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CRYPT3C W0LF
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:11:00 -
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For if you're infantry running around in the open, and there are tanks, Simply stay inside.
Usually if Im tired of being killed by tankers, I pull out my forge gun
Come in a cheep Sica and blast them back to hell
Kamikaze them with your Jihad jeep,
I enjoy the countless threads that tanks are soooo OP, although they've had it hard for over half a year... Being soloed by a Proto swarm fit that costs 200k, while the tanks is over a million... Pretty Ironic if you ask me. CPP has done what they envisioned, creating tanks to be a feared and powerful asset in battle, not just some niche item... they've become very powerful yes, but are easily still quite destroyable
Also for anyone that has speced into Swarm launchers, they are AREA DENIAL weapons, used for taking out LAV's and Dropships... Not some heavily armored tank 
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster"
Friedrich Nietzsche-
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9466
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:13:00 -
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There's so much wrong in this thread that my house is actually upside down right now.
Videos
"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting"
~ Sun Tzu
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
124
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:20:00 -
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I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:32:00 -
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I think tanks need roll down windows so that the can simply drive up, roll down, and enter their hacking pin into the station.
also a tag along meat wagon, like a lawn tractor that can vacum leaves off your lawn, but in game to be used for the bodies of the hundreds of av'ers that get mowned down daily.
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
967
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:34:00 -
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To scale the area that's available to tanks is probably about the same to what only available to infantry.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
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Bunny Demon
Scions of Athra
52
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:40:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match.
Limit the amount of each vehicle type not a single limit
Eg
4 tanks
10 lavs
6 dropships
Amarr logi ftw :D
(Also...ScR is pretty good)
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:51:00 -
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Bunny Demon wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Limit the amount of each vehicle type not a single limit Eg 4 tanks 10 lavs 6 dropships
get rid of 3rd person views in vehicles (this is an fps), and the ability to hear anything but the vehicle when inside one. try these first. I do not tank myself, but know that MBT's are needed, I have AV prof, but it's useless becaause we have tanks to kill tanks and to kill lavs. AVing with only an SMG sucks! av should be my third weapon with a weight penalty...lol,,,ounces are pounds, and pounds are pain. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
412
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:58:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match.
Do you really believe it takes more than one AV infantry to take out modern RL tanks? Just on sidenote most real tanks have a crew of 3 to 4 men....so please don't come up with real life examples most HAV pilots would be quite upset if tanks w ere like our modern tanks.... |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:06:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Do you really believe it takes more than one AV infantry to take out modern RL tanks? Just on sidenote most real tanks have a crew of 3 to 4 men....so please don't come up with real life examples most HAV pilots would be quite upset if tanks w ere like our modern tanks....
modern M1A1 with a Bradley spoting can engage and kill a T-EIEIO's at 2 miles. |
Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
614
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:08:00 -
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I agree with the OP, shut up already.
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:13:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:I agree with the OP, shut up already.
make me, slick |
WUT ANG
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
46
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:25:00 -
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I personally think havs are in a good place now. without hardeners it takes 3 - 4 volleys from a swarm to kill with same lvl swarm std av vs std hav with hardners 3 - 4 volleys from 3 - 4 mercs that's a good challenge. |
ReGnYuM
Imperfects
1650
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:37:00 -
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In PC I have no issue with tanks. They fill their roles.
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PUBs is a joke
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
To the Matari, I am the equivalent to the Boogie Man
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2872
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:48:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match.
Go search up the Javelin on YouTube and get back to me on that.
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Taurion Bruni
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
212
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:56:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Bunny Demon wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Limit the amount of each vehicle type not a single limit Eg 4 tanks 10 lavs 6 dropships get rid of 3rd person views in vehicles (this is an fps), and the ability to hear anything but the vehicle when inside one. try these first. I do not tank myself, but know that MBT's are needed, I have AV prof, but it's useless becaause we have tanks to kill tanks and to kill lavs. AVing with only an SMG sucks! av should be my third weapon with a weight penalty...lol,,,ounces are pounds, and pounds are pain.
The 3rd person view is a must for dropships, you cannot change the angle of the turret in 1st person, so you have to be level with the enemy to kill them, and even then it is hard to do. imagine being only able to shoot straight in front of you with your infantry weapon, not easy
Pilot // Logistics
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Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
257
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:58:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match.
Just so you know, politicians are the only reason we are continuing to build "modern" tanks in the US Army. Army leadership has tried to phase out tanks in favor of lighter, mobile platforms because a single GRENADE can take out an Abrams. Politicians want the gov funds to continuing building a platform that is simply unneeded on the modern battlefield.
