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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.01.02 20:31:00 -
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I always thought of logis as the EWar guys since you know they have 3-4 equipment slots which is where EWar equipment would be equipped. |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2014.01.02 20:39:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:I always thought of logis as the EWar guys since you know they have 3-4 equipment slots which is where EWar equipment would be equipped. Logistics ships in EVE don't do Electronic attack ships are most similar to Scouts, and that's why I say make them the best EWAR frames. Also, I've been saying to give the Scouts another eq slot as well.
But isn' a scout supposed to scout? Isn't that what it's intended role is to be a scout? Also it does not make sense to have the suit with the lowest HP go against vehicles which can 2-3 shot you with a blaster turret. If anything AV should be the heavys job not the scouts since they can actually take some damage. |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2014.01.02 21:06:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:I always thought of logis as the EWar guys since you know they have 3-4 equipment slots which is where EWar equipment would be equipped. Logistics ships in EVE don't do Electronic attack ships are most similar to Scouts, and that's why I say make them the best EWAR frames. Also, I've been saying to give the Scouts another eq slot as well. But isn' a scout supposed to scout? Isn't that what it's intended role is to be a scout? Also it does not make sense to have the suit with the lowest HP go against vehicles which can 2-3 shot you with a blaster turret. If anything AV should be the heavys job not the scouts since they can actually take some damage. Well if you can do it right it's very hard to hit a Scout. Anyways, like I said, since EWAR would be there, it would be harder to hit the Scout, and the Scout could just hit the vehicle over and over, and kill it. So no, it would be still better to have it on a Scout than a Heavy frame.
Yea no I do not agree. Sure you can dodge but why dodge when you can shoot a tank from 400m away like the heavy can? Also you would have to slow them down with a stasis webifier while the heavy doesn't he can just continue to shoot the tank until he's past 400m. Also I do not agree with implementing EMP grenades which take away vision. Take away the tankers hud? Sure but blinding him no. Also why should the scout be best at EWar? Even if you give the scout another equipment slot logis would still be better (simply because they can hold more EWar in one fit. Why bring a squishy scout who can only hold 2 EWar equipment at once when you can get a nicely tanked logi who can carry 3-4 depending on the logi) at it unless you made it useless to use for anyone but scouts but that hurts the freedom of customization which this game is built upon. Also if you give scouts more then 2 then that starts taking away from the logis role. (Which is why scouts and assaults no longer have 2 equipment slots like we used to in chromosome)
Also please answer the original question: Isn't a scouts role supposed to be scouting? Also AV is a frontline role which the scout is definitely not made for that. Als you seem to forget that there are infantry too who would love to get an easy kill on a squishy scout with only a sidearm for defense. |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2014.01.02 21:11:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:echo47 wrote:I like the idea of AV and EWAR being related. I think the AV-EWAR role would be beter on dropsuit dedicated to AV and EWAR, not a scout. It should atleast be a medium frame. Maybe a pirate faction with the sole purpose of AV-EWAR.
Blood Raider - Minmatar/Amarr
This is the suit that should get the cloak and web modules. The reason I think this is that the role of AV-EWAR should be highly specialized and SP intensive because of the huge advantage Ewar modules will give a squad. We already see what active scanners are doing, dampners mean nothing if the entire squad isn't fitted with them.
I think the special properties should be tied to higly specialized drop suit. You know how much sense this doesn't make? First off, There would be 0 reason to use the Scout. Second, medium frames are by far the worst way to do AV. The only reason why it worked before is because you could just sit in one spot. Now, you can't. Also, why make a whole new frame when you got one, and that one needs a role, which this would fit in perfectly? Also, why t=in the hell would you limit a entire role to a specific race?
Or maybe make a scout a scout. That sounds like a perfect role for a scout doesn't it? |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2014.01.03 00:09:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I like scouts in all , hell I use the suit just like most I believe do but EVERY SINGLE pro-scout thread that I have EVER SEEN has been and was entirely STUPID !!!!! STUPID because you people who do these threads have such TUNNEL VISION and short sightedness it seems , if it's possible as being somewhat racist to the other classes .
You picked that role dammit and no one forced you to but you people love to put a guilt trip on the community and I'm frankly tired of reading crap like this .
You people are clutching at straws all the time and it's somewhat pathetic . It's a role that YOU have picked and I just can't understand why YOU people do this . People are tired of Respec threads and I am tired of Pro-Scout threads .
I have yet to read ONE and I mean ONE that doesn't sound like whining .
I can agree the scout is UP but it does not need a new role. It just needs its role reinforced and make it the best at it because currently anything a scout can do a medium frame can do just as effectively or even more effectively. |
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