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DrDoktor PiZzA DuDeS 34	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:52:00 - [1] - Quote In light of a somewhat recent topic, I remembered when I was creating my character; painstakingly examining each faction and sub faction to figure what traits to give me persona. Only to find that did mean jack SH@% ! Seriously it could be as simple as Blah da blarg are proficient with machinery. Well then have equipment based skill require less SP or less PC and CPU. Could even make the buffs slightly better. Something more drastic would be changing the mechanics of play. I've said this before those who have a background in some judo or whatever could have a bonus of stunning a player if they successfully pull of a melee from behind. Doesn't have to be an urgent change but I think it's something we expected when we first with through or character creation process. Unless I'm alone in all this which in that case @#$# All y'all
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1323	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:58:00 - [2] - Quote DrDoktor wrote: @#$# All y'all No, @#$# you.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1451	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:02:00 - [3] - Quote Umm, so what about all the caldari using amarr suits, what about all the minnie using the caldari suits? Your race is your heritage, your bloodline your legacy, it doesn't need it. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 4042	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:03:00 - [4] - Quote We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1129	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:06:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. Gallente OP they have the best starter fits WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7490	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:07:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. I prefer it this way. Although, it'd be nice if starter suits had racial weapons. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1129	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:12:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. I prefer it this way. Although, it'd be nice if starter suits had racial weapons. That would make me so jelly of like all the other races, Minmatar and Cladari especially. Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault Forum warrior lvl 1
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2685	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:17:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. The only longterm impact is that it dictates my MQ, which I am getting quite bored of by the way.
Patrick57 3620	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:32:00 - [9] - Quote DrDoktor wrote: In light of a somewhat recent topic, I remembered when I was creating my character; painstakingly examining each faction and sub faction to figure what traits to give me persona. Only to find that did mean jack SH@% ! Seriously it could be as simple as Blah da blarg are proficient with machinery. Well then have equipment based skill require less SP or less PC and CPU. Could even make the buffs slightly better. Something more drastic would be changing the mechanics of play. I've said this before those who have a background in some judo or whatever could have a bonus of stunning a player if they successfully pull of a melee from behind. Doesn't have to be an urgent change but I think it's something we expected when we first with through or character creation process. Unless I'm alone in all this which in that case @#$# All y'all What? Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
SHANN da MAN D3LTA FORC3 149	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:53:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. Speaking of Starter Fits ... Now that we have each Race's Basic Weapon in the game, don't you think it's about time you Updated the Starter Fits to include a MLT variant of each Race's Basic Weapon ? nothing to see here ... move along

Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1834	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:13:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. As was the case originally with eve giving different races slightly different starting skills. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Lucrezia LeGrand 165	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:32:00 - [12] - Quote I think this is great. Why have the option to choose different bloodlines? Because by picking and choosing your character to be the one you want you are becoming more invested in that character. Why offer body customization options in MMO's? Or skin colors? Or hair color/styles, voices, clothing options etc.? Because not everything has to be about making you better in game, some can be about who you want to be. I love the racial lines right now and feel like they're an important part of my Dust merc even though they do "nothing." Now, I'm looking forward to when CCP adds vanity color schemes to our suits. ^-^
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1255	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:40:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Although, it'd be nice if starter suits had racial weapons. ^this Also, i would like to have all 3 frames as starter fits when all suits will be released. "Our Blueberries are better than yours" *My Terribad Bolas Launcher*
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:43:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. So much for "we want people to actually pick up the game and not give up in frustration". I can understand choosing a race, kind of. It's cosmetical. But why the hell are there sub-factions? They literally do not appear in the game outside of character creation.
