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IM-JUST TO-FAT
Blauhelme Die Fremdenlegion
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:10:00 -
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now that im skilled into the mk.0 for quite some time, i can say that the minmatar assault dropsuits need some change! I just dont understand how its beneficial in any way if u compare it with the caldari assaults...even though it has 5 high-slots, it doesnt reach the caldariis shield HP of around 580 because u can only get 550 HP with max shield-skills and 5 complex extenders. The speed of it is 0.3 m/s higher than other medium sized suites and the 2 low slot are almost useless because u have to fit at least 1 cpu upgradeto fit the suit's high-slot properly. im not asking for a buff. im asking for change of slot-design and skills. maybe a dual tank-ability like the min logi has with its 4/4 design. please ccp, give some love to the rusties! |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
435
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:23:00 -
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Agreed, I have both Min and Cal assault proto suits. The Minmatar is at it's best with the Six Kin assault combat rifle equipped in cqc. But you still have to run a cpu upgrade in one of the low's. I can fit my Caldari suit anyway I want with any weapon I want and sacrifice nothing.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
1828
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:26:00 -
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As i stated in another thread, they need to swap slot layouts and min should get a regulator bonus to fit its supposed hit and run playstyle
Bittervet Proficiency V
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IM-JUST TO-FAT
Blauhelme Die Fremdenlegion
54
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:As i stated in another thread, they need to swap slot layouts and min should get a regulator bonus to fit its supposed hit and run playstyle
That would be a good way to put it. The movement should be one of its biggest strenghts |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1449
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:33:00 -
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How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.
Tanks 514
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2506
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:35:00 -
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lol @ Minmatar assaults. They make pretty good logis though.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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IM-JUST TO-FAT
Blauhelme Die Fremdenlegion
55
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:39:00 -
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[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
470
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:41:00 -
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But CCP logic states that minmatar shall always be inherintly bad for the sake of .3 m/s!
Rusty recharge system: CHECK. Rusty shield capacitors: CHECK. Rusty slot-swapper conversion kit: CHECK. Rusty base HP modifiers: CHECK
What do we get in return? Loss of a few plates of armor: CHECK Duct tape of 1 strand per hour: CHECK Duct tape and saw for Smg clips: CHECK
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
470
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:45:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it. Do you even know what you stated? Minmatar is good at brick tanking, so stop brick tanking.
Also, shield extenders are the lowest Complex level CPU drain, yet we still require CPU mods to fit those. So tell me o' master of fiting for minmatar: how the **** do we fit our suits IN ALL COMPLEX, without needing CPU mods?
Under 28db
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1449
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:49:00 -
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IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0?
Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment.
Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1449
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:50:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it. Do you even know what you stated? Minmatar is good at brick tanking, so stop brick tanking. Also, shield extenders are the lowest Complex level CPU drain, yet we still require CPU mods to fit those. So tell me o' master of fiting for minmatar: how the **** do we fit our suits IN ALL COMPLEX, without needing CPU mods?
bricktanking != dual tanking Why do you need to go all complex?
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
470
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:50:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. THAT'S A ******* LOGISTICS. Dipshit we're speaking MINMATAR ASSAULT. Leave this forum and never reply again.
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
470
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:51:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it. Do you even know what you stated? Minmatar is good at brick tanking, so stop brick tanking. Also, shield extenders are the lowest Complex level CPU drain, yet we still require CPU mods to fit those. So tell me o' master of fiting for minmatar: how the **** do we fit our suits IN ALL COMPLEX, without needing CPU mods? bricktanking != dual tanking Why do you need to go all complex? Because Amarr can, Caldari can, Gallente can.
What ******* logic states my min assault should be different?
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1449
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:52:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. THAT'S A ******* LOGISTICS. Dipshit we're speaking MINMATAR ASSAULT. Leave this forum and never reply again.
Really 4H 3L 1EQ 1Light Weapon 1 SIDEARM
Tanks 514
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Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
150
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:54:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. How do you have 4 highs and 3 lows on an Assault mk.0? |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1449
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:55:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it. Do you even know what you stated? Minmatar is good at brick tanking, so stop brick tanking. Also, shield extenders are the lowest Complex level CPU drain, yet we still require CPU mods to fit those. So tell me o' master of fiting for minmatar: how the **** do we fit our suits IN ALL COMPLEX, without needing CPU mods? bricktanking != dual tanking Why do you need to go all complex? Because Amarr can, Caldari can, Gallente can. What ******* logic states my min assault should be different?
AMARR is supposed to brick tank Gallente doesn't have the oomph without damage modifiers Caldari is rather broke, prehaps giving amarr an armour stacking rebuke to make caldari too slow.
Tanks 514
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1449
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:58:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. How do you have 4 highs and 3 lows on an Assault mk.0?
Pretty Sure I do, let me check, the mk.0 hasn't been out for a while Ive being using the mk.1 to keep costs down.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3101
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Posted - 2014.01.05 00:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. THAT'S A ******* LOGISTICS. Dipshit we're speaking MINMATAR ASSAULT. Leave this forum and never reply again. Really 4H 3L 1EQ 1Light Weapon 1 SIDEARM The Minmatar Assault has two lows and 5 highs.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
471
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:00:00 -
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Mac must be truly be high or something, or he's genuinely a truck driver named Mac who is also part monkey, because he's spewing nonsensical bullshit right now.
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
471
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:03:00 -
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Also, who's to state that the 'only workable fitting' for min assault should be EXACTLY one fitting?
Gallente assault could stack kinetics and shield extenders, and still be fine. Amarr DOES stack shields and biotics WHILE STILL BEING VIABLE. Caldari assault puts the minmatar scout to shame, while at the same time being able to brick tank 1187 HP, with 35 shield regen. Minmatar assault can... Make a slightly beefy min scout, while also costing more?
