DUST Search - The Truth about STB Leadership, coming from their head FC/Director and Diplomat.

kayn TARON wrote:

ragewardog wrote:

I said in that meeting like 50 times you want ceo that was what you was after.. but whatever its done move on let this post die

Although it is always good to hear both sides of a story no matter what happens there is always some "shred" of truth on both sides so I advise any whom read this thread to take it with a grain of salt. I have my own thoughts as to whom I believe, or not, or choose just not to think about as would anyone else whom has read this..

That being said I believe everyone has spoken their peace, and now is the time for us to let this thread die and move on. Remember in the end it is a video game, and we are here to have FUN. We all enjoy shooting those red pixels with fake pixels ourselves right!

ROM was a wonderful FC as for leadership of him and current there will always be disagreements. The important thing is to move beyond it and enjoy the game for what it is meant for.

Many of you within leadership and Rom was friends for a good long time, so lets move beyond this as adults rather than dragging this out further and beating a dead horse.

I'd also like to suggest that if more is desired to be said that it be done so in a civilized manor without insulting one another, and be done in private chat. It is not really necessary to involve so many people into what otherwise could have been handled in private. Should the "corp" be aware of such situations good and bad sure, but the general population does not.

Ok I have said my peace, and no matter what to you Rom I wish you well in DDB and hope all goes well for you over there. Perhaps at some point I shall see you on the field of battle.

To all SVER guys just try and refrain from posting any further please, as threads like this don't just make any one or two people look bad but the entire corp name as a whole. There is no need for the entire corp to be drug through the mud over this. Everything as a whole is tragic don't get me wrong but what is most important is we move on from this. There will always be disagreements with others especially in larger corps that is to be expected. The important thing to remember when there is a disagreement is not what is said, nor if you agree or not with the final decision, but to handle each disagreement with respect, integrity, honesty, and civility.

So in short it's not what any given disagreement is about that is important, it's how it's handled that is important. Thus far I believe this one could have been handled a bit better on both sides although I am not taking sides on the arguement itself on either side as I try and stay as neutral as possible.

With quick now back perhaps is a good time Roman for you to discuss these things more in private with QG personally so that we may move on from this. I hated to see you go, but wish you well.

Current leadership, I shall see you on the field of battle as we destroy the opposition in PC.

Take care all.

Good luck, good day, good games ahead, and happy hunting to us all.

(Kayn Taron STB Newer Member)
(Celtic Taron -Molon PC Tanker)


