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Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:50:00 - [1] - Quote http://imgur.com/Amapuxp How it went down, I entered a match right at the end. I ran towards the action looking for an easy kill. I spot a dude on a roof and spool up my charge sniper. I shot 1 round into the base of the tower accidentally, it didn't hit anyone. I line on the rooftop guy and bam, one shot him. He was in a scout suit. CSR does 321.86 base I have 4 complex light damage mods +10% each My sniper proficiency is level 5 +3% * 5 points My calculations put me at 481 alpha. 2 shots would register at more than 505 1 shot should not be higher than around 481 right? Is the stacking penalty broken? "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Adelia Lafayette DUST University Ivy League 523	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:53:00 - [2] - Quote did you account for the +/- 10% bonus to shields or armor. if they had more then one or the other you'll do more or less damage based on which your weapons does more to. I think the sniper does more to armor so if it was a gallente scout with a plate on you might of done some extra unaccounted damage. Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:59:00 - [3] - Quote Adelia Lafayette wrote: did you account for the +/- 10% bonus to shields or armor. if they had more then one or the other you'll do more or less damage based on which your weapons does more to. I think the sniper does more to armor so if it was a gallente scout with a plate on you might of done some extra unaccounted damage. I did not account for that, nor did I realize that was even a factor. Thanks! DUST uni FTW edit* it was a G-Scout "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1427	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:00:00 - [4] - Quote Charge Rifle - Hybrid Projectile +10% to shields, did you account for that? Body Shot Modifier? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:02:00 - [5] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Charge Rifle - Hybrid Projectile +10% to shields, did you account for that? Body Shot Modifier? Body shot 90% right? And no I wasn't aware, thanks! "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 634	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:05:00 - [6] - Quote I think your calculations are correct, but I'm pretty sure that damage dealt considers the damage bonus/reduction vs. shields/armor. The sniper rifle has a -10% penalty to shield and a 10% bonus to armor, which could account for the number you are getting. As an example, say the scout has 210 shield and 100 armor. To remove its 210 shield, 233HP of dmg points would be subtracted from your alpha damage (233*.9=2100HP), leaving you with 248HP of dmg points left to apply to armor. This gets a bonus of 10%, so your total damage dealt to armor would be 272HP. Add the 233HP of shield dmg and you get 505HP.
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1336	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote Mitch Laurence wrote: http://imgur.com/Amapuxp How it went down, I entered a match right at the end. I ran towards the action looking for an easy kill. I spot a dude on a roof and spool up my charge sniper. I shot 1 round into the base of the tower accidentally, it didn't hit anyone. I line on the rooftop guy and bam, one shot him. He was in a scout suit. CSR does 321.86 base I have 4 complex light damage mods +10% each My sniper proficiency is level 5 +3% * 5 points My calculations put me at 481 alpha. 2 shots would register at more than 505 1 shot should not be higher than around 481 right? Is the stacking penalty broken? dude i've taken close to or perhaps over 1000 damage from a charge sniper before.
Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:11:00 - [8] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: I think your calculations are correct, but I'm pretty sure that damage dealt considers the damage bonus/reduction vs. shields/armor. The sniper rifle has a -10% penalty to shield and a 10% bonus to armor, which could account for the number you are getting. As an example, say the scout has 210 shield and 100 armor. To remove its 210 shield, 233HP of dmg points would be subtracted from your alpha damage (233*.9=2100HP), leaving you with 248HP of dmg points left to apply to armor. This gets a bonus of 10%, so your total damage dealt to armor would be 272HP. Add the 233HP of shield dmg and you get 505HP. Edit: Someone beat me to it. But what's a body shot modifier? Are you sure that's not just the 90% efficiency against a shielded target, to which a headshot multiplier is applied if you aim for the head? I luv ur Brane! thanks! "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1368	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:19:00 - [9] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: Edit: Someone beat me to it. But what's a body shot modifier? Are you sure that's not just the 90% efficiency against a shielded target, to which a headshot multiplier is applied if you aim for the head? Your original math is right, Sana. There isn't a "body shot modifier." Headshot gets a bonus, everything else is the same. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 300/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1427	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:56:00 - [10] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: Edit: Someone beat me to it. But what's a body shot modifier? Are you sure that's not just the 90% efficiency against a shielded target, to which a headshot multiplier is applied if you aim for the head? Your original math is right, Sana. There isn't a "body shot modifier." Headshot gets a bonus, everything else is the same. My impression was Arm and Leg shots got a Penalty Head and back get a bonus. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Cpl Foster USMC The Defiants-Team 6 467	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:42:00 - [11] - Quote in matches when I only shot 1 person and only have used 1 round, my "damage done" will read 489 hp... Charge Rifle-4 complex damage and 1 enhanced damage with 5 prof for the other thing..... every time...have done it more than once...always 489 hp...... you are welcome to do the math and get back to me..... "CCP Nullarbor wrote: we havn't done it yet because it's a lot of work "
