Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:14:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:Disagree, all standard level infantry and vehicle racial variants need to exist first. Give that a final respec and move forward from there barring any large rework of skills. How many times have the bonuses of EVE ships been completely reworked in the last two years with no respec given? This ain't EvE.
In terms of Dust being a first-person shooter, you are correct.
But this game has a lot of things built into it that screams "THIS IS EVE". Let me elaborate.
1. The title. Look at the introduction video when you turn on the game. What do you see above the word "Dust 514"? EVE. What do you see on the top left corner of this very forum page that you are reading? EVE/DUST 514
2. The Eve-Dust connection. Still needs more work, but it's getting there and the connection has more love recently with the revamp to FW.
3. The culture. Both games are operating under the cultural rules and norms of New Eden.
4. The fitting menu.
Of course, some things in Eve don't always work well in Dust while some things in Eve do work well in Dust. But that's more about game mechanics than actual respects.
Ok, now let's get back on topic.
Overall, I have to agree with Sigberct in that there should be full respecs ONLY under the condition that ALL racial variants of weapons, vehicles, and suits are introduced all at once. Alternatively, CCP can do partial respecs whenever they focus on one aspect of the game at a time such as vehicle respecs for 1.7 and possibly suit respecs for 1.8, etc. This to me is acceptable.
Honestly when it comes to respecs, I like it better if CCP were to adopt Eve Online's Neural Remap system. If you don't know what that is, here is a summary of how it works.
Neural Remap System
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Neural_remap
As you can see, this is pretty fair but it's nothing like the respec system you know since SP is not really moved around but rather attribute points that affect the speed of learning a certain type of skill book. This has worked well so far for Eve Online for at least the past 3 or so years with no problems.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:43:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Every time there's a new suit or new gear there should not be respecs.
If by "new suit/gear" you mean something like a Covert Ops scout suit or maybe a pilot suit, then yeah I can understand your point. But we're talking about core content here such as Amarr Scout, Gallente Scout, Caldari Scout, Minmatar Scout, Amarr Heavy, Gallente Heavy, Caldari Heavy, Minmatar Heavy, etc. etc. etc. If CCP implements all such core suits at once then there will need to be a respec of the suits because the Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Heavies (for example) were not readily available and thus many heavy players (most of which are not really fans of the Amarr) were forced to train into Amarr Heavy suits.
Now, if CCP were to introduce something like the pilot suits or Commander (not Commando) suits or maybe Covert Ops suits or perhaps pirate faction suits like the Sansha Nation or Dread Guristas that sometimes require two different racial skills to use (ie: the Dramiel in Eve), then I will agree with you that there should be NO respecs given out for those as they are technically NOT core content.
Another example of this is in Eve Online. Believe it or not, Eve Online did get one free respect shortly after commercial release back in 2003 according to the closed-beta veterans who were there. But that was a one-time thing to address the introduction of the remaining CORE content and since then there have been no respecs (at least the full ones). Over the following years, ships like the Orca, Rorqual, Nyx, Erebus, Moros, Revelation, etc. were introduced but no respecs were given because technically they were not CORE content.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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