mean actually it have something like 10-20 units.....10 more is not really...useful ^^'
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1798	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:46:00 - [24] - Quote Next person to say amarr is suppose to dual tank is getting their eyes ripped out. Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 25Mil+ ISK in Dust
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 1045	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:47:00 - [25] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Actually, Amarr are known light armor tankers. They're also known for having less slots and being slower than the others. Actually, Amarr have always been known to be brick tankers with the best armor in New Eden. But CCP ****** them up in Dust. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 256	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:48:00 - [26] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: It is true I guess..... People will always find something to ***** about. I am a logi and I can admit that I have some mixed emotions about the new bonuses; am I crying about it before it is even on TQ? No, I'll simply adapt and if I should find myself unable to fulfill my duties as a logi after the changes are implemented-- then I'll come to the forums to present my argument backed up with experience rather than speculation. So please, until you've actually played with the new Amarr Logi bonuses, kindly STFU. Amarr logi has ALWAYS be the weakiest Logi suit of all. The only thing that was "cool" with it WAS THIS FREAKING REPAIR BONUS (25%) mixed with the LOGI bonus (5hp/s) . Remove that and it's weakier in ALL parts. It's the slower suit. littlest potential Hp because of less slots. Less PG/CPU I mean if the Actual Amarr Logi never complain that's because : 1 : There's not a lot of them less than 1 players every 50 i REALLY rarely see an Amarr logi. 2 : Good armor rate is cool (Logi bonus and Amarr logi bonus was stacked.) Anyway okay with you let's watch and see. I just hope there will be full respac when it comes.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1350	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:50:00 - [27] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: It is true I guess..... People will always find something to ***** about. I am a logi and I can admit that I have some mixed emotions about the new bonuses; am I crying about it before it is even on TQ? No, I'll simply adapt and if I should find myself unable to fulfill my duties as a logi after the changes are implemented-- then I'll come to the forums to present my argument backed up with experience rather than speculation. So please, until you've actually played with the new Amarr Logi bonuses, kindly STFU. Amarr logi has ALWAYS be the weakiest Logi suit of all. The only thing that was "cool" with it WAS THIS FREAKING REPAIR BONUS (25%) mixed with the LOGI bonus (5hp/s) . Remove that and it's weakier in ALL parts. It's the slower suit. littlest potential Hp because of less slots. Less PG/CPU I mean if the Actual Amarr Logi never complain that's because : 1 : There's not a lot of them less than 1 players every 50 i REALLY rarely see an Amarr logi. 2 : Good armor rate is cool (Logi bonus and Amarr logi bonus was stacked.) Anyway okay with you let's watch and see. I just hope there will be full respac when it comes. So the sidearm is a total non-factor? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Onesimus Tarsus 766	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:11:00 - [28] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: It is true I guess..... People will always find something to ***** about. I am a logi and I can admit that I have some mixed emotions about the new bonuses; am I crying about it before it is even on TQ? No, I'll simply adapt and if I should find myself unable to fulfill my duties as a logi after the changes are implemented-- then I'll come to the forums to present my argument backed up with experience rather than speculation. So please, until you've actually played with the new Amarr Logi bonuses, kindly STFU. Amarr logi has ALWAYS be the weakiest Logi suit of all. The only thing that was "cool" with it WAS THIS FREAKING REPAIR BONUS (25%) mixed with the LOGI bonus (5hp/s) . Remove that and it's weakier in ALL parts. It's the slower suit. littlest potential Hp because of less slots. Less PG/CPU I mean if the Actual Amarr Logi never complain that's because : 1 : There's not a lot of them less than 1 players every 50 i REALLY rarely see an Amarr logi. 2 : Good armor rate is cool (Logi bonus and Amarr logi bonus was stacked.) Anyway okay with you let's watch and see. I just hope there will be full respac when it comes. So the sidearm is a total non-factor? With a TTK measured in nanoseconds, pretty much. I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
Blaze Ashra Ametat Security Amarr Empire 81	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:41:00 - [29] - Quote Losing the logi regen. That sucks a bit. Losing the Armor repair buff, It's nice but not that big of a deal. Gaining the PG/CPU reduction. as long as they don't do anything stupid like nerf our stats including PG/CPU this is awesome. +10 to spawn and 50% spawn time. I'm honestly not sure. Great for me though.
Ankbar Latrommi Immortal Guides 21	Posted - 2014.01.08 15:50:00 - [30] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: What if a Minmatar doesn't want to play Medic? What if an Amarr does? What if a Gallante wants to be a Combat Engineer? What if a Caldari wants to be an E-war/Comms Specialist? Why do you resist/buck cross-training? What's the reason that's so bad? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS

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