Sgt Buttscratch 1246	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:52:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. In order to become OP one must skill in.. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2137	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:13:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. blood lines do NOT affect your starter fits starter fits do NOT effect starting weapons many skills do nothing
Hyborean Strain Immortal Guides 8	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:56:00 - [17] - Quote The subfactions are part of the greater Eve lore. It's just a context thing so you can pick a group that you prefer. Also, it's very good that the races don't have any differences other than cosmetic. In Eve for the longest time the Caldari were the preferred race by players because they started the game with a few skills related to missiles, which are the best weapons for PVE purposes. It was just the barest advantage, a difference of maybe 4-5 days of training at the most, but people would just go for Caldari again and again. And ofcourse with that slight advantage came the hundreds of histrionic "OP race/ships/shoes" threads. Dust doesn't need that.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2558	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:06:00 - [18] - Quote I thought he was talking about the other thing If you were in Beta you would remember the Artificer, Arbiter, Sentinel, and what-ever class had the AR and nanohives. Arbiters had sniper rifles unlocked and a little towards scouts and gear. Artificers had unlocked repair tools and basic SMG if I remember Sentinels had unlocked forge gun (or was it HMG?) I don't know but remember those things? Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 994	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:28:00 - [19] - Quote DrDoktor wrote: In light of a somewhat recent topic, I remembered when I was creating my character; painstakingly examining each faction and sub faction to figure what traits to give me persona. Only to find that did mean jack SH@% ! Seriously it could be as simple as Blah da blarg are proficient with machinery. Well then have equipment based skill require less SP or less PC and CPU. Could even make the buffs slightly better. Something more drastic would be changing the mechanics of play. I've said this before those who have a background in some judo or whatever could have a bonus of stunning a player if they successfully pull of a melee from behind. Doesn't have to be an urgent change but I think it's something we expected when we first with through or character creation process. Unless I'm alone in all this which in that case @#$# All y'all EVE originally had this. You know what happened? Everybody rolled Caldari Achura and flew Ravens and Drakes. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
mollerz Minja Scouts 1587	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:05:00 - [20] - Quote I think there are a couple things with regards to character backgrounds that could be included to help flesh out characters and wouldn't alter any power balances. One would be to include a player written background (like in Eve) where other players can look at other player's characters and read what they put in. Another is to start a player off at level 2 standings in the race they pick. Just small things like that go a long way to add immersive elements without making anyone or any one faction OP. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 527	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:47:00 - [21] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I thought he was talking about the other thing If you were in Beta you would remember the Artificer, Arbiter, Sentinel, and what-ever class had the AR and nanohives. Arbiters had sniper rifles unlocked and a little towards scouts and gear. Artificers had unlocked repair tools and basic SMG if I remember Sentinels had unlocked forge gun (or was it HMG?) I don't know but remember those things? They don't have that anymore? LOL shows I haven't made a character since Beta
DrDoktor PiZzA DuDeS 43	Posted - 2014.01.05 21:49:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. Fair enough. Would probably devolve into something exploited. Haven't partaken in EvE and didn't realize it was tried already. The process does dictate which starter fit and merc pad your player resides and creating a balanced base would help ease into this shooter as it's different from others.
TunRa NEW OMENS 332	Posted - 2014.01.05 22:01:00 - [23] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: I thought he was talking about the other thing If you were in Beta you would remember the Artificer, Arbiter, Sentinel, and what-ever class had the AR and nanohives. Arbiters had sniper rifles unlocked and a little towards scouts and gear. Artificers had unlocked repair tools and basic SMG if I remember Sentinels had unlocked forge gun (or was it HMG?) I don't know but remember those things? They don't have that anymore? LOL shows I haven't made a character since Beta It was in the patch noted for 1.0 Thanks CCP Foxfour
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1477	Posted - 2014.01.05 22:03:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. Then please let us change our race and bloodline at one point. I picked Caldari when I started cause it was the first choice on the screen. Now that I understand more in the game, I wanna RP as a Minmatar, but this dumb Caldari portrait is messing it up Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1592	Posted - 2014.01.05 22:25:00 - [25] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: We specifically have the different races and bloodlines not have any major gameplay effect so that people are not inclined to pick one because it's the "OP" race. It is for the most part a purely aesthetic and lore based choice. The only thing it does in DUST is dictate what race your starter fit suits are (with some fitting differences due to the different slot layouts. Then please let us change our race and bloodline at one point. I picked Caldari when I started cause it was the first choice on the screen. Now that I understand more in the game, I wanna RP as a Minmatar, but this dumb Caldari portrait is messing it up I agree. It was impossible to see Minjas on the horizon, and that would easily be the race I'd pick to keep everything in line if I made my character today. Given the player base has a far better idea as to what is what, it would add an immediate depth to the game and it's players that doesn't exist now by letting us re-race (does that work lol?) our toons. Factional warfare would become a lot more fleshed out. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3105	Posted - 2014.01.05 23:06:00 - [26] - Quote On that note, I'd like to give a shout out to my old post about adding a MLT Scrambler Rifle to the game to fit on Amarr Starter fits (merely adding PG consumption to a STD wouldn't work because the MLT suits wouldn't have the PG to fit the rifle as-is). With FW in full-swing, there's also that "getting citizenship" through FW idea where high standings could provide a means of changing your portrait/quarters/starter fits or what-not. Join my cult.
