DUST Search - Feedback / Request : Lower the damage out put on the CR and RR already .

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen .

Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ???

Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment .

Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill .

That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort .

Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job .

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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 299	Posted - 2014.01.06 01:59:00 - [1] - Quote This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen . Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ??? Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment . Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill . That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort . Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 299	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:04:00 - [2] - Quote And NO people I was not taking fire from ANYWHERE or ANYONE ELSE , so throw that out along with any smart comments that I'm sure you have . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 8	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:04:00 - [3] - Quote What may have happened is that CCP probably forgot to make the Combat Rifle "bounce" when you fire it like the tactical and burst assault rifles do. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 8	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:05:00 - [4] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: And NO people I was not taking fire from ANYWHERE or ANYONE ELSE , so throw that out along with any smart comments that I'm sure you have . Wow, already expecting the worst-case scenario much? And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 299	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:08:00 - [5] - Quote Ralden Caster wrote: What may have happened is that CCP probably forgot to make the Combat Rifle "bounce" when you fire it like the tactical and burst assault rifles do. Could be . You might be on to something there . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 8	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:09:00 - [6] - Quote Scouts also need some love. Imagine how they are faring, trying to get into shotgun range with those new rifles spam-firing at them. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 299	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:13:00 - [7] - Quote Ralden Caster wrote: Scouts also need some love. Imagine how they are faring, trying to get into shotgun range with those new rifles spam-firing at them. I know right , they have both damage and range , normally a weapon has one trait not the full package . No other weapon besides the SR can claim that coupled with the fact that you can just shoot and it's done , no effort at all ... spray and pray but you don't have to pray that hard because they will be dead before you finish the first sentence of Our Father . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 10	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:23:00 - [8] - Quote The only possible drawback I can see with the new rifles is rather abstract; In faction warfare, you would have to watch your fire carefully, as you could really hurt someone with that thing! And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 10	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:25:00 - [9] - Quote Also I have proposed a fix to the scouts as well: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133907&find=unread And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 10	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:26:00 - [10] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ralden Caster wrote: Scouts also need some love. Imagine how they are faring, trying to get into shotgun range with those new rifles spam-firing at them. I know right , they have both damage and range , normally a weapon has one trait not the full package . No other weapon besides the SR can claim that coupled with the fact that you can just shoot and it's done , no effort at all ... spray and pray but you don't have to pray that hard because they will be dead before you finish the first sentence of Our Father . It's more like spray and be the devil. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.

Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 10	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:28:00 - [11] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen . Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ??? Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment . Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill . That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort . Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job . Being killed by the new rifles as a heavy? I hear ya. Last time I was on, it happened for the twentieth time. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 301	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:32:00 - [12] - Quote Dam . So I'm sure that being a part time heavy is better than being a full time heavy with these guns around . I'm sure the full timers have it hard . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 12	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:43:00 - [13] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Dam . So I'm sure that being a part time heavy is better than being a full time heavy with these guns around . I'm sure the full timers have it hard . It ticks me off so bad, especially since it was in 1.7 that I had finally had enough SP to unlock the use of prototype Sentinels just for them to become useless. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 12	Posted - 2014.01.06 02:58:00 - [14] - Quote A bit off topic, but in the forum topic I had made about scouts not taking fall damage, how can I change the name of the topic? I want it changed to make it seem more appealing. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 302	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:09:00 - [15] - Quote Ralden Caster wrote: A bit off topic, but in the forum topic I had made about scouts not taking fall damage, how can I change the name of the topic? I want it changed to make it seem more appealing. Don't know that one , I'm sure the fact that you even asked , someone will come along with the right answer . I apologize that I can't help you on that one . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Text Grant Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 290	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:15:00 - [16] - Quote I'm imagining a basic heavy with a basic hmg.... Unless you skilled into heavy suits to run your sniper on?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 302	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:18:00 - [17] - Quote Text Grant wrote: I'm imagining a basic heavy with a basic hmg.... Unless you skilled into heavy suits to run your sniper on? Of course you would . Try a MH-82 . I work hard for what I have . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 302	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:20:00 - [18] - Quote What if I had a prototype suit on it would be alright ??? My shields and armor is maxed out . That's maxed and my core is dam near so what's your point ??? If I had on a proto heavy then it would have been a problem ... how sad . A problem is a problem regardless . You people LOVE to nit pick . On that suit armor 782 , shields 543 . You do the math , with a complex armor / repairer on it . When the suits come out I will be a Caldari heavy for sure . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 323	Posted - 2014.01.06 03:53:00 - [19] - Quote All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 303	Posted - 2014.01.06 06:23:00 - [20] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction. I second that one for the AR's . I understand about the 10% as well . Got my vote . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!

KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 397	Posted - 2014.01.06 06:29:00 - [21] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction. The laser needs a 10% reduction? The mass driver needs a 10% reduction? The plasma cannon needs any kind of nerf at all? Nope, sorry. The rifles do need a 20-30% damage nerf though, and perhaps some added dispersion.
Kharga Lum Xeno Labs Security 187	Posted - 2014.01.06 06:59:00 - [22] - Quote Considering that the majority of players have switched to this weapon should, on it's own, indicate an imbalance. Even the auto-scramble riffle users have switched.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1480	Posted - 2014.01.06 11:07:00 - [23] - Quote I've said it a million times that as range goes up DPS should go down, that's why these weapons are "OP" because they have great DPS and great range. Disagree on the sniper comment though. Easy mode = charged or thales.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 303	Posted - 2014.01.06 11:27:00 - [24] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: I've said it a million times that as range goes up DPS should go down, that's why these weapons are "OP" because they have great DPS and great range. Disagree on the sniper comment though. Easy mode = charged or thales. That's my point indeed . Those guns have both range and DPS and most weapons besides the SR don't have both , it's either or but these have the total package and are in a class above all else . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 252	Posted - 2014.01.06 18:10:00 - [25] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen . Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ??? Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment . Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill . That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort . Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job . CR is really too much powerful i agree. I never seen a weapon morep owerful than that. STD version is already more powerful than Proto other weapons. It need a nerf on damage or RoF. People say it have a little mag while it's the 2nd bigger mag of the rifles.....(54) It fires so fast than it empty 54 bullet in 2 sec and lamost 40-45 on them on the target even if he move..... 54 x 32 = LOT OF DAMAGE. And burst makes it easier to spam ...... (I tried almost all the Light weapon on my commando at pro level at least.) RR damage output are not OP at all. Seems pretty nice but not OP. Less damage will make it obsolete. More recoil too. Just a longer "charge up" and it's REALLY balanced : 0.5sec will be better.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 900	Posted - 2014.01.06 18:32:00 - [26] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction. I could definitely go for this. Though I think all weapons need closer to a 30% damage reduction. ;) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 304	Posted - 2014.01.06 19:57:00 - [27] - Quote People talk about TTK but if the DPS was adjusted and lowered on just the SR , SP , CR and I can agree with Mordecai about the RR and that's why I said that I was prob being bias by being Caldari and all but in CQC the RR is kind of in effective so that gun actually has a downfall , it's easier to knock HP's down when someone charges but in CQC a sidearm is mandatory with the use of a RR . 30 % might be a little too much but it also could be the magic percentage but it has to be more than 10% . 10% in the skill bonus on items does nothing and isn't even really noticed so I know it has to me more than 10% . I really don't believe it's necessary with the Gali AR because of the range reduction that was administered or on all weapons , that would actually hurt weapons like the Flaylock and the SMG , also the HMG and most others . Most of the other weapons are pretty fair in their performance but these changes must be done . It would help a lot and also cancel out the need to increase any suits HP count like some have suggested or dismiss the damage mods , which to me gets the blame for a lot of the problems that are caused by such high DPS on most of the AR's . The only problem that I have with the SP besides it's DPS is the fact that again it's one of those weapons that you don't even have to aim to record a head shot and logic would question how is that possible without even aiming . I have done that too many times myself and is the reason I don't even use that weapon . I don't need any unfair advantage and with some of the weapons and their glitches , it's quite easy to manipulate any since of reason . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 194	Posted - 2014.01.06 21:12:00 - [28] - Quote Man...I saw a guy last name named "190 Scout" and I has my ishukone rail rifle, point blank shooting him right in his face and his health didn't even attempt to move and he stood there while I shot him, waited until I had to reload and killed me in 1 shot with a militia assault rifle explain that.
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 659	Posted - 2014.01.06 21:45:00 - [29] - Quote HMG vs CR, the reason you died is quite obvious, the medium frame user moved and fired while you just rotated turret style or sidestepped and forgot to bring a LOGI. A logi 9 times out of 10 will save you against a CR/RR/AR maybe the ASCR not sure though. The bottom line is that heavies are slow and make good targets, travel in a pack and you survive much longer. Also when I see a heavy I aim for the neck/head. One other thing is that if you ADS with an HMG or any other weapon you turn at a different rate (if thats what you set) so it could be less than 1/2 speed. LogiGod earns his pips
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 229	Posted - 2014.01.06 21:55:00 - [30] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Ralden Caster wrote: What may have happened is that CCP probably forgot to make the Combat Rifle "bounce" when you fire it like the tactical and burst assault rifles do. Could be . You might be on to something there . jump, before you hit the ground keep shooting CR that bounce? I use a tablet so beware of typos

Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 13	Posted - 2014.01.07 02:19:00 - [31] - Quote CR totally OP. See on YT what six kin CR does, it's insane! All CR are shooting too fast.. AR I think is in a good place right now, definitely weaker than CR.. RR also OP, has a long range and big damage even without proficiency skills it is way too strong.. I'm not sure what, but something has to be done about it.. SR is also very powerful and a little nerfing should be considered.. Just saying..
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 306	Posted - 2014.01.07 03:15:00 - [32] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: HMG vs CR, the reason you died is quite obvious, the medium frame user moved and fired while you just rotated turret style or sidestepped and forgot to bring a LOGI. You must have missed the part where I said , " toe to toe " and that usually means where both stands in place . They had far less HP's then I and also didn't have a logi themselves where I had twice the amount of HP so like I said before , " you do the math ." If it wasn't a problem I would have even written this , I would have chalked it up as , that person just being better than me but to have it happen on a con current basis shows that there is something wrong . You people who would like to get rid of damage mods and increase the over all HP's of suits without addressing the DPS of certain weapons , would just like to skate around the obvious and that is , the DPS of these weapons are just far too high . Let's help increase the true competitive nature of this game and stop trying to hide behind the WOTM . All of you that have been padding your numbers threw these glitch type weapons and proudly pounding your chest like you have accomplished something , need a serious wake up call because you know that it's the weapon and not you yourself that is bringing about these results . Going 40 / 0 , 55 / 0 and other outrageous numbers while using these bugged items and your modded controllers will have a truly needed intervention by the community , where we will sit you down and help you to understand the error of your ways and the fact that you like to boast about taken advantage of a noted flaw to make yourself seem like you are great . It's coming , your time is coming where you will touch ground again and the REAL players of this game will be waiting in anticipation for you . Time to go to rehab and get straight . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 306	Posted - 2014.01.07 03:19:00 - [33] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Man...I saw a guy last name named "190 Scout" and I has my ishukone rail rifle, point blank shooting him right in his face and his health didn't even attempt to move and he stood there while I shot him, waited until I had to reload and killed me in 1 shot with a militia assault rifle explain that. Hit detection is a well know problem and it doesn't justify this topic at all . People need to stop looking for excuses and fix what is broken . I've had similar occasions happen to me while I was sniping and on the ground . The topic of hit detection needs to be addressed as well so hopefully they will do both at the same time and we will all notice how much better this game would have become . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 22	Posted - 2014.01.08 02:48:00 - [34] - Quote Also, the rail rifle's spool-up is a joke. Make it like a 5-second charge-up to reduce spam. Assault rifles otherwise will have no place on the battlefield. And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 314	Posted - 2014.01.08 02:49:00 - [35] - Quote Ralden Caster wrote: Also, the rail rifle's spool-up is a joke. Make it like a 5-second charge-up to reduce spam. Assault rifles otherwise will have no place on the battlefield. Could be ... could be . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 315	Posted - 2014.01.08 03:25:00 - [36] - Quote i somewhat agree with this post, the CR is far too powerful in close/medium when using hipfire, i never have to AIM, i just line up one timer per target and strafe while furiously spamming R1, i just let the aim assist do all the work, theres no point even using the scope since you are more accurate with hipfire even at 50ish metres, the only time i ever lose a duel within 50 metres is if a heavy gets the drop on me and i take too long to turn, or if i encounter a proto stacking damage mods tldr, turn off aim assist and perhaps lower RoF with the CR and it should be ballanced
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 321	Posted - 2014.01.08 03:27:00 - [37] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: i somewhat agree with this post, the CR is far too powerful in close/medium when using hipfire, i never have to AIM, i just line up one timer per target and strafe while furiously spamming R1, i just let the aim assist do all the work, theres no point even using the scope since you are more accurate with hipfire even at 50ish metres, the only time i ever lose a duel within 50 metres is if a heavy gets the drop on me and i take too long to turn, or if i encounter a proto stacking damage mods tldr, turn off aim assist and perhaps lower RoF with the CR and it should be ballanced I have watched players kill two and three of the enemy in succession without reloading the clip . I mean it was like watching pins fall while bowling ( I love bowling ) and I could do nothing but watch in amazement . Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .


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