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          Salviatino Maiano 
          Eternal Beings
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 01:59:00 -
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          Unfortunately the rail rifle won, i shot him in the face and he shot me... somewhere... idk... but within 2m i wish a shotgun would win over most weapons.
 I'm right behind you... 
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          Viktor Hadah Jr 
          Critical-Impact
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:01:00 -
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          what suit were you wearing?
 Selling 'Templar' BPO's 
Buying 'Daemon' Shotgun BPO 
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          Patrick57 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:04:00 -
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          Same thing happened to me when I was using an Assault Rifle :/ IMO, the Rail Rifle is far too effective at all ranges. So effective that it can out do all other weapons, even in their optimal. The only way to avoid dying is too dodge their shots :I
 When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+ 
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D 
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          Salviatino Maiano 
          Eternal Beings
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:04:00 -
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          Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:what suit were you wearing?  
  Scout g/1-series with 1 enhanced shield extender, squishy suit... cheap suit He was in a Caldari medium frame C/1-Series
 I'm right behind you... 
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          Asha Starwind 
          VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:12:00 -
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          Salviatino Maiano wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:what suit were you wearing?  Scout g/1-series with 1 enhanced shield extender, squishy suit... cheap suit He was in a Caldari medium frame C/1-Series  
  Meh, could've easily been the same outcome with another weapon and not an RR. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knight Soiaire 
          BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:14:00 -
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          Lol, it took three shots from my Creodron to take down a Gal Logi in CQC, and thats with a Complex damage mod.
 
  
  Shotguns need +2 Pellets per level (12 at Basic, 14 at ADV, 16 at Proto) and an increase in optimal.
  Breach need the same thing, a damage increase, and an increase in optimal too.
 DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it. 
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          Salviatino Maiano 
          Eternal Beings
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:15:00 -
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          Asha Starwind wrote:Salviatino Maiano wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:what suit were you wearing?  Scout g/1-series with 1 enhanced shield extender, squishy suit... cheap suit He was in a Caldari medium frame C/1-Series  Meh, could've easily been the same outcome with another weapon and not an RR.  
  yep, just hoping that within 2m a CRG-3 shotgun could kill on the first shot to the upper chest and face area.... wishing
 
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          Everything Dies 
          Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:15:00 -
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          Salviatino Maiano wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:what suit were you wearing?  Scout g/1-series with 1 enhanced shield extender, squishy suit... cheap suit He was in a Caldari medium frame C/1-Series  
  Sigh...facing a stiff breeze in a scout suit is a losing battle, much less an actual weapon. 
 Life is killing me. 
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          Patrick57 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:16:00 -
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          Knight Soiaire wrote:Lol, it took three shots from my Creodron to take down a Gal Logi in CQC, and thats with a Complex damage mod.  Shotguns need +2 Pellets per level (12 at Basic, 14 at ADV, 16 at Proto) and an increase in optimal. Breach need the same thing, a damage increase, and an increase in optimal too.   They were from Nyain San, right?  
 When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+ 
Logi ak.0 Best Logi :D 
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          Knight Soiaire 
          BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 02:20:00 -
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          Patrick57 wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Lol, it took three shots from my Creodron to take down a Gal Logi in CQC, and thats with a Complex damage mod.  Shotguns need +2 Pellets per level (12 at Basic, 14 at ADV, 16 at Proto) and an increase in optimal. Breach need the same thing, a damage increase, and an increase in optimal too.  They were from Nyain San, right?    
  Some wierd Asian corporation, but not Nyain San.
 DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it. 
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          Charlotte O'Dell 
          Fatal Absolution
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 06:42:00 -
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          needs 50% dmg buff
 Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn! 
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          RuckingFetard 
          Better Hide R Die
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 06:47:00 -
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          Knight Soiaire wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Lol, it took three shots from my Creodron to take down a Gal Logi in CQC, and thats with a Complex damage mod.  Shotguns need +2 Pellets per level (12 at Basic, 14 at ADV, 16 at Proto) and an increase in optimal. Breach need the same thing, a damage increase, and an increase in optimal too.  They were from Nyain San, right?    Some wierd Asian corporation, but not Nyain San.   MOTTAINI JAPAN or KAIBA Corporation?
 The Last Of The BHD 
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          Aria Gomes 
          Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 06:49:00 -
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          Definitely agree about the Rail Rifle being too effective. I fought a RR in pretty much CQ with my CR and got murdered. Last I check, it was supposed to be a long range weapon like the laser rifle. | 
      
      
      