Paladin Sas Pro Hic Immortalis 280	Posted - 2014.01.05 23:26:00 - [27] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: On that note, I'd like to give a shout out to my old post about adding a MLT Scrambler Rifle to the game to fit on Amarr Starter fits (merely adding PG consumption to a STD wouldn't work because the MLT suits wouldn't have the PG to fit the rifle as-is). With FW in full-swing, there's also that "getting citizenship" through FW idea where high standings could provide a means of changing your portrait/quarters/starter fits or what-not. i would like to expand this idea and suggest that all teh racial starter fits come equiped with a racial mlt rifle, just to boraden peoples ideas about the game
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 88	Posted - 2014.01.06 00:24:00 - [28] - Quote How about a small, but noticeable, increase in faction standing gain for the race that you choose to come from? Nothing game breaking, but a little "perk" for being a native and fighting for the Home Cause. Dedicated Commando. So it's a good job KDR doesn't bother me, really.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.01.06 10:57:00 - [29] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: How about a small, but noticeable, increase in faction standing gain for the race that you choose to come from? Nothing game breaking, but a little "perk" for being a native and fighting for the Home Cause. An interesting thing could be faction-based MMO environments. From your merc quarters, you'd be able to go through the doors and enter an area dependant on which faction you chose. You'd meet all the other players of that faction in that area. The bloodline would also have some kind of influence. The second door would lead to corp environments. The faction-specific environments would have functions depending on faction. Like, Minmatar could have knife fights or something, where you can pay for a few clones and then use them in duels.
Lorhak Gannarsein 1136	Posted - 2014.01.06 11:46:00 - [30] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I thought he was talking about the other thing If you were in Beta you would remember the Artificer, Arbiter, Sentinel, and what-ever class had the AR and nanohives. Arbiters had sniper rifles unlocked and a little towards scouts and gear. Artificers had unlocked repair tools and basic SMG if I remember Sentinels had unlocked forge gun (or was it HMG?) I don't know but remember those things? I miss my Dire Sentinel :( PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)

DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 180	Posted - 2014.01.06 12:11:00 - [31] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: An interesting thing could be faction-based MMO environments. From your merc quarters, you'd be able to go through the doors and enter an area dependant on which faction you chose. You'd meet all the other players of that faction in that area. The bloodline would also have some kind of influence. The second door would lead to corp environments. Oh, someone dreaming of the door, how sweet...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1511	Posted - 2014.01.06 12:19:00 - [32] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: I thought he was talking about the other thing If you were in Beta you would remember the Artificer, Arbiter, Sentinel, and what-ever class had the AR and nanohives. Arbiters had sniper rifles unlocked and a little towards scouts and gear. Artificers had unlocked repair tools and basic SMG if I remember Sentinels had unlocked forge gun (or was it HMG?) I don't know but remember those things? I miss my Dire Sentinel :( Me too! That's actually why I started to use this character (my 4th) as my main: for the free Forge gun suit. That ruled. See, for those who don't know, back in beta, tanks were OP so... Oh wait. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!


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