Tectonic Fusion 923	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:48:00 - [12] - Quote Cpl Foster USMC wrote: in matches when I only shot 1 person and only have used 1 round, my "damage done" will read 489 hp... Charge Rifle-4 complex damage and 1 enhanced damage with 5 prof for the other thing..... every time...have done it more than once...always 489 hp...... you are welcome to do the math and get back to me..... Why do you use an enhanced and fourth complex damage mod...they are literally pointless... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1369	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:51:00 - [13] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: My impression was Arm and Leg shots got a Penalty Head and back get a bonus. I think people got this impression from the built-in weapon type damage modifiers. They'd use an armor bonus weapon and think the 90% efficiency against a target with shields up was based on which part of the body they were aiming at. From all the testing I've done, there is only a bonus to headshots. All other shots do "normal" damage. I can freely admit to being wrong, though. I haven't tested it since CCP reworked which weapons got which shield/armor damage profile. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 300/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3080	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:52:00 - [14] - Quote Cpl Foster USMC wrote: in matches when I only shot 1 person and only have used 1 round, my "damage done" will read 489 hp... Charge Rifle-4 complex damage and 1 enhanced damage with 5 prof for the other thing..... every time...have done it more than once...always 489 hp...... you are welcome to do the math and get back to me..... Dude... Anything past 3 Complex damage modifiers is totally useless. The sacking reduces the fourth complex damage modifier to less than 3%. Something like love, something like hope. Something like beautiful, something I wrote GùòGÇ+Gå+
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 638	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:55:00 - [15] - Quote Cpl Foster USMC wrote: in matches when I only shot 1 person and only have used 1 round, my "damage done" will read 489 hp... Charge Rifle-4 complex damage and 1 enhanced damage with 5 prof for the other thing..... every time...have done it more than once...always 489 hp...... you are welcome to do the math and get back to me..... I suppose there isn't much chance that the guys you keep one-shotting have the same amount of shields? If not, then my theory is out the window XD
Cpl Foster USMC The Defiants-Team 6 467	Posted - 2014.01.03 21:25:00 - [16] - Quote ok people..... if "Sniper A" has 4 damage mods and is getting 481 hp... and "Sniper B" has 4 damage mods and 1 enhanced to get 489 hp... then there is a difference to "Target A" who has 485 total defenses..... right...? "CCP Nullarbor wrote: we havn't done it yet because it's a lot of work "
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 549	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:06:00 - [17] - Quote Anyone ever consider that some of that damage was from damaging turrets/vehicles or maybe he was shooting someone and they actually lived?
Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 57	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:18:00 - [18] - Quote Cpl Foster USMC wrote: ok people..... if "Sniper A" has 4 damage mods and is getting 481 hp... and "Sniper B" has 4 damage mods and 1 enhanced to get 489 hp... then there is a difference to "Target A" who has 485 total defenses..... right...? This is true, which is why some snipers are trying to max out their damage potential. 3% is still equal to a proficiency level. "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Kraw Zin Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:26:00 - [19] - Quote ok, I did the testing back before 1.6 and their was no penalty to using mods, and since the hit detection was so bad after 1.6 I stopped using my sniper fit. It seams that people are saying that their are now penalty's for stacking mods, I know about the recent sheild recharge penalty, but did not know about any other. Could someone please provide a link or list what the penalty's are for which mods. Thank you.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1429	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:27:00 - [20] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: My impression was Arm and Leg shots got a Penalty Head and back get a bonus. I think people got this impression from the built-in weapon type damage modifiers. They'd use an armor bonus weapon and think the 90% efficiency against a target with shields up was based on which part of the body they were aiming at. From all the testing I've done, there is only a bonus to headshots. All other shots do "normal" damage. I can freely admit to being wrong, though. I haven't tested it since CCP reworked which weapons got which shield/armor damage profile. Fair Enough, Its just what I gleened from my own adventures, but I was using a mass driver so it my experience will not apply to everyone. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:34:00 - [21] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122597 stacking penalty list from ccp is on the bottom "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Cpl Foster USMC The Defiants-Team 6 468	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:27:00 - [22] - Quote Hey Mitch.... I just had a match where I only used 1 round, 1 headshot..... did "968 damage dealt" with my suit set up as above... so 489 for a body shot and 968 headshot.....for me anyways... "CCP Nullarbor wrote: we havn't done it yet because it's a lot of work "
Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:16:00 - [23] - Quote Cpl Foster USMC wrote: Hey Mitch.... I just had a match where I only used 1 round, 1 headshot..... did "968 damage dealt" with my suit set up as above... so 489 for a body shot and 968 headshot.....for me anyways... Doesn't it feel great seeing numbers like that? Are you running 5 mods or 4? Hey if you want to tag team some matches mail me or if I'm on I always have a side channel 'snipers' open. I can also send you an inv to the 'snipers inc' channel where a lot of us can be found in one place, Atiim said it was all good, I'm so glad I asked about this. I didn't fully understand all the variables that go into the damage calculation. Thanks again to all for the input! I'm gonna really pick pick on people without shields now because of the 10% bonus, kinda like a cheetah zeroing in on the injured! "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Cpl Foster USMC The Defiants-Team 6 468	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:44:00 - [24] - Quote it was WAY higher than I thought it would be....was glad it dawned on me before I let the 2nd bullet fly that I had 1 for 1... Minmatar Medium mk.0 with 4 complex Damage mods and 1 Enhanced Damage Mod w/ 5 prof..... only reason I have for not just using 5 complex is I think 1 enhanced would be better due to a 5th stacking penalty... I'll swing by the chat sometime...thanks... "CCP Nullarbor wrote: we havn't done it yet because it's a lot of work "


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