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Roman837 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 51	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:55:00 - [1] - Quote As you all can see, I am no longer in STB, was there for almost 11 months. Fought in every war, almost every battle. Most of you know me as I have dealt with your corps diplomatically when were at war, and dealt with your corp and leaders within the Alliance. For the most part, I believe I have a pretty decent and honest relationship with most of you. What I am going to tell you now, will either shock most of you, and confirm your suspicions for the rest. STB Leadership is weak, they are corrupt, and they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Directors steal money from the wallet, they back stab each other..and they talk more trash then most of the trolls on this site. I am about to air out all their dirty laundry. Ragewardog is now CEO, but does not own the shares of the Corp, Quickgloves does. Rage put in a petition to CCP to get them from Quickgloves because he and most of the other Directors believe quick stole the entire corp wallet and sold it for real money. Why they speculate this is because when Quick came back, he only gave Rage 1billion isk, where Rage believe there was upwards of 30bill. This debate ultimately led to a division in leadership, resulting in Cpl Bloodstone stepping down and leaving, and the other directors believing Sin Mongr was involved. Marston, was busted stealing over 100mill from the Corp wallet, and eventually confronted, he said he was doing it as a joke, how much more he stole before hand? Who knows, he was made to pay it back and the secret got swept under the table. When Sin Mongr got burnt out from FCin match after match, he got into an argument with Sax Rage, this lead to Ragewardog removing his directorship and a policy of keeping and eye on Mongr was put into effect, they believed he would AWOX the corp. Heres a juicy little bit of Info for STB members to remember in any future elections. They are rigged, you send you ballot cast to The ceo..and he tallies the votes. Congrats Kaios, You actually won the last election, but since Ragewardog doesn't like you, he gave it to Judas. Vyle Cross- Another loyal director of STB, they think you are a spy to another corp, hence why they don't invite you to private chats, Sin Mongr and I are your only supporters in saying you are not one. To everyone reading this, the warriors of STB are not to blame for any of this. It is their leadership, or lack there of. Since Quickgloves left it has been a down hill spiral, held together by one or 2 leaders, and the huge support of our players. STB has a policy, that it doesn't pay alliance members in PC if they lose, they also don't believe in paying its own members for losses, yet the ones making that policy are either tankers(full reimbursement) or never show up for PC and just back seat drive. Over the past few months of being STBS lead FC, this has caused me to have MANY arguments, I believe that solders need to be paid win or lose and usualy ended up paying them out of my own pocket to help ease the burder of the loss. A little over a week ago, after a heated argument with Sax Rage, the director of applications...lol...I decided to step down as head FC and as director. He said he could do a better job, so I called him out and said be my guest. After that I decided to personally message each director I had problems with, and tell them off on their faults. This resulted in them telling me...since im no longer a leader I have no say. Amazing, for months, I did literally everything organizing this Corp, and I decide to step down for 1 week and you all turn on me? It disgusts me that you people are the ones left in charge of such a great group of soldiers. To the men and women of STB. YOU ARE STB. Not the "leaders/directors" they work for you. Name one of them, who has come to your help or has taken the time to respond to your emails? To the CEOS and other Directors of PD, who was it you went to for help...or better yet, of the people you went to for help, who was it that answered? Loyalty is to your Subordinates, it is your job as a leader to call out the other "leaders" when they make mistakes or STEAL from the corp. STB, I loved being in the corp, but your directors have now removed me after a heated discussion where I told them off. I don't know which corp ill go to, but I encourage you to leave that poisonous environment. There still are a few directors looking out for you, but they are vastly outnumbered by the ones getting rich off your hard work. Brings on the refuting comments, and bring on the trolls, lucky for me...I have every FB message still saved between leadership members. Call me on it. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 51	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:05:00 - [2] - Quote No, the players don't deserve that, they worked hard are getting back SVER Prime and proud I was apart of that. They are great soldiers. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:10:00 - [3] - Quote Everyone, this Post is NOT about Quickgloves. For. Few months, he has just been playing as a soldier, not one of the leaders or directors. And if you notice the post did not say that he DID steal the money, just that Ragewardog and the rest of the directors accuse and suspect him of it. They will never let him be CEO again and have an agreement in place to prevent it. I wish nothing but good things for Quickgloves and his RL family. A very sad thing to happen to anyone and I hope that tough lil fella a speedy recovery. This is just airing out the CURRENT directors and CEOs laundry. So, plz don't concentrate on QuickGloves. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:57:00 - [4] - Quote Its amazing how fast they all deleted me from FB and Psn. And even more amazing at how fast they had a corp meeting saying "90 percent of what he's saying is lies" yet none are refuting it here. I'm telling the truth on it all, and they are scared. So, which 10percent are you openly admitting to? I know all of your secrets, I know all of your tactics and plans. I know all of your players, thank you to the ones who sent me support messages, and yes, I will find us a new home. One where the leaders don't steal, lie and backstab. Less then 2 weeks ago, they were praising me for running the corp. Soon as I call them out on their greed, corruption and betrayal..they boot me and remove me from all chats. Isn't the corp suppose to vote me out? I'm sure they'd like to vote out some of you now that they know the truth. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 58	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:20:00 - [5] - Quote I'm saying what THEY say about QuickGloves behind his back. I've forwarded him some FB messages so he knows who is against him in STB. I have plenty more, just waiting for one of them to pipe up and try to deny what I posted, so I can ram the truth right back down their throats. I think they know better, and know for a fact..I have it ALL. Thank you for the kind words and support from the Dust community. It is truely sad knowing that the hard workers and warriors of STB are being "lead" by some very corrupt people. That does not mean ALL STB directors are bad, there are some great ones still there, who truely work hard, but...if they step up and confront the bad ones, well..within 5mins, your removed from all chats...FB..and you lose 5 psn friends..oh..and your kicked from corp. LoL EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:10:00 - [6] - Quote I was in STB for nearly 11 months. I know the ins and outs of every major player in that corp. I did NOT trash the players, they are great guys. I'm calling out the "Leaders" all of the people I mentioned, are directors. Trust me, from the messages I've received in game, the soldiers are pretty dam mad right now to find out about this incompetence and corruption. I have received tremendous support, things are in the works, and the exsposed will soon be in for a few surprises. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:37:00 - [7] - Quote We had...over 30 districts online for a month and a half straight...when the payouts were larger, and...at one point, 600 members playing daily with 10percent tax. With the current districts and players we make 1500mill a day. I saw the wallet, I know its content. Remember, this is Ragewardog, and Sax Rage who brought up the accusations, I sent Quick the FB messages, so he knows I'm not making this up. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:40:00 - [8] - Quote 150** correcttion. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:43:00 - [9] - Quote Cubs my friend, I'm sorry to say, you underestimate the amount of Isk, STB can generate. Remember, we won a lot of those fights. But, no point arguing over the bank account, which I saw..as a director. The point is, they are corrupt, and lack leadership...when you call them out on something, they remove you. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 64	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:49:00 - [10] - Quote No conspiracy there. They just removed you because you wernt in PD leadership. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian

Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 64	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:57:00 - [11] - Quote Thank you for that post Bloodstone. I always enjoyed running with you. Us heavies stick together. Was sad when you left. That's a tease about that juicy info!! PM me lol. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:08:00 - [12] - Quote The responsibility of all leaders, is to protect their soldiers from the other leaders, put them before yourself. Within 30 seconds of removing me from STB, the child and forum warrior Marston sent out multple corp messages, and held a corp meeting saying "beware, Romans no longer STB..and what he is about to tell you all is a lie" That is what GUILTY people do. I called him out for stealing from the corp wallet, I told Ragewardog he's a horrible CEO, nice guy. Bad leader. I had 6 of the directors backing me before Christmas to remove him from CEO..and we were giving him till Jan 1st. During that time frame, more drama and corruption happened and I couldn't take it. I called them out. I threatned to tell EVERYONE the truth. So, as damage control I was removed. Most of our players do no check the forums, so they have no seen this thread. When they start noticing key players starting to leave, its because I have spoken with them personally, and shown them the FB messages. Can't Delete those fellas! DDB leadership, is all X STB, and I have always ran with them. They know full well what its like to be used to he fullest extent and then be discarded, then trash talked. The biggest slap to my face, from STB...was from stlCarlos, and Judas. They know everything I've said is the truth, but, in their mind, its easier to remove the one who is blowing the whistle, then it is to support him and risk being kicked. You owe it to the players of STB to fight for them. You both need to step up, and in a few months, you will be as tired as me. One man can only fight for so long. I will always miss STB. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:57:00 - [13] - Quote Which part do you consider backstabbing. The leadership stealing from their corp and not paying their guys? The rigged electtions? Or...me fighting for my guys, and calling them out on it? Sounds like your a fan of corruption and no integrity to your soldiers. Apply to STB,and run for director. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:22:00 - [14] - Quote Hey that's a great idea! Why didn't I think of doing that? Why didn't I fight for months for change. Why didn't I confront them in private in our leadership channel.. You are so smart! Oh wait, I did that you moron, I put up with it for months. I made deal with other corps that stopped us from being over whelmed and I bought us time to try and over come these corrupt issues. Then, when I finally had enough, I gave them an ultimatum. Change or be exsposed. I was instantly removed from Corp, and all chats and our facebook page. So, smart ass, where would you go to get your side out. The one place that everyone comes daily to check what's up. Why don't you keep your super smart idea to yourself,. Or think before you post. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:29:00 - [15] - Quote Welcome aboard brother! EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:54:00 - [16] - Quote Why would I spend months building STB, countless hours/day/weeks online dedicated to FCing most of our PCs, I have diplomatic ties to most of the main players outside of PD, and INSIDE PD I always helped our alliance organize teams. If I wanted to betray STB because I was mad at the corp..I would have stollen their wallet, sold all their clones and booted their members. Instead, I sent a corp mail saying that there are leaders in the corp not doing their job and saying they can do mine..I called them out and said DO so. Dubbs, your anology, is off. I was removed from corp for calling them out...in a leadership meeting. No vote from the corp. I wanted Ragewardog removed. He was doing a horrible job and the corruption ran thick. After being kicked,, what option did I have? I hope that if you saw that a group of leaders in your corp were abusing your players, or if your directors saw that YOU were abusing your players, I hope, that they would step up and fight for their guys. Even if it ment you got removed. Its called integrity. Doing what's right, no matter who's around, and standing up for your guys even in your standing alone. As for the truth...well, I've just been waiting for a STB director to step on his **** by calling me a liar on here..then I post ALL of the convos I have saved. They know better, I'm not lying. They would look pretty dam silly to call me out on this and lose all face. Some of the stuff is pretty damming, and I don't want it to come to posting it. What I want, is new players to avoid STB until a leadership change happens. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:58:00 - [17] - Quote Your loyalty is to the guys who look up to you. Not the other directors. I aired the directors laundry, and never ONCE trashed the corp. I loved being in STB as a player and as a director, and I'm sad it came to this. I'm not the one who STOLE from the corp or who rigs elections..and who makes policys not to pay guys for pc losses. I'm the one who fought for my guys. Which is worse...betraying your guys....or fighting for them and taking it all on yourself. Even if it means getting kicked. Now my guys can read this, without corp covering it. Up and make their own decisions. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:14:00 - [18] - Quote No, its to inform the current members, that I did NOT betray them as the corp mail sent out about me said. They removed me from ALL chats, the corp, and the FB page. Because I called them out about corruption and incompetence. I was a director..and the guys under me worked real hard and deserved better. They did NOT give me a chance to talk to the corp, and we have a corp vote on what to do. That would have been my first step. This is on the forums so my guys can read it. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 65	Posted - 2014.01.05 08:31:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Roman837 wrote: Hey that's a great idea! Why didn't I think of doing that? Why didn't I fight for months for change. Why didn't I confront them in private in our leadership channel.. You are so smart! Oh wait, I did that you moron, I put up with it for months. I made deal with other corps that stopped us from being over whelmed and I bought us time to try and over come these corrupt issues. Then, when I finally had enough, I gave them an ultimatum. Change or be exsposed. I was instantly removed from Corp, and all chats and our facebook page. So, smart ass, where would you go to get your side out. The one place that everyone comes daily to check what's up. Why don't you keep your super smart idea to yourself,. Or think before you post. And why don't you keep your Golden Girls business to yourself?? Is it that hard?? Or you just can't keep the juicy topic to yourself like some gossiping women at a beauty salon??? You clearly were the kid always taddling in class just for extra brownie points. You know nothing about being a trusted leader. What have I gained by doing this? I lost the corp I've been in since I joined the game. Post on your main or shut up. Already 4 players who were crucial for STBs PC have left corp over this. More are following. They asked for proof, I gave them it. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 67	Posted - 2014.01.05 14:51:00 - [20] - Quote Mad Brute- First of all, get your facts straight. I did not get REMOVED of my roles, I gave them up. PM in game with your FB info, and I will sent you literally every single FB message between Ragewardog, Judas, Sax Rage and myself. Ill even add a couple from Marston. Liked you brute, your being fooled. Souljae-who are you? You name sounds familiar, you new to the corp? Is this your move to try and get noticed, if so bravo, there are now 3 unfilled directors spots and sounds like your just the guy they are looking for. Cpl Bloodstone stepped down over corruption. Marston stepped down...because Sax called him out and yelled at him....but..a few hours later(after I talked to him and calmed him down) he said he had a random concussion..and made a mistake stepping down. No vote was taken to give him back his directorship, and my directorship role is available. Of course there are going to be haters coming onto this thread. Once again, any STB guys who don't believe me. PM me in game with you FB info, ill give you it all. Then you can make a real informed decision...instead of believing a letter sent to corp about me from Martson. Why does that corp mail said that they want me back and will take me back..if I retract my statement..yet in the same paragraph say ummmm ""what Roman is about to tell you all will be a lie" Like common guys. A week ago not a single one of you had a bad thing to say bout me, or anyone..because we kept a tight shup on the ins and outs of leadership. Madbrute...ever wonder why Mongr almost left and got in huge fight with Sax Rage and Ragewardog? And why he doesn't want anything to do with being a director or politics..all he cares about is PC and the troops? Its because they did the same to him man. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian

Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 68	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:11:00 - [21] - Quote Heres a small tid Bit conversation...I have changed their names from RL to ingame names to protect their RL indentity. 12/13, 7:58am Judas "FYI. Squaded with QG last nite. KOTR wanted to chat with him. Not sure what topic was. Also Pelongis, Mongr and QG have something going. Again not sure what it is about. Could b harmless. The three of us must remain tight. Not sure where any of this is leading. I could just b paranoid." Sax Rage "QG, Mongr and Pelongnis are trading/selling isk for real life money. Quick asked me about a week ago who to contact to exchange isk for $$. I guarantee you that QG still has a ** load of isk or knows where to get some. He was talking about how he's broke and needs work/money." small part of that much larger convo. Heres part of my convo with the CEO. Roman837 "Your problem is you don't trust your directors or give us ANY credit or gratitude. We bust our asses off for this corp. What we do NOT need. Is for you to log in and question what we have done. That's the only thing that pisses me off. Other then that were fine. You need to work on your tact and public speaking. Be a leader not a boss. Big difference. Your the figure head of the corp, not the dictator, that's where quick went wrong. You started off great but are slowly slipping. I am not the only one who thinks this, all we ask..is trust us and once in a while..say "thanks guys your doing a great job" And if your not online when something "bad/wrong" happens like carlos buying that clone pack, you have no right to get upset with him, or accuse me. Because he had to make a decision, no one else was there to help him, and what we do is for the betterment of the corp. Its only isk, and we secured a district. Our districts will start making huge amounts of money soon and we will be rolling in dough". Ragewardog Nope I trust them all I just don't like the way you been acting of late. Your head has got big or that's the way I see it.. so here's what you do I'm CEO if you don't like that cool find someone who you do then do a corporation vote or respect the fact that I'm CEO and set down and chat with me about the issues guys are having So if you want to run or have someone who does start the vote... but I'm not a limited CEO u read the mail quick sent out I am the full CEO and when a guy a member of my leadership tells me what are you going to do about it nothing that's right then gets into it with sax sinboto there's a issue Roman You don't like the way I am acting! You mean, you don't like that WE are running the corp, that you havnt had one corp meeting, you havnt done ANY diplomacy with any other corps(also done by Sax and I)..that we have been fighting ALL the PCs, that we have been the ones doing literally everything. Then you log in and * us out because something didn't happen the way YOU wanted it to. You are CEO on paper, not elected, we needed to have somone fill the shoes because of the quick situation. At first, you did do a good job, and we ALL helped to make things work. Now, you just log on and * at us. Why have I changed? Because I've been logging on at 6am daily and playing till 3am. Because I have FC'd all the fights and done ALL the diplomacy, because you log in without confirming anything with us and attack KOTR. You have NOT ONCE held a corp meeting, or a director meeting and not ONCE have you thanked everyone in leadership. You are ungratefull to our hard work, and I'm sick of us doing ALL that hard work, and then you log in and * us out. So, if you were PART of that hard work, then you could have a say in the matters, such as...recruiting, trading districts, who to attack/ moving clones..but you would have to be ONLINE for that. If your NOT online..then don't *, because we got the fuckin job done. YOU ARE A TEMP CEO! Appointed by quick..the guy who stole all the isk..which we have all kept secret. Remember that. Ragewardog Nope I'm the CEO like it or not but you can vote me out So if u have issues with what I'm doing talk to leadership and look into having me removed with a vote and find some to run against me Roman Yes, you are the temp CEO..and what have you fuckin done since being it? NOTHING. I'm not saying your not capable of being a good one, but you havnt done **. You need to step up. We've been doing ALL the work, and then you critisize us for that work." more madbrute? This is only small portions of the convos. Copied and pasted. So, where was that election???? oh waitttt...I was removed because I was sticking up for you guys. How fast people turn on you, I guess that's part of the game. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 68	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:19:00 - [22] - Quote Yes Madbrute, that's exactly it. Keep trolling. And Reg- was no choice, last resort. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 68	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:20:00 - [23] - Quote My vote was for Cpl Bloodstone to be CEO. But, he left to after fighting his own fight with STB leadership. Who is next? EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:51:00 - [24] - Quote Carlos and I would be impressed if you could post a quote of where I said I built STB. Please do. STB the clan is incredibly strong. The players are strong, The LEADERSHIP is weak, and corrupt. Shall I post YOUR psn messages to me? I have kept you out of this because I believe you are a good person, and, if you become more of a director, and focus your energy on leading and helping the corp and not your OWN kds and stats, that STB will have a great new champion. Truly believe that. YOU are an honest player and mean well for the corp. But don't come on here and act like up until before Christmas that other then being a slayer in pc, that you have been very active in the management of the corp. Glad you are now. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:59:00 - [25] - Quote Shall I begin to pick that apart? My 4months, was...4 weeks, and internet was down, theres one flaw. Second, I FCd since the AE war. Quick, good try on your eve toon to troll me on dust. Its amazing how he cant type when he wants to eh? So, are my copied and pasted messages a false hood? did I edit them? No, Quick, they hate you, and wont let you be CEO again, if you don't believe me, try. Go for it! Other then that, No one on these forums is going to listen to your over embellished posts with huge exaggeration. Vyle, if your reading, they do think your a spy, and if Mongr denies that, because we defended you, then they have gotten to him. You are always great at damage control Quick, I give you that. You just are the little boy who cried wolf and lied to many times. Good luck EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:02:00 - [26] - Quote run for CEO, then come LOL EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:32:00 - [27] - Quote Impressive! you reposted what ive said!! How come no ones posting denying bout the isk being stolen, except quick who just admitted Marston did, TY. Quick, they obviously are not going to be like...Yes quick, we think you stole all the isk..and never want you back, because you own the shares!!!! Which is why Rage applied to CCP to get them from you. You may all believe what you want. Im no longer in STB, and within momments they start trashing me saying I never did nothing for the corp. Sound Familiar DDB? Wonder whos next at getting removed EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:48:00 - [28] - Quote I 100% percent said I wanted my directorship back, That I removed myself because Sax Rage said he could do a better job. I told him to step up or shut up. I said Marston stepped down, and should not be director aswell, and that Sax Rage hasn't done anything for the corp. I said I either get reinstated, or im leaving. You guys said I had not EARNED it yet. Your turn. Did you know about Marston stealing isk...and about Ragewardogs accusation about Quicks HUGE theft. Also, did you tell me, Quick will never be CEO again and you would do what ever it takes for the good of STB, to even blackmail him, if he tried to come back as CEO? Your turn EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:50:00 - [29] - Quote I wont speak for DDB, but, they do like you personally Quick. And on a personal side, I like you to. Im not the one who accused you, and its sad your now defending the guys who don't want you back, but are sorry for you. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 70	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:35:00 - [30] - Quote Was it broke because you and Quick stole isk? EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian

Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 70	Posted - 2014.01.05 21:28:00 - [31] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Actually they were behind from the get-go because they bought SVER prime instead of fighting for it ^ That's the only difference between then and now. The districts we have now weren't payed for. Except maybe the first two we got back before the pradox war started. (because we needed to get back up on our feet and its really hard to take districts using clone packs). Really!? REALLY!!! Hey Radar, do you still read these threads! Who negotiated you giving us 6(ended up only giving us 3) districts on Sver Prime? Kujo, didn't you give us 2? RND, didn't we trade you for One,..Molon Labe, didn't we trade you for another?? Also, when ANON fell appart, they came to me, and offered us 7 districts for 300mill..which...I got our alliance to buy most, and STB bought 2. One from my own wallet..it was to be used for training and never happend. Marston...just because you wernt online or part of those negotiations, doesn't mean it didn't happen. You have been and always will be, out of the loop..BECAUSE YOU STOLE. Don't come on this forums talking lies. You may be able to type tough and smart, but we call your bullshit. The only reason they including you now, is for a vote and damage control. And you know it. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 70	Posted - 2014.01.06 00:53:00 - [32] - Quote Excellent job! Well played. To hide all your lies, you snakes have banded together! That was a long post Marston, hard to read it all. You may all think your pretty dam smart right now. In reality. Your all a bunch of ******* snakes. Right now your supporting each other in your lies. One day, very soon, you will all turn on yourself, again. Sax Rage, the day you dreaded has come. You swore if Quick came back you would leave. Judas, your name suits you, you aswell swore you would never fight for quick. Ragewardog, LOL. Wernt you removed from SVER before? Its hilarious. You think you can all collectively lie, and win, one day, one of you will have a falling out with each other..and that person will come here and post about it. Marston...I can't believe I talked you out of offing yoursing when you cried to me on comms. You are a thief, a liar and your useless in STB. That's quite the INSIDE joke you have going on! "Hey guys, I just stoll over 100mill hahahaha" awsome joke...really, who believes that? People of the community, this is a farce, a joke, and a lie. They are all banding together in an attempt to hide their thefts. At least they all know what each other think about each other...snakes, every single one of you. In real life tho. Congrats QG, I am extremly glad your son is coming home. He definatly deserves it and I hope he grows into a very strong young man. Games are games, meta is meta, RL tho..I am truely happy for you, and I follow all your FB posts and DID prey for young Weston. In game...lol. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 71	Posted - 2014.01.06 06:09:00 - [33] - Quote Ya, may have over steppend my bounds. And I appologize openly to Marston for that comment. Still think in game he's a piece of **** thief tho. No appology or retraction there. Next STB director that gets in a big argument, will I'm sure of it, post on these forums and say "Remember that time I said XXXXXXX well, I was lying, Roman was telling the truth" Well done fellas for going back on everything you all swore you would never let happen, just so you could embarass me. You let Quick back as CEO. Enjoy that. He knows what you really think of him, he's seen all the FB posts. Now, let's get back to playing the GAME. Look forward to making all your tanks dissapear with my Forge, and camping the points with my HMG. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.01.06 18:29:00 - [34] - Quote LOL. Right Judas, first of all, you lying *****, Quick Gloves AAAANNNDDD Ragewardog both told Wikid Clown, and Xdestruction, myself AND Wako last night, in a convo, that it was SAX RAGE who innitiated the accusations. You all need to get together and go over which story you are all going to tell. Because it keeps changing. That's the thing about lies Judas, eventually all the truth will come out...and you may have everyone all fooled now..but, its going to bite you hard in the ass. Let the big boys do the hard work Judas, you stick to the extremly hard director job of...wait...what's your job? Oh...nvm, you don't have one. But...your right, loved squading with you back before we even cared what happend. My hats off to all of you for banding together to hide this corruption. Well done. Now ** off. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 73	Posted - 2014.01.06 19:50:00 - [35] - Quote Wanting you removed from being ACTING Ceo...and wanting to be CEO is totally different. That's what elections are for. So that people can elect who they want to reresent them. But good call ignoring the "It was Sax Rage who innitially made the accusation" part. You never were elected, and it shows as you did a horrible job. But I agree, this threa has grown old. Its your peons who keeping coming back to chirp, and I will always defend myself. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 73	Posted - 2014.01.06 19:54:00 - [36] - Quote kayn TARON wrote: ragewardog wrote: I said in that meeting like 50 times you want ceo that was what you was after.. but whatever its done move on let this post die Although it is always good to hear both sides of a story no matter what happens there is always some "shred" of truth on both sides so I advise any whom read this thread to take it with a grain of salt. I have my own thoughts as to whom I believe, or not, or choose just not to think about as would anyone else whom has read this.. That being said I believe everyone has spoken their peace, and now is the time for us to let this thread die and move on. Remember in the end it is a video game, and we are here to have FUN. We all enjoy shooting those red pixels with fake pixels ourselves right! ROM was a wonderful FC as for leadership of him and current there will always be disagreements. The important thing is to move beyond it and enjoy the game for what it is meant for. Many of you within leadership and Rom was friends for a good long time, so lets move beyond this as adults rather than dragging this out further and beating a dead horse. I'd also like to suggest that if more is desired to be said that it be done so in a civilized manor without insulting one another, and be done in private chat. It is not really necessary to involve so many people into what otherwise could have been handled in private. Should the "corp" be aware of such situations good and bad sure, but the general population does not. Ok I have said my peace, and no matter what to you Rom I wish you well in DDB and hope all goes well for you over there. Perhaps at some point I shall see you on the field of battle. To all SVER guys just try and refrain from posting any further please, as threads like this don't just make any one or two people look bad but the entire corp name as a whole. There is no need for the entire corp to be drug through the mud over this. Everything as a whole is tragic don't get me wrong but what is most important is we move on from this. There will always be disagreements with others especially in larger corps that is to be expected. The important thing to remember when there is a disagreement is not what is said, nor if you agree or not with the final decision, but to handle each disagreement with respect, integrity, honesty, and civility. So in short it's not what any given disagreement is about that is important, it's how it's handled that is important. Thus far I believe this one could have been handled a bit better on both sides although I am not taking sides on the arguement itself on either side as I try and stay as neutral as possible. With quick now back perhaps is a good time Roman for you to discuss these things more in private with QG personally so that we may move on from this. I hated to see you go, but wish you well. Current leadership, I shall see you on the field of battle as we destroy the opposition in PC. Take care all. Good luck, good day, good games ahead, and happy hunting to us all. (Kayn Taron STB Newer Member) (Celtic Taron -Molon PC Tanker) Good post, well said. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
Roman837 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 74	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:23:00 - [37] - Quote Meh, a person can be a good squadmate/player...and still be a backstabber. Never talked down any of their gun games, we had a good PC team. EX STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian