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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:28:00 -
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3145wp
36 kills
7 deaths
43k suit
271K ISK
I could only restock 5 suits. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2493
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:29:00 -
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I agree its something that needs to change, Ill be talking about it at next meeting.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
351
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:29:00 -
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'cause you have killed MLT/STD/ADV people.
Face a protostomp squad and kill them, and you see your reward skyrocket.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3510
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:31:00 -
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I once went 31-7 with 4300 WP and got 500k ISK =D Flix Keptick can testify :)
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1251
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:34:00 -
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Jastad wrote:'cause you have killed MLT/STD/ADV people.
Face a protostomp squad and kill them, and you see your reward skyrocket.
I guess I assumed I would get more because my team were doing pretty badly.
Once went only 29-7 and got 450K, that was Molon Labe so yeh I guess you have a point but
it's a lot of effort for such little reward.
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1251
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:36:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:I agree its something that needs to change, Ill be talking about it at next meeting.
thank you.
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1251
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:37:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I once went 31-7 with 4300 WP and got 500k ISK =D Flix Keptick can testify :)
lol i read that as flix keptick can be tasty! |
Uravm0d groundforce
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
25
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:58:00 -
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I would like to see a way for more experience players to be making more isk |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1725
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:00:00 -
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ISK payouts are to high imo. to many running in proto.
Selling 'Templar' BPO's
Buying 'Daemon' Shotgun BPO
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3523
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:06:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I once went 31-7 with 4300 WP and got 500k ISK =D Flix Keptick can testify :) lol i read that as flix keptick can be tasty!
wat
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:14:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I once went 31-7 with 4300 WP and got 500k ISK =D Flix Keptick can testify :) lol i read that as flix keptick can be tasty! wat
meth is one helluva drug! |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
633
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:17:00 -
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Its like planetside 2 all over again, you play it and you're fighting for nothing, now in dust you're losing isk instead of gaining which makes it less fun.
20/3/3 kill assist
200k isk
115k isk scout suit (REALLY! fix this cost)
Doesn't pay for those scout suits
Assassination is my thing.
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
1124
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:48:00 -
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Just needs to be explained in full detail. |
PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
158
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:51:00 -
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Double the cost of proto suits, and increase Isk payout by 50-70%. I wouldn't mind being able to lose advanced suits and still making a profit. Proto IMO if you lose 1 you lose profit that match.
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
4179
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:55:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:I once went 31-7 with 4300 WP and got 500k ISK =D Flix Keptick can testify :) lol i read that as flix keptick can be tasty!
Yep, me too.
DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
71
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:57:00 -
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First of all. Isk pay out are egnouth.
If youre getting low payouts, then youre scrub that kill militia/std redberries.
Man. Just help to team, destroy some tanks and you got 500k. Decent payout.
2nd. Proto stuff should cost more. This should be smth very good (as it is now), but not soo easy to get. Now its other way. Proto is like std. You can run it all day long, still +on wallet |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
490
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:11:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Its like planetside 2 all over again, you play it and you're fighting for nothing, now in dust you're losing isk instead of gaining which makes it less fun.
20/3/3 kill assist
200k isk
115k isk scout suit (REALLY! fix this cost)
Doesn't pay for those scout suits
You have to remember that suits must be somewhat expensive or payout low or else it just becomes proto stomp after proto stomp..thereby hurting newbs even more. We don't need to scare anymore players away.
ISK is the only factor limiting people from running over new players and the only way new players gain any traction.
A better question is why are so many people bent on running proto in a pub match? You are not playing for anything yet you are pulling out the best. Then people think their KDR in pubs is meaningful and that it's their skill not their suit that is propelling them. Then they start losing Isk and complain.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2780
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:13:00 -
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What's the point in lower level gear if you can afford to constantly run better stuff?
No.
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Spectre-M
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
162
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:18:00 -
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PC isk farms are also a big issue. It allows for a huge wealth gap for new players who can't afford to fight back the proto crews. Then you have district locking by alt corps so the isk fountain keeps hemorrhaging into their pockets.
Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist
Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3535
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:19:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:What's the point in lower level gear if you can afford to constantly run better stuff?
I can afford to run Proto, but I don't on a regular basis.
I guess it's just because I don't want to anymore.
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
2001
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:21:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:3145wp
36 kills
7 deaths
43k suit
271K ISK
I could only restock 5 suits.
When I have games like this I earn about 400k ISK. However, I'm usually popping tanks, killing proto AV, destroying endless BPO LAVs, etcetera. If I get 270k it's because the enemy were using low level gear and I wasn't popping enough vehicles.
