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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5233	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:34:00 - [1] - Quote Going toe to toe with a tank with just my remote explosives, managed to use cover so I could plant three on his hull. I have 100 HP left, I manage to GTFO, activate the remote explosives aaaaand.... Tank not dead. I am not amused about the fact that three remote explosives aren't enough to get rid of even the base HP of a tank. I risk my clone to try and get up close, and the tanker WILL see me because of third person. If I manage to get close, often the tanker will move and won't let me plant all three remotes. In the rare times I do manage to do it, AND survive as I run away, he just eats the blast and goes back to his redline to regenerate. a¦á_a¦á Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1171	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:37:00 - [2] - Quote takes 4 RE to kill a tank from the rear right now. : ( Fun > Realism
Tectonic Fusion 909	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:37:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Going toe to toe with a tank with just my remote explosives, managed to use cover so I could plant three on his hull. I have 100 HP left, I manage to GTFO, activate the remote explosives aaaaand.... Tank not dead. I am not amused about the fact that three remote explosives aren't enough to get rid of even the base HP of a tank. I risk my clone to try and get up close, and the tanker WILL see me because of third person. If I manage to get close, often the tanker will move and won't let me plant all three remotes. In the rare times I do manage to do it, AND survive as I run away, he just eats the blast and goes back to his redline to regenerate. a¦á_a¦á Did you chuck 3 packed AV grenades first? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4260	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:39:00 - [4] - Quote Yanno, you did post a reply in my thread about the same thing forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames)1544109 (Advertisement)1556863 (Packs)1570030 (Lag Hunt) 1570201
Whinis Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 22	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:40:00 - [5] - Quote Can we kill tanks without having to get a new suit per tank ?
Amarrgheddon Warcaste 8	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:44:00 - [6] - Quote I am actually afk from a match right now with moitanni Japan. The match rubber banded until all the tanks were on the ground. Now it is slaughter. Can't even spawn.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2010	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:54:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Going toe to toe with a tank with just my remote explosives, managed to use cover so I could plant three on his hull. I have 100 HP left, I manage to GTFO, activate the remote explosives aaaaand.... Tank not dead. I am not amused about the fact that three remote explosives aren't enough to get rid of even the base HP of a tank. I risk my clone to try and get up close, and the tanker WILL see me because of third person. If I manage to get close, often the tanker will move and won't let me plant all three remotes. In the rare times I do manage to do it, AND survive as I run away, he just eats the blast and goes back to his redline to regenerate. a¦á_a¦á Try detonating them with a Flux or AV grenade. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
echo47 Minmatar Republic 146	Posted - 2014.01.01 20:55:00 - [8] - Quote Personally I think we need a dedicated AV dropsuit. Maybe a bonus to the amount of active or carried RE's. Or a bounus to the number of AV nades that can be carried. AV is more than a role now. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 489	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:06:00 - [9] - Quote Try it with Boundless remotes, you can carry 4 of those...should do the trick. If you can get a couple AV nades or fluxes off that should take the shields down enough that the 3 remotes will kill. Or if you have them, take a shot with the PlC or Swarms...preferably PlC. I know the combination of this is nearly impossible unless the tank is completely stationary and doesn't notice you.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5236	Posted - 2014.01.01 22:02:00 - [10] - Quote echo47 wrote: Personally I think we need a dedicated AV dropsuit. Maybe a bonus to the amount of active or carried RE's. Or a bounus to the number of AV nades that can be carried. AV is more than a role now. Even if you could carry more, do you think the tanker will let you plant all of those? It's rare that you have time to plant all three, tankers got a perfect view of everything because of third person, so they'll just move away. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 623	Posted - 2014.01.01 22:04:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: takes 4 RE to kill a tank from the rear right now. : ( dependson the tank. many militia go down in 3. even some higher level ones go down in 3, if they are silly enough to put everything in hardeners and damage mods, instead of extra tank. and a lot of times, they will survive with just a few hundred left, in which case a quick AV grenade finishes them off.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5236	Posted - 2014.01.01 22:05:00 - [12] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Mobius Kaethis wrote: takes 4 RE to kill a tank from the rear right now. : ( dependson the tank. many militia go down in 3. even some higher level ones go down in 3, if they are silly enough to put everything in hardeners and damage mods, instead of extra tank. and a lot of times, they will survive with just a few hundred left, in which case a quick AV grenade finishes them off. Uhh, I am talking about militia tanks. Three remotes can't even get past the base HP of tanks. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1351	Posted - 2014.01.01 22:15:00 - [13] - Quote echo47 wrote: Personally I think we need a dedicated AV dropsuit. Maybe a bonus to the amount of active or carried RE's. Or a bounus to the number of AV nades that can be carried. AV is more than a role now. I use an Amarr logi, plc, flux nades and three prox mines - two advanced and one standard. The armor bonus from the suit helps with hp and the self rep is good and the three slots allows 8 proxes out at once, 9 if you hit a NH. It works well and isn't that expensive. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
