Tanks still feel too strong in 1.7 and AV is not strong enough to stop them - Thread | Thread
WeGÇÖll need to do something about MLT tanks. We will see to rebalance some PG/CPU for equipment and more. More details will come in a dev blog/forum post.

Tanks prices are the problem. There too good for there cost.

Increase prices so when i work to kill one, he can't afford to call in 3 more.

They said in the post you quoted that their either buffing av or nerfing all tanks and mlt tanks on top of that.

Reading comprehension.

Tanks are a major force on the battlefield.

Be honest, a tank can sway the battlefield alone FAAAAAAAAR more than a single dropsuit can.

It forces people to switch to AV, it displaces people, it DESTROYS people, it can take out turrets and other tanks.




That kind of force should be expensive.

But a tank should not be a solo takedown like it was , then infantery was running towards the tank to get there first to kill it, no one was affraid of it, it should take some team effort to kill it.

Tanks should require multiple av or another tank to counter. Or dropships. Or jets. Or mtacs.

But dust is a bad game.

If 1 infantry can solo tanks what is the point of a tank? You gain killing power and lose the ability to fight in cities and cap points. It's a trade off.

Tank prices should be doubled across the board.

The fact that you can call in two militia tanks per ambush, lose both of them, and still break even, is the main reason for tank spam.

The duration of all hardeners should be halved.

Force the pilots to use them sparingly and strategically instead of turning them on whenever they take an ounce of damage.

Both these changes would also force tanks to retreat more often making harassing AV a more effective role.

Coming from an AV guy, these are the only two changes tanks really need.

high prices also make it less spamable and make u take a risk.

sort of like a titan in EVE not everyone can buy it but it sure is powerful and still can be destroyed by other sources.

Here's the problem. Militia tanks/modules, large railguns, and tiericide for modules.

Want something in which you'll be nearly unkillable but bring death to infantry with zero investment? Soma.

Want something in which you'll be able to take out any vehicle with zero investment? Sica.

Want something that can kill vehicles at any range and still be effective against infantry? Railgun tank.

Blasters are not the problem. STD tanks are not the problem. Complex modules are not the problem. But everything above is.

Bring tiers back!

There is a reason why titans were nerfed pretty hard, because people like you thought the isk amount would prevent spammage. Do you know what happened? BoB just spammed doomsdays leveling entire fleets, and built tones of them.

Then the titan got nerfed and the supercarrier became the new FotM. Everyone and their mother got supercarriers as well because they were solopwn mobiles. Supercarriers got nerfed too.

I think everyone, including most tankers, want tanks in the game and I like that there are between 4-8 tanks per match. I just don't like how they have no hard counter.

1 player should ALWAYS be counterable by 1 player. This is the basis of balance.

Why does no one complain when some dude goes 40/0 every single game with his super proto medframe/rifle combo?

It makes it less spammable for the majority of the population. Other changes also need to be made to balance things out.

I hate tank spam more than anyone. tht's why u need to increase the price. because no matter what u do to a tank it will kill infantry. u want to know why. because it's a tank.

and tanks can be soloed by heavy AV easily.

a forge destroys tanks and if u can't kill a tank with one your just bad.

Light AV which is meant for Light vehicles - medium vehicles works good at tht. Even light AV does decent damage to tanks. i don't know what all the QQ over swarms is. i got hit by swarms tht did 2.5k damage per volley. obviously swarms are working as intended.

a breach forge with damage mods and hitng a crit spot on a tank can one shot it. yes it takes 1 shot to kill a tank with a breach forge. i confirmed it and tested it in a FW.

tanks are to cheap as of now. i mean 1 tank cost me 450k isk. with all proto on it. a milita tank cost 80k isk and is just as effective. Litearlly as all active mods are the same.

at the very least full proto tanks should be a mil. theres a reason it's called proto you shouldn't be able to afford it every match.

ISK needs to be part of the solution. You are using a strawman argument to defend keeping prices low. Yes, there are some players that can still afford spamming more expensive vehicles. Let me extend the line for you.

Tanks are now all free and fully fitted, placed in every player's fittings. Has spam improved? Just because some players can afford to do it anyway doesn't mean everyone should be able to spam them. No ****. There are players with enough money to spam anything. There will always be some aspects of Dust that are pay to win.

If prototype gear was free, you'd say it shouldn't be made expensive because there would still be players spamming it. If you don't like the resource management in Dust 514, then it's not the game for you, plain and simple. Some degree of accessibility needs to be removed, because the ultimate accessibility is free which leads to endless spam with no repercussions for ANYONE.