NTY. At least right now if someone revives me to get blasted by the reds there's a good chance they'll die with me. really don't want them doing it safely from cover.

It happens constantly as is. Blueberry runs in without bothering to make sure the area is clear and stabs you with militia injector, then back peddles while the recently revived becomes the recently ko'd again. Then he does it again, and again until he dies. It happens frequently.

There's nothing cynical or sick about pointing out something that's already happening in the game. If they do it now, why wouldn't they do it safely from range?

Dear gods, would you stop attempting to validate your point of view through blatant attempts at emotionalizing the discussion? If you don't want feedback on your idea don't put it on the forums. If you can't handle someone expressing a point of view other than your without name calling you need to grow a thicker skin. If you want to convince the devs (or anyone else) that you're idea is a good one making clear, concise arguments that back up your point of view is the way to go.

I don't wish death on my teammates. I also don't want them being griefed by point farmers and newbies. This doesn't make me cynical, it makes me a realist. You're inability to look at something from another players point of view doesn't mean I think clones are cheap nor does it make me sick. It simply means I disagree with you for the reasons listed.

Smart/tactical players don't just rush in on the man down. He's down for a reason. You're correct, there isn't always time to check the entire area. That doesn't mean we should implement equipment that discourages situational awareness. Additionally when I get back to back to back deaths/revives it's usually because someone is more interested in points than in team work. How do I know? Because it usually happens while the fire fight is still going on, and my "corps" is right in the middle of it. All reviving me does is stack points for the person with the pig stick and the guy who re-drops me/the pig sticker (leaving my team down two players instead of one). Being a team player doesn't mean auto-reviving every downed it player. It means keeping the ones on their feet up while killing redberrys. IF it's safe and good for the team revive the man down, other wise let him rot.

Additionally.

You idea of a ranged injector with make many combat situations worse, reducing team effectiveness by preventing players from spawning at a more appropriate location where they actually have a chance at changing the flow of that fight. If the guy with the injector has to go into the fray to hit me, it forces him to be more tactically aware of the situation which is also of more benefit to my team. Newberry won't learn not to revive people in the crossfire if he can do it from behind a box. All he learns is that he can farm a large quantity of WP by stacking multiple ranged pig stickers and repeatedly hitting the poor guy in the middle of the kill box.

Take this from someone who has dedicated 9 mounths into a logibro fit. This, while the theory behind it is good, would only be abused as mentioned above. One reason I don't support this is the low amout of repair. It leaves your teammate next to dead and anyone near them would kill them before you had time to put a repair tool on them.

Name calling is an attempt to evoke an unpleasant emotion response usually used when a valid counter argument isn't available. Repeatedly countering me with what amounted to you're sick and cynical boils down to name calling. If you have a valid point state it and I'll respond. Usually in a clear concise manner.

If that's how the comment came across it was unintentional. The intent was that if someone is farming me for points I want them to die. If they don't understand why they shouldn't revive me while my corps is lying in the middle of a gun fight I want them to die. Why? Because it teaches them what not to do. It has nothing to do with griefing my team, and everything to do with them learning a lesson.

Griefing is griefing. I don't want them subjected to it anymore than I want to be subjected to it. It's more likely to drive players off than anything else.

Cool down timer is both good and bad. It does help prevent griefing, however anyone who wishes to abuse it will simply pull out a logi and triple dip. (Look at shield/armor hardeners). If timers are extended the item becomes next to useless, or drives players to swap fits out (like they do with tanks) to beat the timer.

The concept is neat, I simply see it as far too easily abused. Additional thought, charge up time means you're useless to your squad for xxx time. I've played around with forge guns, and while they're powerful, your a giant waste of space while charging it up. Someone who can't shoot the enemy, repair his team, lob grenades feels more damaging than helpful.

Smart, tactical thinking. You evaluated an open area before rushing in to hit your teammate. Unless I'm misunderstanding you don't do this where you can't make a tactical decision.


Answer to second part of above quote...
That sounds very much like the griefing/WP farming situation I'm specifically concerned about, which is likely to drive players from the game, not encourage them to stay and play.