ONE PERSON- make a fitting on minassault, that isn't directly outshined by a caldari assault or gallente assault. Be aware, as Mac has forced me to tell people, 5 HIGHS AND 2 LOWS. Don't be saying it's fine if you havn't used it in 4 months, as that invalidates your statements.
Under 28db
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1442
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:06:00 -
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IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:now that im skilled into the mk.0 for quite some time, i can say that the minmatar assault dropsuits need some change! I just dont understand how its beneficial in any way if u compare it with the caldari assaults...even though it has 5 high-slots, it doesnt reach the caldariis shield HP of around 580 because u can only get 550 HP with max shield-skills and 5 complex extenders. The speed of it is 0.3 m/s higher than other medium sized suites and the 2 low slot are almost useless because u have to fit at least 1 cpu upgradeto fit the suit's high-slot properly. im not asking for a buff. im asking for change of slot-design and skills. maybe a dual tank-ability like the min logi has with its 4/4 design. please ccp, give some love to the rusties!
Just tonight I discovered an amazing fitting for it, but im not telling you :) but my 30k isk minmatar suit is getting me games with like 15-2, 19-3, 19-0, and my personal favorite 10-0 (while the rest of my team got spanked by tank spam).
This fit opened my eyes to a whole new way to play the suit! Its simply amazing!
Marston VC, STB Director
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
150
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:06:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:[quote=Monkey MAC]How about dropping one of extenders for something a little less power intensive. The assault suit works just fine as a dual-tanker, stop trying to brick tank it.[/quo
Do you have a mk.0? Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. How do you have 4 highs and 3 lows on an Assault mk.0? Pretty Sure I do, let me check, the mk.0 hasn't been out for a while Ive being using the m/1 to keep costs down. Leave, now.
We're trying to have a productive discussion, we don't need scum like you getting in the way of it. Save the BS for when we actually have a properly working game, otherwise there won't be a Dust 514 for much longer. |
Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1450
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote:
Do you have a mk.0?
Yes, I run 2 shield extenders an energizer and damage mod in high, a plate, repper and kincat in low, paired with a Mass Driver, Flux grenades and a car-9 burst scrambler pistol. with RE as equipment. Its light on its feet, quick on the regen and makes for a PERFECT flanker. Much prefer it over my Caldari Suit. THAT'S A ******* LOGISTICS. Dipshit we're speaking MINMATAR ASSAULT. Leave this forum and never reply again. Really 4H 3L 1EQ 1Light Weapon 1 SIDEARM The Minmatar Assault has two lows and 5 highs, you DSOB.
Yes Indeed my apologies, I had the two merged into a mega suit. My minnie assault mk.0
I have one miltia extender, an energizer a damage mod and some more extenders, on the low I have a reactive plate and a kincat. My apologies on getting my suits mixed up.
But my stance still stands it works lovely for me. P.S im not high, but I may have an extra beer or two with my meal tonight.
Tanks 514
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
220
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:07:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:But CCP logic states that minmatar shall always be inherintly bad for the sake of .3 m/s!
Rusty recharge system: CHECK. Rusty shield capacitors: CHECK. Rusty slot-swapper conversion kit: CHECK. Rusty base HP modifiers: CHECK
What do we get in return? Loss of a few plates of armor: CHECK Duct tape of 1 strand per hour: CHECK Duct tape and saw for Smg clips: CHECK
+1 hp/sec per armor (no other non-logi suit gets this) + stamina over base + base speed (no mod in game can increase this) + free kincat
-45 HP -2 hp/sec shield recharge rate
???
I am pretty sure this is a much better overall deal than the amarr get. -1 slot for 30 hp stamina/recovery for movement/sprint increased fittings for ridculously hard to fit weapons. ( you can take the extra CPU, it is useless.)
Why don't you QQ more about how you don't even have it the worst?
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
471
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:07:00 -
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So monkey mac fits militia on his proto assault, and states all is fine, let him be ignored!
Under 28db
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3102
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:10:00 -
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Mac... Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac... You have lost all credibility.
Something like love, something like hope. Something like beautiful, something I wrote GùòGÇ+Gå+
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1450
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:11:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:So monkey mac fits militia on his proto assault, and states all is fine, let him be ignored! Mass Driver, do you use it?
The power is going to tight, you shouldn't be able to go ALL complex, therefore your beef is not with the supposed uselessness of the minnie but the fitting power of the caldari and amarr.
Tanks 514
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
472
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:11:00 -
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The amarr can still fit All Proto mods, and a basic or enhanced equipment, along with proto weaponry and an enhanced or god forbid basic nade.
My minassaults have advanced weaponry, unless it's specialist Boundless, and NO NADES. Compact hive, an enhanced SMG, and 4 extenders(which are lower on CPU cost) along with an enhanced dmg mod, my lows are comprised of 1 enhanced shield regulator, and an Enhanced CPU.
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I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1450
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:12:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mac... Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac... You have lost all credibility.
Monkey, I prefer Monkey and its not like people listened to me anyway, I made a mistake it happens.
Tanks 514
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
472
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Posted - 2014.01.05 01:13:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:So monkey mac fits militia on his proto assault, and states all is fine, let him be ignored! Mass Driver, do you use it? The power is going to tight, you shouldn't be able to go ALL complex, therefore your beef is not with the supposed uselessness of the minnie but the fitting power of the caldari and amarr. As a matter of fact- yes. But it's comparitively useless to rail rifles and core locises. Also, tryin to state that 1 races' assault suit should be forced to use one specific weapon to be viable is flawed.
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