I"ve recently jumped into av as well, doesn't seem too bad, my guess it was better before hand

I"ve recently jumped into av as well, doesn't seem too bad, my guess it was better before hand

AV was incredibly OP before 1.7 and now that they were nerfed a tad people complain that they are too weak.

IMO I think they just fine, but tanks are the only reason people think they suck

I get swarmed a lot in my drospships. Top of the range and hardened versions can withstand alot, but not from Peoto swarms. With my hardeners down they kill me quite easily. I always have to leave before my hardener runs out so I can escape.

why is everyone saying they suck so much even though they are meant for anything but HAV's
you just need to be skilled into it to solo a ADS if you have skills into it

Why any vehicle doesn't leave when its hardeners are down or going down is beyond me. I'm thinking that's why some people get those easy vehicle kills they claim to frequently get.

Where is it written they are meant to be used against anything but HAV's.

Here's the in-game description:

"A mid-range anti-material weapon, the shoulder-mounted rocket launcher provides infantry squads with the means to effectively engage armoured vehicles and installation gun emplacements. With pre-launch lock-on capabilities and intelligent swarm missiles, it is a man-portable system able to deliver devastating payloads against material targets.

Key to its success is the swarm missile technology. Fired in salvos, each warhead is fitted with an on-board guidance controller, which introduces random deviations and unpredictable patterns into the swarm's flight path, allowing some, if not all, missiles in the salvo to defeat basic countermeasure systems."

It's implied

Light Weapon - Light Vehicles
Heavy Weapon - Heavy Vehicles

For too long Light suit AV has wanted heavy damage without the cons.

It's implied

Light Weapon - Light Vehicles
Heavy Weapon - Heavy Vehicles

For too long Light suit AV has wanted heavy damage without the cons.

and they weren't that bad against dropships, but tanks were tougher to deal with but are very good against dropships if you have the good lvl 2 and above variants like the assault or better.

I actually almost killed an ADS with one full volley of swarms but he ran away, basically it takes 2 people with std assault swarms or 1 proto assault swarm launcher(idk about ADV cuz I only have lvl 2 into swarms) but besides that swarms are supposed to be where they are right now IMO (a light AV weapon meant for light-medium vehicles such as the dropship and LAV)

tanks are tougher to deal with just because of their high EHP being at 4k and there hardeners absorbing all the dmg. IMO it would take 3-5 assault swarmers to kill a weak to decent tank fit but that is if the tank didn't have much cover.

soma's are easier to kill because you know it will have at least 1 hardener on it and its milita so it only has 2 slots.

its good against armor (I think so at least cuz I haven't used it against shields) but you have to be in a decent place with a good view to keep attacking the tank and you must have nano hives with you or else you will run out of ammo in 2 reloads.

why is everyone saying they suck so much even though they are meant for anything but HAV's
you just need to be skilled into it to solo a ADS if you have skills into it

I've been a long time follower of the eternal tank/infantry AV debate but never came across this fallacy. Interesting. So now the only viable infantry weapon against all HAV's is a slow-moving heavy suite and a forge gun. noted.

Arkena -¼_-¼ It's a sidearm, I'd class it as a secondary light weapon :P

It's implied

Light Weapon - Light Vehicles
Heavy Weapon - Heavy Vehicles

For too long Light suit AV has wanted heavy damage without the cons.

Thiiiis! So much this!

I get so sick of the army of swarm users bitching and whining about how they can't pop tanks on their own anymore.

It really boggles the mind how they couldn't figure out on their own why the AV-weapon doing the most alpha ALSO required you to wear a heavy suit to go with it.

Newsflash: it's because the swarm launcher was never intended as an effective anti-tank weapon. It was meant to be used for dropships and lavs first and foremost!

Thiiiis! So much this!

I get so sick of the army of swarm users bitching and whining about how they can't pop tanks on their own anymore.

It really boggles the mind how they couldn't figure out on their own why the AV-weapon doing the most alpha ALSO required you to wear a heavy suit to go with it.

Newsflash: it's because the swarm launcher was never intended as an effective anti-tank weapon. It was meant to be used f+¦r dropships and lavs first and foremost!