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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
299
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Posted - 2014.01.06 01:59:00 -
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This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen .
Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ???
Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment .
Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill .
That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort .
Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
299
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:04:00 -
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And NO people I was not taking fire from ANYWHERE or ANYONE ELSE , so throw that out along with any smart comments that I'm sure you have .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
8
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:04:00 -
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What may have happened is that CCP probably forgot to make the Combat Rifle "bounce" when you fire it like the tactical and burst assault rifles do.
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
8
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:05:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:And NO people I was not taking fire from ANYWHERE or ANYONE ELSE , so throw that out along with any smart comments that I'm sure you have . Wow, already expecting the worst-case scenario much?
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
299
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:08:00 -
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Ralden Caster wrote:What may have happened is that CCP probably forgot to make the Combat Rifle "bounce" when you fire it like the tactical and burst assault rifles do.
Could be . You might be on to something there .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
8
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:09:00 -
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Scouts also need some love. Imagine how they are faring, trying to get into shotgun range with those new rifles spam-firing at them.
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
299
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:13:00 -
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Ralden Caster wrote:Scouts also need some love. Imagine how they are faring, trying to get into shotgun range with those new rifles spam-firing at them.
I know right , they have both damage and range , normally a weapon has one trait not the full package . No other weapon besides the SR can claim that coupled with the fact that you can just shoot and it's done , no effort at all ... spray and pray but you don't have to pray that hard because they will be dead before you finish the first sentence of Our Father .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
10
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:23:00 -
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The only possible drawback I can see with the new rifles is rather abstract; In faction warfare, you would have to watch your fire carefully, as you could really hurt someone with that thing!
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
10
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:25:00 -
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Also I have proposed a fix to the scouts as well: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133907&find=unread
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
10
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:26:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ralden Caster wrote:Scouts also need some love. Imagine how they are faring, trying to get into shotgun range with those new rifles spam-firing at them. I know right , they have both damage and range , normally a weapon has one trait not the full package . No other weapon besides the SR can claim that coupled with the fact that you can just shoot and it's done , no effort at all ... spray and pray but you don't have to pray that hard because they will be dead before you finish the first sentence of Our Father . It's more like spray and be the devil.
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
10
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:28:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen .
Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ???
Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment .
Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill .
That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort .
Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job . Being killed by the new rifles as a heavy? I hear ya. Last time I was on, it happened for the twentieth time.
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
301
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:32:00 -
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Dam . So I'm sure that being a part time heavy is better than being a full time heavy with these guns around . I'm sure the full timers have it hard .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
12
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:43:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Dam . So I'm sure that being a part time heavy is better than being a full time heavy with these guns around . I'm sure the full timers have it hard . It ticks me off so bad, especially since it was in 1.7 that I had finally had enough SP to unlock the use of prototype Sentinels just for them to become useless.
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
12
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Posted - 2014.01.06 02:58:00 -
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A bit off topic, but in the forum topic I had made about scouts not taking fall damage, how can I change the name of the topic? I want it changed to make it seem more appealing.
And now the Forge Gun is little more than a dust collector, no pun intended.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
302
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:09:00 -
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Ralden Caster wrote:A bit off topic, but in the forum topic I had made about scouts not taking fall damage, how can I change the name of the topic? I want it changed to make it seem more appealing.
Don't know that one , I'm sure the fact that you even asked , someone will come along with the right answer .
I apologize that I can't help you on that one .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
290
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:15:00 -
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I'm imagining a basic heavy with a basic hmg.... Unless you skilled into heavy suits to run your sniper on? |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
302
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:18:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:I'm imagining a basic heavy with a basic hmg.... Unless you skilled into heavy suits to run your sniper on?
Of course you would . Try a MH-82 .
I work hard for what I have .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
302
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:20:00 -
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What if I had a prototype suit on it would be alright ??? My shields and armor is maxed out . That's maxed and my core is dam near so what's your point ???
If I had on a proto heavy then it would have been a problem ... how sad . A problem is a problem regardless .
You people LOVE to nit pick .
On that suit armor 782 , shields 543 . You do the math , with a complex armor / repairer on it .
When the suits come out I will be a Caldari heavy for sure .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
323
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Posted - 2014.01.06 03:53:00 -
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All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction.
Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
303
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:23:00 -
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zibathy numbertwo wrote:All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction.
I second that one for the AR's . I understand about the 10% as well .
Got my vote .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
397
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:29:00 -
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zibathy numbertwo wrote:All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction.
The laser needs a 10% reduction?
The mass driver needs a 10% reduction?
The plasma cannon needs any kind of nerf at all?
Nope, sorry.
The rifles do need a 20-30% damage nerf though, and perhaps some added dispersion. |
Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
187
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:59:00 -
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Considering that the majority of players have switched to this weapon should, on it's own, indicate an imbalance.
Even the auto-scramble riffle users have switched. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1480
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Posted - 2014.01.06 11:07:00 -
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I've said it a million times that as range goes up DPS should go down, that's why these weapons are "OP" because they have great DPS and great range.
Disagree on the sniper comment though. Easy mode = charged or thales. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
303
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Posted - 2014.01.06 11:27:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:I've said it a million times that as range goes up DPS should go down, that's why these weapons are "OP" because they have great DPS and great range.
Disagree on the sniper comment though. Easy mode = charged or thales.