          
          PARKOUR PRACTIONER 
          Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 06:52:00 -
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          Allotek shotty OHKs anything, but the clip size is frustrating.
 'Don't talk to stranger, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT 
I will never stop killing you. 
Dropship Pilot/Ninja/Sniper 
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          Nocturnal Soul 
          Immortal Retribution
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 07:18:00 -
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          Aria Gomes wrote:Definitely agree about the Rail Rifle being too effective. I fought a RR in pretty much CQ with my CR and got murdered. Last I check, it was supposed to be a long range weapon like the laser rifle.   I used my proto lr today was doing pretty well till some dip sh&t pointed a RR at me in my optimal.
 "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein 
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          Scout Registry 
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 07:39:00 -
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          The problem has more to do with the SG than the RR. 
  The Shotgun's current alpha doesn't offset its low rate of fire and extremely limited range. The shotgun's long-standing record of underperformance versus rifles in CQC could and should be fixed. Buffing the SG is not only warranted; it makes more sense than nerfing rifles.
  Disclaimer: I use both weapons regularly (Proficiency IV in Rail Rifle, IV in Shotgun). | 
      
      
      
          
          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR 
          F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 07:44:00 -
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          that's why when i use my shotgun, i generally don't engage head on, especially against Assault RRs.
  who am i kidding? i never engage an Assault RR, unless i'm using one myself! that thing will drop you faster then you can blink.  
 Words cannot describe the sadness i feel because Zero No Tsukaima is over ;_; the feels...THE FEELS... 
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          Lynn Beck 
          Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 07:47:00 -
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          I've tried damage modded kr17 breach shotties, i've tried triple shield extender k5 specialists, they're passable- until a frontline fit using rail rifles comes into play. Oddly my kr17 breach doesn't even instakill MILITIA amarr mediums...! Shotguns need some serious love- or all AR types need nerfed. My 363 to 80 HP scout should survive past 6 standard RR shots, but it doesn't. kaalakiota RR's somehow do 90-115 damage a shot, and i'm not joking.(got hit 2x by a Krr at 80m, death screen says 240hp.)
 Under 28db 
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) 
I have a God, His name is Dakka. 
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          Scout Registry 
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 07:47:00 -
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          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:that's why when i use my shotgun, i generally don't engage head on, especially against Assault RRs. who am i kidding? i never engage an Assault RR, unless i'm using one myself! that thing will drop you faster then you can blink.    
  The aRR is utter crap at range though. You're much better off (IMO) using the standard RR and carrying a high alpha sidearm for CQC openings/closings. | 
      
      
      
          
          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR 
          F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 07:53:00 -
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          Scout Registry wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:that's why when i use my shotgun, i generally don't engage head on, especially against Assault RRs. who am i kidding? i never engage an Assault RR, unless i'm using one myself! that thing will drop you faster then you can blink.    The aRR is utter crap at range though. You're much better off (IMO) using the standard RR and carrying a high alpha sidearm for CQC openings/closings.   i generally use the Ishukone Assault RR when i'm playing Support for my squad, and the Kaalakiota RR at maps like Manus Peak where there is lots of open space and i'm playing more of a siege/assault role.
 Words cannot describe the sadness i feel because Zero No Tsukaima is over ;_; the feels...THE FEELS... 
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          Galvan Nized 
          Deep Space Republic
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 08:19:00 -
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          Shotguns definitely lack in comparison to rifles in CQC. I hate how precise you must be with the shotgun to make up for the low rof. The RR user can literally close their eyes and hold trigger sweeping left and right and likely beat the shotgun. All rifles really.
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          Chibi Andy 
          Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 08:46:00 -
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          Salviatino Maiano wrote:Unfortunately the rail rifle won, i shot him in the face and he shot me... somewhere... idk... but within 2m i wish a shotgun would win over most weapons.  
 
  you think thats bad? 
  my HMG loses to a CR the in my optimal range  
  that thing does more dmg than usual   my total EHP of 1200 goes away just like that  
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          Midas Fool 
          Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 10:09:00 -
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          Salviatino Maiano wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:what suit were you wearing?  Scout g/1-series with 1 enhanced shield extender, squishy suit... cheap suit He was in a Caldari medium frame C/1-Series  
 
  
  Scouts are really easy to just headshot while they're running ar you with a shotty. He could've done it with any weapon.
 +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY 
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          OZAROW 
          Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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        Posted - 2014.01.02 11:19:00 -
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          It's not that, it's that once they get hit in the back they turn an jump backwards and your sg is out of range, scouts still need two shots to kill my scout, figure that out | 
      
      
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