DUST Search - The assault is all messed up...

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Ryder Azorria wrote:

Sir Dukey wrote:

The new skills that might be given to assaults are all messed up. The assault suits should go along with racial weapons. The assaults suits take the weakness of the racial weapon and should reduce that. I.E. a combat rifle doesn't have a lot of bullets per clip so the minmitar assault increases clip/ magazine size. The rail rifle has low Rof so the caldari assault increases its rof. The Scr overheats like a bch so Amarr assault reduce heat build up. The assault rifle has little range so gallante assault decrease in damage drop off. 10% rof increase of light weapons in the assault classes is gay... practically all the assault classes will be the same.

These are just ideas.

I almost started typing out a proper response - but then I noticed you're one of those idiots who uses a sexual orientation as a synnomyn for 'bad', so instead you get this.

Yeah, I don't agree with using the word like that because it implies homosexuality is something negative, but I think the upcoming assault bonuses sucking is problem.

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Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 263	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:41:00 - [1] - Quote The new skills that might be given to assaults are all messed up. The assault suits should go along with racial weapons. The assaults suits take the weakness of the racial weapon and should reduce that. I.E. a combat rifle doesn't have a lot of bullets per clip so the minmitar assault increases clip/ magazine size. The rail rifle has low Rof so the caldari assault increases its rof. The Scr overheats like a bch so Amarr assault reduce heat build up. The assault rifle has little range so gallante assault decrease in damage drop off. 10% rof increase of light weapons in the assault classes is gay... practically all the assault classes will be the same. These are just ideas.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2324	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:45:00 - [2] - Quote None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 263	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:46:00 - [3] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... I'm not freaking out, heck, im not even an assault player so its not my problem but im just suggesting some sh*t.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7864	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:47:00 - [4] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... They will be final if we don't speak out against them before its too late. This is basically the "its just a beta" argument applied to upcoming skill changes. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1600	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:50:00 - [5] - Quote also assaults use more then one weapon.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 783	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:51:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The new skills that might be given to assaults are all messed up. The assault suits should go along with racial weapons. The assaults suits take the weakness of the racial weapon and should reduce that. I.E. a combat rifle doesn't have a lot of bullets per clip so the minmitar assault increases clip/ magazine size. The rail rifle has low Rof so the caldari assault increases its rof. The Scr overheats like a bch so Amarr assault reduce heat build up. The assault rifle has little range so gallante assault decrease in damage drop off. 10% rof increase of light weapons in the assault classes is gay... practically all the assault classes will be the same. These are just ideas. I almost started typing out a proper response - but then I noticed you're one of those idiots who uses a sexual orientation as a synnomyn for 'bad', so instead you get this.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 264	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:53:00 - [7] - Quote calisk galern wrote: also assaults use more then one weapon. there is a reason we have different racial weapons and dropsuits. Its common sense to make like and like things preform better.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 264	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:53:00 - [8] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The new skills that might be given to assaults are all messed up. The assault suits should go along with racial weapons. The assaults suits take the weakness of the racial weapon and should reduce that. I.E. a combat rifle doesn't have a lot of bullets per clip so the minmitar assault increases clip/ magazine size. The rail rifle has low Rof so the caldari assault increases its rof. The Scr overheats like a bch so Amarr assault reduce heat build up. The assault rifle has little range so gallante assault decrease in damage drop off. 10% rof increase of light weapons in the assault classes is gay... practically all the assault classes will be the same. These are just ideas. I almost started typing out a proper response - but then I noticed you're one of those idiots who uses a sexual orientation as a synnomyn for 'bad', so instead you get this. fixed bro.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7865	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:57:00 - [9] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The new skills that might be given to assaults are all messed up. The assault suits should go along with racial weapons. The assaults suits take the weakness of the racial weapon and should reduce that. I.E. a combat rifle doesn't have a lot of bullets per clip so the minmitar assault increases clip/ magazine size. The rail rifle has low Rof so the caldari assault increases its rof. The Scr overheats like a bch so Amarr assault reduce heat build up. The assault rifle has little range so gallante assault decrease in damage drop off. 10% rof increase of light weapons in the assault classes is gay... practically all the assault classes will be the same. These are just ideas. I almost started typing out a proper response - but then I noticed you're one of those idiots who uses a sexual orientation as a synnomyn for 'bad', so instead you get this. Yeah, I don't agree with using the word like that because it implies homosexuality is something negative, but I think the upcoming assault bonuses sucking is problem. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1774	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:57:00 - [10] - Quote i really like my sidearm bonus, whole reason i specced the suit, i really hope we get a respec. Minmatar Assault. Sidearm King. SMG's and Pistols. Melting armour, and blowing heads off. +60
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2014.01.07 20:58:00 - [11] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The new skills that might be given to assaults are all messed up. The assault suits should go along with racial weapons. The assaults suits take the weakness of the racial weapon and should reduce that. I.E. a combat rifle doesn't have a lot of bullets per clip so the minmitar assault increases clip/ magazine size. The rail rifle has low Rof so the caldari assault increases its rof. The Scr overheats like a bch so Amarr assault reduce heat build up. The assault rifle has little range so gallante assault decrease in damage drop off. 10% rof increase of light weapons in the assault classes is gay... practically all the assault classes will be the same. These are just ideas. I almost started typing out a proper response - but then I noticed you're one of those idiots who uses a sexual orientation as a synnomyn for 'bad', so instead you get this. Yeah, I don't agree with using the word like that because it implies homosexuality is something negative, but I think the upcoming assault bonuses sucking is problem. I meant it as wrong. And in my mind it is wrong but off the topic now.
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 446	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:00:00 - [12] - Quote Caldari assault should reduce rail rifle kick. Other than that I agree with your ideas.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 265	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:07:00 - [13] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Caldari assault should reduce rail rifle kick. Other than that I agree with your ideas. you must be awful at fps games if you cannot manage the kick of the rail rifle...
Garth Mandra The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 283	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:25:00 - [14] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... Unfortunately that's what they said about the new armour plates....
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 448	Posted - 2014.01.07 21:38:00 - [15] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Caldari assault should reduce rail rifle kick. Other than that I agree with your ideas. you must be awful at fps games if you cannot manage the kick of the rail rifle... If the bonuses are meant to shore up the weaknesses of the racial rifle, and the weakness of the rail rifle is kick, then the racial bonus should reduce kick.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 269	Posted - 2014.01.07 23:38:00 - [16] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Caldari assault should reduce rail rifle kick. Other than that I agree with your ideas. you must be awful at fps games if you cannot manage the kick of the rail rifle... If the bonuses are meant to shore up the weaknesses of the racial rifle, and the weakness of the rail rifle is kick, then the racial bonus should reduce kick. weakness to you maybe...
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate 133	Posted - 2014.01.07 23:47:00 - [17] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: calisk galern wrote: also assaults use more then one weapon. there is a reason we have different racial weapons and dropsuits. Its common sense to make like and like things preform better. Pickle puffing is unnatural. EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today! Let's gank Scotty.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 271	Posted - 2014.01.08 02:47:00 - [18] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Why are they tinkering at all with this stuff now when there are other things we players feel are higher priorities? it is to make assault better at slayer than the logi...
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 322	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:20:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Lt Royal wrote: None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... They will be final if we don't speak out against them before its too late. This is basically the "its just a beta" argument applied to upcoming skill changes. Amen brother , preach the Dust gospel because I was going to say the same thing with the exception about beta , wasn't here for that one . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 322	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:35:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Why are they tinkering at all with this stuff now when there are other things we players feel are higher priorities? it is to make assault better at slayer than the logi... Do you really see that ??? It will make all the assaults have the same strengths but against each other that strength will become a weakness . It will be like two 6 '5 270 pound buff guys hitting each other at the same time and also knocking each other out at the same time as well . This will produce even more first shot victories with the damage bonus as well as the ROF increase . From reading what was written before in the debate about slayer logi's , yes they had strength but what made them even more dangerous was their ability to take a shot because of the repairer bonus or the shield efficacy or armor bonuses that each race had . Logi's were weaker on paper because of slot configuration until you got to the prototype ( prob the most proto's among all the proto's on the battlefield ) but the fact that they were quick healers on top of the hives that could rep as well made them a awesome combo . You have to be able to take a shot to be a slayer and damage control would have worked more wonders for them than damage output . That could have been handled with an increase of their programming and CPU just like the logi's have . People seems to forget about the logi's defense because that is what truly made the logislayer dangerous , not just the output of damage . These thoughts about assaults are just so one sided that assault vs assault , you wont even notice the difference . VS one another they will both die fast , no doubt about that . There should have been bonuses in place that pertains to their survivability not just the damage out put as well as an increase in CPU & PG . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 323	Posted - 2014.01.08 05:41:00 - [21] - Quote It's just like in boxing , you have to be good at taking a shot in order to deliver one and with these changes against each other they will be a bunch of " Glass Joe's " . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1940	Posted - 2014.01.08 06:41:00 - [22] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: i really like my sidearm bonus, whole reason i specced the suit, i really hope we get a respec. Do you wanna know something funny? I hope we get a respec so I can go minnie assault because it's going to be broken as **. The fastest suit also does the most damage? holy ** that's a bad idea. Either CCP needs to increase the base HP of every non minmatar suit (the paltry 5% per level for mods is not enough) or the minnie suit bonus needs to get toned down quite a bit. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 97	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:27:00 - [23] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... Didn't we say the same thing about the new armor plates like the reactive and ferroscale plates. Guess what.......they came out with those exact stats despite the response that they don't give enough given the fitting cost and they were released despite supposedly.....not final or official stats Changes may not be 1.8 official yet but i wouldn't be surprised if this speculation became reality. Trust in the Rust! 7-Time Matar Mass Driver World Champion Combat Rifle is for Combat!
Jackoun Amarthon Federation Foreign Fighters 10	Posted - 2014.01.08 14:54:00 - [24] - Quote It would make sense... It would also make Dust feel like its connected to EvE, that the suits follow the mindset set behind the ships.. That each race focus on each their special. A specialized suit would natualy compensate the weaknesses of the army. Help me make Faction Warfare feel like conquering a planet!
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1943	Posted - 2014.01.08 19:27:00 - [25] - Quote Chief-Shotty wrote: Lt Royal wrote: None of those stats are final in anyway so chill out..... Didn't we say the same thing about the new armor plates like the reactive and ferroscale plates. Guess what.......they came out with those exact stats despite the response that they don't give enough given the fitting cost and they were released despite supposedly.....not final or official stats Changes may not be 1.8 official yet but i wouldn't be surprised if this speculation became reality. This is why you'll see forum warriors railing against some of these changes harder than what seems rational. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.

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