echo47 Minmatar Republic 148	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:14:00 - [14] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: echo47 wrote: Personally I think we need a dedicated AV dropsuit. Maybe a bonus to the amount of active or carried RE's. Or a bounus to the number of AV nades that can be carried. AV is more than a role now. I use an Amarr logi, plc, flux nades and three prox mines - two advanced and one standard. The armor bonus from the suit helps with hp and the self rep is good and the three slots allows 8 proxes out at once, 9 if you hit a NH. It works well and isn't that expensive. I know I use a minmatar logi with RE's and proxies. One more the thing Logistics suits do better than an assaults. And I just got my forge gun to level V in an effort to adapt. But shouldn't you have to use a logi to you you know logi? If I have to skill into yet another dropsuit I would want that suit to specialzed for its role and use. The more I read posts about how OP tanks are, the tatics "PRO AV forum warriors" use to solo, and see how tanks perform in game the more I think a dedicated AV suit with bonuses focused on AV is needed. Infantry should not have to settle with just pushing a tank back. Just my thoughts. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1051	Posted - 2014.01.01 23:47:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Going toe to toe with a tank with just my remote explosives, managed to use cover so I could plant three on his hull. I have 100 HP left, I manage to GTFO, activate the remote explosives aaaaand.... Tank not dead. I am not amused about the fact that three remote explosives aren't enough to get rid of even the base HP of a tank. I risk my clone to try and get up close, and the tanker WILL see me because of third person. If I manage to get close, often the tanker will move and won't let me plant all three remotes. In the rare times I do manage to do it, AND survive as I run away, he just eats the blast and goes back to his redline to regenerate. a¦á_a¦á Silly Cat you had to place ten remotes, plus offer a honeyed lamb to the DEVS plus have six forge gunners, plus five swarmers just to drop its shields so say most "tankers"...lol! Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 491	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:08:00 - [16] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: echo47 wrote: Personally I think we need a dedicated AV dropsuit. Maybe a bonus to the amount of active or carried RE's. Or a bounus to the number of AV nades that can be carried. AV is more than a role now. I use an Amarr logi, plc, flux nades and three prox mines - two advanced and one standard. The armor bonus from the suit helps with hp and the self rep is good and the three slots allows 8 proxes out at once, 9 if you hit a NH. It works well and isn't that expensive. You can also run proxies with a nanohive, takes a bit more time but then you can lay the 9 down. Or run Proto and lay even more down. Or if you are running FW you can mix in some remotes, the proxy explosion will set them off. It's actually the most damaging way to set up as remotes do much more damage. Proximity mines aren't very useful themselves because they do low damage and don't get the underside bonus like they should. Plus these are totally defensive but are made worthless against hardeners, so any line you set up is easily crossed.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 599	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:12:00 - [17] - Quote echo47 wrote: But shouldn't you have to use a logi to you you know logi? If I have to skill into yet another dropsuit I would want that suit to specialzed for its role and use. Demolitions is a valid logistics role you know. btw cat_merc, were you using standard, or advanced+ remotes? I heard that standard remotes do half the damage that standard ones do. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1116	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:17:00 - [18] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: echo47 wrote: But shouldn't you have to use a logi to you you know logi? If I have to skill into yet another dropsuit I would want that suit to specialzed for its role and use. I heard that standard remotes do half the damage that standard ones do. umm...wat? Words cannot describe the sadness i feel because Zero No Tsukaima is over ;_; the feels...THE FEELS...
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 599	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:40:00 - [19] - Quote er, standard do half what advanced do. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 491	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:04:00 - [20] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: er, standard do half what advanced do. No they all do 1500 dmg, the only difference between tiers is amount carried and deployed. Plus activation time is faster.

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix 1417	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:07:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Going toe to toe with a tank with just my remote explosives, managed to use cover so I could plant three on his hull. I have 100 HP left, I manage to GTFO, activate the remote explosives aaaaand.... Tank not dead. I am not amused about the fact that three remote explosives aren't enough to get rid of even the base HP of a tank. I risk my clone to try and get up close, and the tanker WILL see me because of third person. If I manage to get close, often the tanker will move and won't let me plant all three remotes. In the rare times I do manage to do it, AND survive as I run away, he just eats the blast and goes back to his redline to regenerate. a¦á_a¦á I RE'd a Gunnlogi today with 3 RE's while he was uhardened. Still didn't kill him. I was pissed. Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 483	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:12:00 - [22] - Quote Bigger damage from below. Or at least it was. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 415	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:26:00 - [23] - Quote Just have to pop in here really quick. Putting them on the tank's weak spot is not the same as hitting them with Swarms, Plasma Cannon, or Forge Gun in their weak spot. From my experience, AV nades and R/E's do not do damage to weak spots. Unless someone wants to post a video and prove me wrong. I'll also be happy to help in any testing for that. Secondly, Remote Explosive does explosive damage. Hence it does 80% damage to shields and 120% to armor. I'll figure out math calculations if anyone wants to know what 3 R/E's will do to a stock Gunlogi but I have to play a match real quick. // Support Logi / Logi Bro // Forge Gunner // @KazeEyrou
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 599	Posted - 2014.01.02 01:51:00 - [24] - Quote I always flux tanks after dropping REs on them for this reason. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace


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