DUST Search - SiSi "leaks" - the CPM's perspective

The Robot Devil wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Bascially, no reason to panic. Also, in case you didn't get it from his post, the CPM learned about this stuff at the same time we did. They were not part of this because it was labeled as "internal" and thus not shared with them.

The CPM could have stopped a lot of this rage/speculation if they had just been told about the SISI items. I don't expect to see these itmes in there current form but they should have informed the CPM instead of dropping this for the community to run with. The bonuses and other things listed on the test server incite rage on the forums, cause premature nerf/buff threads and in my personal view is a slap in the face to the CPM. I am not saying that every decision should be okay-ed by the CPM but a lot of angry typing could have been avoided by simply informing the CPM that the different bonuses would be on SISI and giving them a list of what was going to be on the test server. I am not asking for more transparency or anything like that but a one day warning would have been nice and stopped alot of these threads. I do hope that CCP learns from this and at least involves the CPM a little bit before this type of thing happens again. We can't build trust between players and developers if the player representatives are not involve and informed.


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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11695	Posted - 2014.01.08 02:20:00 - [1] - Quote http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/332008/670b169c-7a6e-4d6c-95d8-d9ebdf2dc390.png Things that popped on sisi and yet to materialize Bombers Destroyers Misma Grenades Flux Mines Drone Installations everything labeled [test] Gender named and specific dropsuits (ie Caldari Female Medium Frame) and many more. Most of these have been removed from sisi though but still appear on the SDE. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11695	Posted - 2014.01.08 02:23:00 - [2] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/332008/670b169c-7a6e-4d6c-95d8-d9ebdf2dc390.png Things that popped on sisi and yet to materialize Bombers Destroyers Misma Grenades Flux Mines Drone Installations everything labeled [test] Gender specific dropsuit items. and many more. So what you're saying is these heavies won't materialize? Don't count chickens before they hatch, talk about the eggs all you want though but depending on the care given to the eggs will determine if we're going have an egg mac muffin or a crispy chicken sandwich. Don't worry guys CPM will keep our ears close to the ground and attentive in the situation, we do welcome feedback on so far as well as open to alternatives that fit within the direction ccp is trying to take the suits (becuase I doubt we can make then go backwards on things like that). Till we get blue posts responsible on these 'products' just treat as early speculation and work in progress. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11702	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:46:00 - [3] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Bascially, no reason to panic. Also, in case you didn't get it from his post, the CPM learned about this stuff at the same time we did. They were not part of this because it was labeled as "internal" and thus not shared with them. The CPM could have stopped a lot of this rage/speculation if they had just been told about the SISI items. I don't expect to see these itmes in there current form but they should have informed the CPM instead of dropping this for the community to run with. The bonuses and other things listed on the test server incite rage on the forums, cause premature nerf/buff threads and in my personal view is a slap in the face to the CPM. I am not saying that every decision should be okay-ed by the CPM but a lot of angry typing could have been avoided by simply informing the CPM that the different bonuses would be on SISI and giving them a list of what was going to be on the test server. I am not asking for more transparency or anything like that but a one day warning would have been nice and stopped alot of these threads. I do hope that CCP learns from this and at least involves the CPM a little bit before this type of thing happens again. We can't build trust between players and developers if the player representatives are not involve and informed. To be honest even if the cpm was made aware early about it, it would not have changed the rage. Ragers are going to rage. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11707	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:21:00 - [4] - Quote CPM job is not really to calm the player base though, its to conduit the emotion generated into a palpable and understandable state. Us trying to calm you guys down is more of an extra service the CPM at times feels obligated because we do have insider knowledge of how the developers work and trying to give those humans a break from all the ire. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11707	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:25:00 - [5] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CPM job is not really to calm the player base though, its to conduit the emotion generated into a palpable and understandable state. Us trying to calm you guys down is more of an extra service the CPM at times feels obligated because we do have insider knowledge of how the developers work and trying to give those humans a break from all the ire. I am glad you can say it better than I can. Sometimes I am too long winded. Oh its so much harder to hate someone you have time to know, befriend a bit, discuss things not relating to dust and met at fan fest over a bunch of bars. This is how sworn enemies in eve get along oddly. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11856	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:25:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: Posted this on reddit and sharing here too: I can't stress enough just how volatile the test server data is sometimes. It can be less than 24 hours after some developer has a crazy idea or is just playing around with something before it ends up on Chaos or SiSi and a data dump is taken. We author items on a big shared content server which gets regularly copied around in various states of completeness, if you dig deep enough you can find all manner of garbage for EVE that has never seen the light of day. The Ion Cannon is my personal favourite: http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i3522-Ion-Cannon-details.html Damn those sound scarier than current strikes. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked