DUST Search - The Truth about STB Leadership, coming from their head FC/Director and Diplomat.

Roman837 wrote:

Why would I spend months building STB, countless hours/day/weeks online dedicated to FCing most of our PCs, I have diplomatic ties to most of the main players outside of PD, and INSIDE PD I always helped our alliance organize teams. If I wanted to betray STB because I was mad at the corp..I would have stollen their wallet, sold all their clones and booted their members. Instead, I sent a corp mail saying that there are leaders in the corp not doing their job and saying they can do mine..I called them out and said DO so.

Dubbs, your anology, is off. I was removed from corp for calling them out...in a leadership meeting. No vote from the corp. I wanted Ragewardog removed. He was doing a horrible job and the corruption ran thick. After being kicked,, what option did I have?

I hope that if you saw that a group of leaders in your corp were abusing your players, or if your directors saw that YOU were abusing your players, I hope, that they would step up and fight for their guys. Even if it ment you got removed. Its called integrity. Doing what's right, no matter who's around, and standing up for your guys even in your standing alone.

As for the truth...well, I've just been waiting for a STB director to step on his **** by calling me a liar on here..then I post ALL of the convos I have saved. They know better, I'm not lying. They would look pretty dam silly to call me out on this and lose all face. Some of the stuff is pretty damming, and I don't want it to come to posting it. What I want, is new players to avoid STB until a leadership change happens.

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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2567	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:45:00 - [61] - Quote Roman837 wrote: We had...over 30 districts online for a month and a half straight...when the payouts were larger, and...at one point, 600 members playing daily with 10percent tax. With the current districts and players we make 1500mill a day. I saw the wallet, I know its content. Remember, this is Ragewardog, and Sax Rage who brought up the accusations, I sent Quick the FB messages, so he knows I'm not making this up. STB....30 districts....ONLINE??? Not sure what game you've been playing... Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1588	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:47:00 - [62] - Quote For the brotherhood! http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2569	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:54:00 - [63] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Cubs my friend, I'm sorry to say, you underestimate the amount of Isk, STB can generate. Remember, we won a lot of those fights. But, no point arguing over the bank account, which I saw..as a director. The point is, they are corrupt, and lack leadership...when you call them out on something, they remove you. Well that much i simply cannot comment on. Although they did recently remove me from their leadership chat. not really unexpected considering some of their recent opponents have hired me, but it would be interesting to find out conspiracy theories lol i only remained in their chat to provide advice when asked, and to have an easy contact should they require services. sadly when QG stepped down so did a good % of my merc business :P Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 64	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:49:00 - [64] - Quote No conspiracy there. They just removed you because you wernt in PD leadership. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
CPL Bloodstone Algintal Core Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:41:00 - [65] - Quote I did leave because i was incredibly frustrated with the leadership myself. I just happened to be more vocal. Sorry to see you go Roman. I know you were always passionate about STB and its guys. whether in private leadership or vocal you always had the mercs in their best interest. Im just done with this game for now. I do silenty troll the forums every few days to see if any patch notes come out but thats it. Enjoying playing PS2. I had a TON more juicy details i could post but it wouldn't do any good. Still love many of the guys in STB. So i wont. Good luck in DDB, they are a very good corp. Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 64	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:57:00 - [66] - Quote Thank you for that post Bloodstone. I always enjoyed running with you. Us heavies stick together. Was sad when you left. That's a tease about that juicy info!! PM me lol. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 453	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:53:00 - [67] - Quote TheWee BabySeamus wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: And people say dust sucks. They clearly do not know about stuff like this. TheWee BabySeamus wrote: Come to DDB, I still love you Roman I am amazed that DDB wants someone in their corp who just trashed the name of another powerful corp. So speaking the truth is suddenly trash talking? right Actually yes. And yes. If I had power, I would pour the sweet milk of concord into hell. Malcom Tragedy of Macbeth Act IV Scene 3.
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 453	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:55:00 - [68] - Quote Roman837 wrote: I was in STB for nearly 11 months. I know the ins and outs of every major player in that corp. I did NOT trash the players, they are great guys. I'm calling out the "Leaders" all of the people I mentioned, are directors. Trust me, from the messages I've received in game, the soldiers are pretty dam mad right now to find out about this incompetence and corruption. I have received tremendous support, things are in the works, and the exsposed will soon be in for a few surprises. You didn't trash the players. Well not the ones you think are not corrupt. I am simply saying you are ruining a corps image showing that there leadership is poor. I just find it strange you joined DDB so publicly. If I had power, I would pour the sweet milk of concord into hell. Malcom Tragedy of Macbeth Act IV Scene 3.
CPL Bloodstone Algintal Core Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:57:00 - [69] - Quote I just find it strange you joined DDB so publicly Many ex-STB went to DDB and are in the process of applying to DDB, i know this and im inactive on dust. Once i start playing again, im going to apply to DDB . They are a great corp, many in there have been burned by STB Leadership. One thing about STB is the guys in there are loyal. No one can argue that. Many many are great guys in there and thats why most stay, not the leadership. There are those in leadership i still truly support like HellVira and Your Absolut End and Sin Mongr, they are great mercs thru and thru. Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:08:00 - [70] - Quote The responsibility of all leaders, is to protect their soldiers from the other leaders, put them before yourself. Within 30 seconds of removing me from STB, the child and forum warrior Marston sent out multple corp messages, and held a corp meeting saying "beware, Romans no longer STB..and what he is about to tell you all is a lie" That is what GUILTY people do. I called him out for stealing from the corp wallet, I told Ragewardog he's a horrible CEO, nice guy. Bad leader. I had 6 of the directors backing me before Christmas to remove him from CEO..and we were giving him till Jan 1st. During that time frame, more drama and corruption happened and I couldn't take it. I called them out. I threatned to tell EVERYONE the truth. So, as damage control I was removed. Most of our players do no check the forums, so they have no seen this thread. When they start noticing key players starting to leave, its because I have spoken with them personally, and shown them the FB messages. Can't Delete those fellas! DDB leadership, is all X STB, and I have always ran with them. They know full well what its like to be used to he fullest extent and then be discarded, then trash talked. The biggest slap to my face, from STB...was from stlCarlos, and Judas. They know everything I've said is the truth, but, in their mind, its easier to remove the one who is blowing the whistle, then it is to support him and risk being kicked. You owe it to the players of STB to fight for them. You both need to step up, and in a few months, you will be as tired as me. One man can only fight for so long. I will always miss STB. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian

21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 453	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:31:00 - [71] - Quote Now it makes sense. I totally forgot that DDB was a off branch from stb. If I had power, I would pour the sweet milk of concord into hell. Malcom Tragedy of Macbeth Act IV Scene 3.
Asya Belentine Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 101	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:29:00 - [72] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Its amazing how fast they all deleted me from FB and Psn. And even more amazing at how fast they had a corp meeting saying "90 percent of what he's saying is lies" yet none are refuting it here. I'm telling the truth on it all, and they are scared. So, which 10percent are you openly admitting to? I know all of your secrets, I know all of your tactics and plans. I know all of your players, thank you to the ones who sent me support messages, and yes, I will find us a new home. One where the leaders don't steal, lie and backstab. Less then 2 weeks ago, they were praising me for running the corp. Soon as I call them out on their greed, corruption and betrayal..they boot me and remove me from all chats. Isn't the corp suppose to vote me out? I'm sure they'd like to vote out some of you now that they know the truth. Hey roman, I am just going to leave this here. Seems to me like the right thing was done by you. Keep fighting. ~Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so you can breathe. I think you owe it an apology~
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 788	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:23:00 - [73] - Quote Nice backstabbing maneuver OP. This alone has done more damage to STB than all corporate theft in the history. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:57:00 - [74] - Quote Which part do you consider backstabbing. The leadership stealing from their corp and not paying their guys? The rigged electtions? Or...me fighting for my guys, and calling them out on it? Sounds like your a fan of corruption and no integrity to your soldiers. Apply to STB,and run for director. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2509	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:04:00 - [75] - Quote Roman837 wrote: The responsibility of all leaders, is to protect their soldiers from the other leaders, put them before yourself. But first, a leader must display tact. A leader must be honorable. A leader must think outside of himself instead of the immediate gain and/or goals. Though he has been burned by his allies, he doesn't resort to tell all threads exposing business of a corporation inner problems. You put those who are dedicated in that corporation at risk by resorting to such lowly tactics for self recognition and forum pats on the back. Leaders don't make the decision to do what you just did. You keep it in house. At least outta respect to the good mercs who are truly committed to the cause, even though their leadership has failed them. But that's a commendable effort that only you can celebrate huh? smh Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:22:00 - [76] - Quote Hey that's a great idea! Why didn't I think of doing that? Why didn't I fight for months for change. Why didn't I confront them in private in our leadership channel.. You are so smart! Oh wait, I did that you moron, I put up with it for months. I made deal with other corps that stopped us from being over whelmed and I bought us time to try and over come these corrupt issues. Then, when I finally had enough, I gave them an ultimatum. Change or be exsposed. I was instantly removed from Corp, and all chats and our facebook page. So, smart ass, where would you go to get your side out. The one place that everyone comes daily to check what's up. Why don't you keep your super smart idea to yourself,. Or think before you post. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Patrick57 Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 3592	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:23:00 - [77] - Quote So we all know that STB is corrupted and are just pub stars, move along nothing to see here..... Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D
Senator Snipe Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 86	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:33:00 - [78] - Quote to DDB i go The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2040	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:02:00 - [79] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: to DDB i go dammit. :O You're not fun to play against wish ya well Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:29:00 - [80] - Quote Welcome aboard brother! EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2248	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:45:00 - [81] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Roman837 wrote: We had...over 30 districts online for a month and a half straight...when the payouts were larger, and...at one point, 600 members playing daily with 10percent tax. With the current districts and players we make 1500mill a day. I saw the wallet, I know its content. Remember, this is Ragewardog, and Sax Rage who brought up the accusations, I