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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.01 20:44:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:2 days ago i afk'd for minmatar in afternoon and won 16 of 18 matches. All i ever do is drop 3 uplinks by home point to farm some wp then i go hide in corner.
Maybe I should do just that
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1640
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Posted - 2014.01.01 20:49:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Free Beers wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Free Beers wrote:2 days ago i afk'd for minmatar in afternoon and won 16 of 18 matches. All i ever do is drop 3 uplinks by home point to farm some wp then i go hide in corner. Yep the FW system is severely broken, AFKing in Minmatar and Gallente is still almost a guaranteed win, where as Caldari and Amarr require at least one full coordinated squad to have a chance and even then its 50/50. I agree totally. Hence why i posted a thread on what changes ccp needs to make for 1.8. Also we team Qsync for amarr and caldari daily it seems you can roll with us i you really want to fight a real battle I might just take you up on that, same channel as caldari event?
I'll email you in game
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
749
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:30:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Winning matters. If you want to just be rewarded for showing up you can play pubs. This isn't going to change so best not lose
Yes, winning matters but there is something to be said for loyalty to a corporation, even corporations that are NPC factions.
I'm pretty sure the Caldari and the Amarr appreciate anyone who signs up to fight for them game after game when they do nothing but get stomped. And let's face it the guys who play for those teams aren't awful, but I'd be hard pressed to wear any good combat gear if I knew we were going to get steamrolled.
Wouldn't the Caldari or Amarr appreciate the loyalty that people have to their cause?
Hey, I'm not saying that losing battles should be compensated equally, but the guys who choose to fight for the losing side should get a small faction boost.
Because I play Minmatar and occasionally play Gallente I'm on the team that almost always wins. It is super hard to get matches now. In some matches I see Minmarar squads camping a single red CRU. 12 guys stand around and shred any red that spawns there. It seems sort of silly.
A small faction boost to the losing side might encourage people to play factions that are getting stomped because nobody wants FW to become like PC.
Just sayin'
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:03:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:Free Beers wrote:Winning matters. If you want to just be rewarded for showing up you can play pubs. This isn't going to change so best not lose Yes, winning matters but there is something to be said for loyalty to a corporation, even corporations that are NPC factions. I'm pretty sure the Caldari and the Amarr appreciate anyone who signs up to fight for them game after game when they do nothing but get stomped. And let's face it the guys who play for those teams aren't awful, but I'd be hard pressed to wear any good combat gear if I knew we were going to get steamrolled. Wouldn't the Caldari or Amarr appreciate the loyalty that people have to their cause? Hey, I'm not saying that losing battles should be compensated equally, but the guys who choose to fight for the losing side should get a small faction boost. Because I play Minmatar and occasionally play Gallente I'm on the team that almost always wins. It is super hard to get matches now. In some matches I see Minmarar squads camping a single red CRU. 12 guys stand around and shred any red that spawns there. It seems sort of silly. A small faction boost to the losing side might encourage people to play factions that are getting stomped because nobody wants FW to become like PC. Just sayin' To me this is a bit of diff issues you bring up. check my FW 1.8 changes lots of similar discussions there. Munch
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1493
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:06:00 -
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You should get more standings based on performance. Why do I get the same LP as someone going 1/10 if I go 50/0?
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3527
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:16:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:It should be based on consecutive matches played for the same faction. The more matches you play for the same faction in a row the more standing you get per match. Also LP should at least be partially based on in game performance, it makes no sense that the guy who gets 30+ kills and 3000 WP gets the same LP as the guys who goes 0 - 15 with 50 WP. You must've taken this example from Caldari FW, when someone good actually fights for them
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
623
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:25:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Ok so here is a scenario.
Player 1 plays 20 matches for Amarr, loose all of them at 0.3KDR Player 2 plays 3 mathces for Amarr, wins all of them at 5KDR
Which one do you think the Amarrians will like more?
KDR is irrelevant.
Wins are not. WP is not.
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1495
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:30:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Ok so here is a scenario.
Player 1 plays 20 matches for Amarr, loose all of them at 0.3KDR Player 2 plays 3 mathces for Amarr, wins all of them at 5KDR
Which one do you think the Amarrians will like more? KDR is irrelevant. Wins are not. WP is not. KDR is irrelevant? Lmao good luck having your entire team go under a 1 KDR and still winning the match
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:32:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Marston VC wrote:Galvan Nized wrote:And what would prevent people from just AFK match after match?
I don't mind basing LP somewhat on performance as long as what is gained isn't huge between each place. We don't need to turn matches onto WP farms, the system would be easily abused.
Are you serious? The current formula ENCOURAGES AFKing all match! The fact that you can do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and get the exact same payout as everyone else encourages AFK farming! This system would partially solve that. Or at least make it more fair for those who do try. Ha, what are you talking about? If you AFK now you have a good chance of NOT winning the match. Sure everyone on that team got the same reward ie nothing. Yes, the imbalance in FW means you can AFK as Minnie or Gal and still win but if enough people do this there is little hope of winning. Adding in loser LP points just means I find a nice place to AFK. I don't care if you teamkill me, I'll just report you. I can run starter suits so no Isk loss. I can periodically check back on the match to see if I die. I can gain 10 lp for 0 isk or I can spend 100k+ Isk for 50 LP. You can tk if you want. CCP won't ban you you just will be kicked for 24 hours if you tk too much. |
Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.01 22:39:00 -
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I am not in support for standing going up with losses
Performance should determine LP payouts modified by standing, I do think FW should be a social thing, which squading is required.
I think FW could be fixed by putting a 5 mil sp entry, and no auto 4 selected factions, you have to chose one, that would push out a lot of the scrubs.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:04:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Ok so here is a scenario.
Player 1 plays 20 matches for Amarr, loose all of them at 0.3KDR Player 2 plays 3 mathces for Amarr, wins all of them at 5KDR
Which one do you think the Amarrians will like more?
The Tweny match. Loyalty you know what it means ?
Standings is supposed to be based ON LOYALTY not on performance. That's why Standings should be base on consecutive matches (A match count with a minimum of 300WP). And LP reward on performance.
With the standings affecting the LP reward AFTER it was affected by perf.
Exemple : High standing (Max) = 50% bonus.
You won 500LP based on your score. (exemple) With the standing you won 750LP.
It sohuld be like that and not the actual system. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
805
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Posted - 2014.01.02 01:17:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:The Tweny match. Loyalty you know what it means ?
Standings is supposed to be based ON LOYALTY not on performance. That's why Standings should be base on consecutive matches (A match count with a minimum of 300WP). And LP reward on performance.
With the standings affecting the LP reward AFTER it was affected by perf.
Exemple : High standing (Max) = 50% bonus.
You won 500LP based on your score. (exemple) With the standing you won 750LP.
It sohuld be like that and not the actual system. Well said, I'm putting this in the OP.
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