That's my point indeed . Those guns have both range and DPS and most weapons besides the SR don't have both , it's either or but these have the total package and are in a class above all else .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
252
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:10:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:This is the third time this has happened , Having an HMG with a complex damage mod on it and I get killed by a CR at point blank range , granted it was a boundless , just like the other two times but to cut threw over 1100 Hp's without reloading , standing point blank range and yes they might have had damage mods on their fit as well as having maxed out that particular tree branch but this should not happen .
Not so much the RR but maybe because of my bias being Caldari and all but the CR is a joke the way that it is right now and the fact that most of the community has gravitated toward these two weapons should lead you to wonder CCP , are these two guns OP ???
Now they might not be OP but that damage output should be adjusted . I'm not even going to get on the scrambler rifle but you should take a serious look at all of the AR 's CCP because these guns are broken and in need of an adjustment .
Now for you scrubs with your smart comments and all , you don't even have to aim your weapon in this game and I'm not even talking about Robo Aim Assist , but the fact that you can hip fire and kill someone without compensating in terms of ANY adjustments range , terrain , movement or otherwise so keep your " get good " comments because if most of you had to aim your weapons most of you would not do as good as you think you are . That's another thing CCP should look into the fact that the weapons matric on this game is comical and you can kill someone with practically zero effort and zero aiming , just shoot and it's done and that's a joke and for all the skill this and skill point that , that area of this game is a joke because that requires NO skill .
That's why snipers should be more respected , WE ARE THE ONLY ONES that actually have to put forth ANY effort to get a kill , the rest of you do NOTHING BUT SHOOT IN THE DIRECTION and that goes for the CR and the RR too even though they have scopes ( don't know why ) it takes NO effort at all , so keep fooling yourself people , that part of the game as well as the damage output of the AR's are a joke . NO thinking and NO effort .
Please look into this CCP , you can even check the You Tube video's , people make them for a reason and more than likely it's to help you do your job .
CR is really too much powerful i agree. I never seen a weapon morep owerful than that. STD version is already more powerful than Proto other weapons. It need a nerf on damage or RoF. People say it have a little mag while it's the 2nd bigger mag of the rifles.....(54) It fires so fast than it empty 54 bullet in 2 sec and lamost 40-45 on them on the target even if he move..... 54 x 32 = LOT OF DAMAGE. And burst makes it easier to spam ...... (I tried almost all the Light weapon on my commando at pro level at least.)
RR damage output are not OP at all. Seems pretty nice but not OP. Less damage will make it obsolete. More recoil too. Just a longer "charge up" and it's REALLY balanced : 0.5sec will be better. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
900
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:32:00 -
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zibathy numbertwo wrote:All weapons need a 10% damage reduction. All rifles need 15-20% reduction.
I could definitely go for this. Though I think all weapons need closer to a 30% damage reduction. ;)
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:57:00 -
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People talk about TTK but if the DPS was adjusted and lowered on just the SR , SP , CR and I can agree with Mordecai about the RR and that's why I said that I was prob being bias by being Caldari and all but in CQC the RR is kind of in effective so that gun actually has a downfall , it's easier to knock HP's down when someone charges but in CQC a sidearm is mandatory with the use of a RR . 30 % might be a little too much but it also could be the magic percentage but it has to be more than 10% . 10% in the skill bonus on items does nothing and isn't even really noticed so I know it has to me more than 10% .
I really don't believe it's necessary with the Gali AR because of the range reduction that was administered or on all weapons , that would actually hurt weapons like the Flaylock and the SMG , also the HMG and most others .
Most of the other weapons are pretty fair in their performance but these changes must be done . It would help a lot and also cancel out the need to increase any suits HP count like some have suggested or dismiss the damage mods , which to me gets the blame for a lot of the problems that are caused by such high DPS on most of the AR's .
The only problem that I have with the SP besides it's DPS is the fact that again it's one of those weapons that you don't even have to aim to record a head shot and logic would question how is that possible without even aiming . I have done that too many times myself and is the reason I don't even use that weapon . I don't need any unfair advantage and with some of the weapons and their glitches , it's quite easy to manipulate any since of reason .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
194
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Posted - 2014.01.06 21:12:00 -
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Man...I saw a guy last name named "190 Scout" and I has my ishukone rail rifle, point blank shooting him right in his face and his health didn't even attempt to move and he stood there while I shot him, waited until I had to reload and killed me in 1 shot with a militia assault rifle
explain that. |
Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
659
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Posted - 2014.01.06 21:45:00 -
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HMG vs CR, the reason you died is quite obvious, the medium frame user moved and fired while you just rotated turret style or sidestepped and forgot to bring a LOGI. A logi 9 times out of 10 will save you against a CR/RR/AR maybe the ASCR not sure though. The bottom line is that heavies are slow and make good targets, travel in a pack and you survive much longer. Also when I see a heavy I aim for the neck/head. One other thing is that if you ADS with an HMG or any other weapon you turn at a different rate (if thats what you set) so it could be less than 1/2 speed.
LogiGod earns his pips
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
229
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Posted - 2014.01.06 21:55:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ralden Caster wrote:What may have happened is that CCP probably forgot to make the Combat Rifle "bounce" when you fire it like the tactical and burst assault rifles do. Could be . You might be on to something there . jump, before you hit the ground keep shooting CR that bounce?
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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