sent Quick the FB messages, so he knows I'm not making this up. STB....30 districts....ONLINE??? Not sure what game you've been playing... I got linked this thread....and I signed in just to respond to the 30 districts online. I scrolled further and see you've beat me to it. 30 districts is upwards of 12 or 13%, right? I don't ever remember STB having that much. And Roman said "over 30 districts" and "online for a month and a half". Anyway, I'm not sure how I feel about threads like these. It's entertaining to read but I'd prefer guys to take pink slips in stride. Maybe if something happened where they totally disrespected you. Or, if someone posted something about you or your departure and you just want to set the record straight. But unprovoked leaking and spilling of corp's secrets? Bad taste, in my book....I have nothing against you, Roman. I just don't like to see betrayal of trusts from anyone in any form. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
The Baby Shaker Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 71	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:04:00 - [82] - Quote You guys just dont understand the lies and bullshit that their leadership will spew to save their asses. How would you feel if you bust your ass for a corp and do more for the group than the rest of the leadership, only to be betrayed to save their own asses. Just look how many talented mercs were once in STB and left mainly because of crap leadership. Quick had a dream but the rest didnt follow. I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2249	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:20:00 - [83] - Quote The Baby Shaker wrote: You guys just dont understand the lies and bullshit that their leadership will spew to save their asses. How would you feel if you bust your ass for a corp and do more for the group than the rest of the leadership, only to be betrayed to save their own asses. Just look how many talented mercs were once in STB and left mainly because of crap leadership. Quick had a dream but the rest didnt follow. I think we all get it....but bad leadership isn't a prerequisite for airing our private conversations publicly. Being a director means that you were trusted with the most sensitive material. If you decide to step down, leave, or kicked from the clan..it isn't honorable to air out a corp's businesses publicly. You know what that's like?...It's like Colonel Powell getting mad with the US and going to another country and airing our secrets all over their media. I mean, I don't want wish to compare the two (especially on an extreme example like that) but I just want to try and illustrate what is being done. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2041	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:35:00 - [84] - Quote When your leaders ostracize you for trying to bring problems perceived to the clans attention instead of letting the truth and reason reign in the majority, it's tough to swallow the idea that others will join without ever knowing...do you think STB will tell new recruits why Roman left? Or more likely will they and many others, be more influenced because it can't be swept under the rug? You'll never have this issue Dubbs. But try to understand when you're left with little recourse, I can see why airing out problems (perceived or otherwise) publicly might feel justified. Airing out is a last resort to those who's attempts to communicate with their respective community are stifled. If leadership is true disagreements will conclude with the majority of the corp deciding, not leadership intervening and saying "No you can't challenge me" If any of my members disagrees with me and the corp is in majority agreeance then I won't kick him because I'm the leader. And I won't kick him because he tries to engage the corp in the disagreement. That being said, I have no idea the truth of this matter, nor any interest in getting involved. I have no idea if Roman is telling the whole truth, and obviously this is only his side of the coin. Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2250	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:49:00 - [85] - Quote See, the thing is....I have no issue with Roman hating STB's leadership. I've just never been a fan of airing out a corp's secrets publicly. Maybe because I'm older and my real life background/culture....but if I wasn't leader of a clan and I was kicked, I highly doubt that I would publicly leak info that was given to me in trust. Sure, I may tell my new clan in private but I wouldn't make it my business to do it publicly. And I can also understand a person's urge to get back at the corp that (that person feels) betrayed them. I'm just not a fan of it. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:54:00 - [86] - Quote Why would I spend months building STB, countless hours/day/weeks online dedicated to FCing most of our PCs, I have diplomatic ties to most of the main players outside of PD, and INSIDE PD I always helped our alliance organize teams. If I wanted to betray STB because I was mad at the corp..I would have stollen their wallet, sold all their clones and booted their members. Instead, I sent a corp mail saying that there are leaders in the corp not doing their job and saying they can do mine..I called them out and said DO so. Dubbs, your anology, is off. I was removed from corp for calling them out...in a leadership meeting. No vote from the corp. I wanted Ragewardog removed. He was doing a horrible job and the corruption ran thick. After being kicked,, what option did I have? I hope that if you saw that a group of leaders in your corp were abusing your players, or if your directors saw that YOU were abusing your players, I hope, that they would step up and fight for their guys. Even if it ment you got removed. Its called integrity. Doing what's right, no matter who's around, and standing up for your guys even in your standing alone. As for the truth...well, I've just been waiting for a STB director to step on his **** by calling me a liar on here..then I post ALL of the convos I have saved. They know better, I'm not lying. They would look pretty dam silly to call me out on this and lose all face. Some of the stuff is pretty damming, and I don't want it to come to posting it. What I want, is new players to avoid STB until a leadership change happens. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:58:00 - [87] - Quote Your loyalty is to the guys who look up to you. Not the other directors. I aired the directors laundry, and never ONCE trashed the corp. I loved being in STB as a player and as a director, and I'm sad it came to this. I'm not the one who STOLE from the corp or who rigs elections..and who makes policys not to pay guys for pc losses. I'm the one who fought for my guys. Which is worse...betraying your guys....or fighting for them and taking it all on yourself. Even if it means getting kicked. Now my guys can read this, without corp covering it. Up and make their own decisions. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2251	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:10:00 - [88] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Why would I spend months building STB, countless hours/day/weeks online dedicated to FCing most of our PCs, I have diplomatic ties to most of the main players outside of PD, and INSIDE PD I always helped our alliance organize teams. If I wanted to betray STB because I was mad at the corp..I would have stollen their wallet, sold all their clones and booted their members. Instead, I sent a corp mail saying that there are leaders in the corp not doing their job and saying they can do mine..I called them out and said DO so. Dubbs, your anology, is off. I was removed from corp for calling them out...in a leadership meeting. No vote from the corp. I wanted Ragewardog removed. He was doing a horrible job and the corruption ran thick. After being kicked,, what option did I have? I hope that if you saw that a group of leaders in your corp were abusing your players, or if your directors saw that YOU were abusing your players, I hope, that they would step up and fight for their guys. Even if it ment you got removed. Its called integrity. Doing what's right, no matter who's around, and standing up for your guys even in your standing alone. As for the truth...well, I've just been waiting for a STB director to step on his **** by calling me a liar on here..then I post ALL of the convos I have saved. They know better, I'm not lying. They would look pretty dam silly to call me out on this and lose all face. Some of the stuff is pretty damming, and I don't want it to come to posting it. What I want, is new players to avoid STB until a leadership change happens. so the motivational reason for this thread is to deter new members from joining STB? weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:14:00 - [89] - Quote No, its to inform the current members, that I did NOT betray them as the corp mail sent out about me said. They removed me from ALL chats, the corp, and the FB page. Because I called them out about corruption and incompetence. I was a director..and the guys under me worked real hard and deserved better. They did NOT give me a chance to talk to the corp, and we have a corp vote on what to do. That would have been my first step. This is on the forums so my guys can read it. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2041	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:14:00 - [90] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: See, the thing is....I have no issue with Roman hating STB's leadership. I've just never been a fan of airing out a corp's secrets publicly. Maybe because I'm older and my real life background/culture....but if I wasn't leader of a clan and I was kicked, I highly doubt that I would publicly leak info that was given to me in trust. Sure, I may tell my new clan in private but I wouldn't make it my business to do it publicly. And I can also understand a person's urge to get back at the corp that (that person feels) betrayed them. I'm just not a fan of it. I disagree that airing out is about getting back, although it certainly can feel satisfying. I'd think of it more like Edward Snowden, sure did it suck he leaked info that put the US in a bad light? but was it the right thing to do when the other avenues of implementing change were closed? Master naders: Geniuses at evening the odds. Favorite Skype: Zatara.Rought



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