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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:21:00 -
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I'd just like to point out that my boundless CR has 1000 dps when properly fit.
The SCR exceeds that, on paper - if you can tap the trigger insanely fast, which most people can't, in which case it doesn't.
Oh, and my CR doesn't overheat.
You also shield tank Minmatar assault/scout. Of course you get killed quickly by anti-shield weaponry in flimsy shield suits.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:01:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I'm moreso upset that the Amarr Assault is getting a racial bonus for something that doesn't really apply to us. Armor repair module efficiency? You kidding me? Amarr assaults suits don't have enough modules to take advantage of that. If you're going to take advantage of that, you need to put at least two of them. That leaves the advanced suit with no room for armor plates and the proto suit only gets one slot for armor plates. This means in order to get some tanking in you have to shield tank.
So Amarr Assault suits will be shield tankers with a soft but semi-fast regenerating armor inner layer. I mean, maybe it could work but it sounds bad. Reasonable gripe. They need to flip the Amarr and Gallente bonuses. Amarr should armor tank. Gallente should Rep tank, and rely on their amazing base Armor and multiple low slots to run a solid, regenerative tank.
Yep yep.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:09:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Spademan wrote:Firstly, whats brought this up?
Secondly, combat rifle reloads faster.
Third, I dont know about assault suits, but that overheat gets in the way.
So yeah, is something being changed? Base SCR reload is 2.5 Base CR reload is 2.6
Overheat seizure is 5 seconds.
It also does damage.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:10:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Last I checked alpha damage isn't everything, a sniper rifle can one-shot kill someone depending on the suit, but if the sniper rifle got nerfed It would still be unjustified.
Last I checked, the ROF of automatic weapons was much higher than as-fast-as-you-can-pull-the-trigger speed, so I'm not sure why you even mentioned that.
Last I checked, the scrambler rifle overheats after 15 or so shots, or even after just a small handful of shots if it was a charge shot, and you can't kill a medium suit in 2 or 3 shots without charging (charging is a risk, and puts all your eggs in one basket, if you miss you're screwed).
Last I checked, the time it takes to charge the high alpha damage shot, another rifle could have already killed someone. And what is the average damage per shot? 60? 15+ù60 = 900 it's not that bad.
Try 90.
A bit more if damage modded enough.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:14:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Spademan wrote:Firstly, whats brought this up?
Secondly, combat rifle reloads faster.
Third, I dont know about assault suits, but that overheat gets in the way.
So yeah, is something being changed? Base SCR reload is 2.5 Base CR reload is 2.6 Overheat seizure is 5 seconds. It also does damage. Which will now make this weapon slightly less infurating to fight against in CQC because you can force an Amarr assault to overheat just like everyone else.
Of course it's infuriating for you to fight in CQC.
It is your hardest counter. An anti-shield, high alpha weapon against a low HP ceiling shielded suit.
I do not see the problem with this.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:24:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Of course it's infuriating for you to fight in CQC.
It is your hardest counter. An anti-shield, high alpha weapon against a low HP ceiling shielded suit.
I do not see the problem with this.
Exactly...? I'm confused are we arguing or agreeing. Honestly I think it makes the SCR more balanced for CQC in a sort of indirect way as the SCR should be used as a range weapon instead of a CQC beast like a lot people use it as.
Sometimes I'm agreeing with you in this thread, sometimes I'm disagreeing. 
I'll just explain my view then.
I do not believe the SCR is notable for outclassing other weapons currently. This is mostly due to the new rifles - the CR in particular can get competitive DPS with the SCR whilst not being hindered by an overheat mechanic.
I am of the opinion that high DPS long range weapons should not be good in CQC - essentially, hipfire spread would be nice. However, I think that with other weapons on field that do similar damage in a more versatile fashion such a nerf would simply kill off usage of the weapon.
Regarding the removal of the overheat bonus on the Amarr assault - I don't think it'll kill the weapon. I highly doubt it will.
It will, however, screw over people who chose specifically to spec into that suit for the role it offered in the form of that overheat bonus. There are many better suits if you disregard the overheat bonus, and I'm sure lots of SCR + Amarr assault users chose that combination specifically for the overheat bonus.
By removing that bonus, suddenly you have a lot of disgruntled SCR specialists who now have a suit which can no longer fill the role they specced into it for.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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