Still, sometimes it seems like you should get a megacrapton of ISK and you get nothing, inexplicably. I've had matches where I'm 1st by a healthy lead and it seemed like I was popping protos and tanks all match and only gotten 250k. 
As for players running proto, well, I just want payouts to feel more consistent. IMO, they are already dependent enough on performance; the difference between a 200k and 400k payout and what you can fund is huge. It's just inconsistent, so it's hard to judge what I can toss on to the battlefield.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
352
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:22:00 -
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Jastad wrote:'cause you have killed MLT/STD/ADV people.
Face a protostomp squad and kill them, and you see your reward skyrocket.
Guys,payout is made on something like this
Gear Destroyed : Position in chart.
So if you face Noobs and STD people you get really low payout.
If you face protostompers squad you get a lot more.
And if you think, it's right even "lore" wise.Because we are fighting for Corporations with IMMORTAL clone, so Death isn't a stat when you can dispose of the corpse and restart. Destroying a enemy corporation's gear is more valuable.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
218
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:23:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:3145wp
36 kills
7 deaths
43k suit
271K ISK
I could only restock 5 suits.
Yeah sometimes the payouts aren't very great.
Had a game;
5100 WP
42 Kills
3 Deaths
185k Suit
486k ISK payout.
After the initial enemy rush in proto most of them switched to basic/militia gear. Severely nerfs the end game payout. |
Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
10
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:25:00 -
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My suggestion from a few days ago.
Asha Starwind wrote:Personally I'd prefer a battle commission that's paid on the spot when you kill a suit, or destroy a vehicle (i.e. you get paid 25% of whatever that proto-suit you just dropped, 10% if it's an assist. *clone has to die*) It'd be reflected on the end of the battle report but it still be separate that way if you get DC'd part way through the match it is somewhat of a wash and your simply aren't just out the suits you lost.
Feels like I should make a separate thread about this. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2013
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:30:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:ISK payouts are to high imo. to many running in proto.
They are financing them through PC, not Pub match earnings.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
73
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:38:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:ISK payouts are to high imo. to many running in proto.
Its hardly the isk earned in "pub games" that allows so many players to spend all their time in proto gear, its PCs millions and millions and bigger corps funding them... at least that what I think is behind some people running proto all the time... |
medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
396
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:45:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:3145wp
36 kills
7 deaths
43k suit
271K ISK
I could only restock 5 suits. 271k isk is a good payout in pub matches. Unless you were using proto gear or died one too many times in advanced gear, in which case "BaHAhaHahA"! 
Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
3264
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:45:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:I once went 31-7 with 4300 WP and got 500k ISK =D Flix Keptick can testify :)
I testify lol.
Lack of content makes stuff broken...
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
3264
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:47:00 -
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I destroy 6 enemy tanks, 4 std and only get 350k -_- ... while I probably made them loose around 2 mil
Lack of content makes stuff broken...
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Darius Ashran
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
55
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:51:00 -
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J0hlss0n wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:ISK payouts are to high imo. to many running in proto. Its hardly the isk earned in "pub games" that allows so many players to spend all their time in proto gear, its PCs millions and millions and bigger corps funding them... at least that what I think is behind some people running proto all the time...
Actually, in point of fact, its not millions, tens of millions, or hundreds of millions. The corporations supplying their good squads with tons of disposable income for proto stomping have Billions of isk. Those of you who have not or are not involved in PC don't seem to realize just how much money those corporations make daily from holding and farming those territory's. That's why they resort to fight club instead of real wars. There is no strong incentive to risk your districts( essentially your money tree) to get a another hundred millions a day or so.
Its simply a matter of practical self interest. And CCP refuses to address this issue. So the huge amount of isk build up and the major corporations start handing out 10s of millions like candy to their favored members. Sometimes to all members. And they flood Pubs and FW with proto squads.
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
1341
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Posted - 2014.01.02 01:57:00 -
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Man I B***** about this before and I all I got was grief. You are right the ISK payout does not equal the work you do. I decided to run cheap standard gear and once I reach a certain level of ISK I will run proto until I run out, then I will repeat the process. I want to run gear I like to play with and not feel pressured when I lose one. ISK payout needs to equal work not some equation CCP keeps locked away like its the formula to a soda recipe.
TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3540
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Posted - 2014.01.02 02:00:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Man I B***** about this before and I all I got was grief. You are right the ISK payout does not equal the work you do. I decided to run cheap standard gear and once I reach a certain level of ISK I will run proto until I run out, then I will repeat the process. I want to run gear I like to play with and not feel pressured when I lose one. ISK payout needs to equal work not some equation CCP keeps locked away like its the formula to a soda recipe.
A soda recipe? Would've been better if you'd said the Krabby Patty Secret Formula 
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