Mortedeamor wrote:ok so ive been listening and reading the qq about tanks for about a month now..and this is what i have to say
av is not underpowered the users are being stupid
i killed 9 tanks in 1 skirm the other day witha baloch lav..and eon bpo heavy dau assault forge 1 dmg mod..at any given moment there were 4 -6 tanks on the field..they were working together and when one pulled back beyond the others for cover he died..gasps omg he died..do you mean he died from av? why yes of course why wouldnt he?
simple tank killing depending on fit
1 attack tank be it with swarms or forge drive up to him at 200m hop out and hit his ass
2 tank flicks hardeners up..land 1 more shot (this allows you to judge the current state of his hardeners)
3 drive off to pre laid nano resupply healing circle just a ways off..
4 wait wait wait (while we wait im running a methana 1 light enhanced repper 1 enhanced hardener 1 scanner no turret allows for safe transport of 2 avers)
now depending on the results of step 2..which if you recall was test tanks hardened state you do the following
5 MUSCLE THROUGH it with 1 hardener i prefer to just outright kill them as they may be running 2x-3 hardeners and cycleing ..is possible alone is easier with help
6 AMBUSH if u see that that extra shot does next to nothing..then the tanker has cut MULTIPLE HARDENERS that have a very known and calculable down time..pull off for example we are conducting step 5 and suddenly each shot starts doing nothing (what happened..tank has 2-3 hardeners..and instead of cutting 1 on ata time like he was before he flicked them all up because you almost wiped him out in this case you perform step 3 again and then move on to step 4and then to step 6)
now with swarms i did all this + added in laying re' prox traps i will never jihad it is rude and is something pathetically weak av players need to do also av over jihad would be preferred ina clone tight situation in competitive play.
and if you follow all this + for swarms have a teamate 2 proto swarmers with proto av nades and re's and proxies on 2 logi's can make mince meat of any lone tank.
USE LAVS THEY get you tot he tank they allow you to surprise him they get you the out of there...i was a tanker in chromosome i am 36 mill sp into infantry 1.2 mill sp into tanks..ive used the same tactics people used on me in chromosome with my av..vs tanks to great effect.
ive also tanker through failed avers trying to solo me on foot ..and also poorly organized av squads attempt at what i just described..and yet at the same time i personally have pulled of and watched skilled av i know of old use these simple techniques to slaughter tanks and then vehicle deny the enemy team.
so in short a message from Mortedeamor stop the QQ get good. Be a solid aver and you wont have a problem STOP running and gunning alone and get TACTICAL. also have a good day
All this may work on bad fitted stupid tankers not that those are rare these days.
And the thing with the LAV only works if the Tanker is stupid enough to let it come close. The tak pilots I have met normally prefere to shoot these down.
Also smart tankers retreat when they get hit while their hardeners are running and they can simply recall their tanks and call in a fresh one (assuming they don't runs hardeners).
If you meet a well fitted sdt HAV swarms will do literally nothing. You already need more than one clip of protoswarms with damage mods to bring down a militia HAV assuming the Pilot does not bother to use any modules.
And honestly I have never seen a HAV that goes down to swarms alone. But sure it is possible to solo unaware HAV pilots, I use RE's + packed AV nades and this work on most HAVs. This works better than the current AV options Infantry has and it works without to sacrify your anti infantry weapons (and no I don't refere to jihad LAVs)...