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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
274
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:03:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Just so you know, politicians are the only reason we are continuing to build "modern" tanks in the US Army. Army leadership has tried to phase out tanks in favor of lighter, mobile platforms because a single GRENADE can take out an Abrams. Politicians want the gov funds to continuing building a platform that is simply unneeded on the modern battlefield.
I really get tired when debates rage on my comms (EVE and Dust side) about how weapons/war in Dust should be more realistic. If it was realistic we would be drone-striking 3rd world nations from the safety of orbit and wondering why they want to blow us up.
CEO of General Tso's Alliance.
Winner of Hulkageddon IV.
Contact me on my EVE character: Burseg Sardaukar
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
8
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:41:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Just so you know, politicians are the only reason we are continuing to build "modern" tanks in the US Army. Army leadership has tried to phase out tanks in favor of lighter, mobile platforms because a single GRENADE can take out an Abrams. Politicians want the gov funds to continuing building a platform that is simply unneeded on the modern battlefield.
Grenades,,ummm NO, 100 guys with RPG's not,, 20lbs of semtex or C4 thrown on and detonated NO! You would get "S.L.A.P'd" with coax M240 BRAVO only because the inline 50cal is non ROE for infantry! |
IrishWebster
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
146
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:48:00 -
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CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:For if you're infantry running around in the open, and there are tanks, Simply stay inside. Usually if Im tired of being killed by tankers, I pull out my forge gun Come in a cheep Sica and blast them back to hell Kamikaze them with your Jihad jeep, I enjoy the countless threads that tanks are soooo OP, although they've had it hard for over half a year... Being soloed by a Proto swarm fit that costs 200k, while the tanks is over a million... Pretty Ironic if you ask me. CPP has done what they envisioned, creating tanks to be a feared and powerful asset in battle, not just some niche item... they've become very powerful yes, but are easily still quite destroyable Also for anyone that has speced into Swarm launchers, they are AREA DENIAL weapons, used for taking out LAV's and Dropships... Not some heavily armored tank
You're an idiot, and f*** you. Just no. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
8
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Go search up the Javelin on YouTube and get back to me on that.
why not indirect fire i.e. coperhead type or 155mm, you would need to laser designate target
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:59:00 -
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BursegSardaukar wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Just so you know, politicians are the only reason we are continuing to build "modern" tanks in the US Army. Army leadership has tried to phase out tanks in favor of lighter, mobile platforms because a single GRENADE can take out an Abrams. Politicians want the gov funds to continuing building a platform that is simply unneeded on the modern battlefield. I really get tired when debates rage on my comms (EVE and Dust side) about how weapons/war in Dust should be more realistic. If it was realistic we would be drone-striking 3rd world nations from the safety of orbit and wondering why they want to blow us up.
orbit's illegal since 1972 i think, so we do it from Langley and 12,000 ft, been to Ya'man or potholistan lately? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1449
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Posted - 2013.12.31 19:02:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match.
Your drunk jim. go to sleep. some body fill him in on how many RL AV is takes to take out a tank. Prepared to have your world shocked. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
8
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Posted - 2013.12.31 19:08:00 -
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Taurion Bruni wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Bunny Demon wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Limit the amount of each vehicle type not a single limit Eg 4 tanks 10 lavs 6 dropships get rid of 3rd person views in vehicles (this is an fps), and the ability to hear anything but the vehicle when inside one. try these first. I do not tank myself, but know that MBT's are needed, I have AV prof, but it's useless becaause we have tanks to kill tanks and to kill lavs. AVing with only an SMG sucks! av should be my third weapon with a weight penalty...lol,,,ounces are pounds, and pounds are pain. The 3rd person view is a must for dropships, you cannot change the angle of the turret in 1st person, so you have to be level with the enemy to kill them, and even then it is hard to do. imagine being only able to shoot straight in front of you with your infantry weapon, not easy
Agreed, you need a glass bottom on those flying death traps as well, vision sucks. let it be written and let it be so. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2013.12.31 19:17:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Do you really believe it takes more than one AV infantry to take out modern RL tanks? Just on sidenote most real tanks have a crew of 3 to 4 men....so please don't come up with real life examples most HAV pilots would be quite upset if tanks w ere like our modern tanks.... modern M1A1 with a Bradley spoting can engage and kill a T-EIEIO's at 2 miles.
Sure it can but a single RPG soldier can blow them up in one shot and Tanks are not that good vs infantry, most tanks engage othertanks and installations or IF the engage enemy infantry platoons they do it from great distances...
Urban warfare is a nightmare for tanks especially without infantry support... |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
8
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Posted - 2013.12.31 19:42:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Do you really believe it takes more than one AV infantry to take out modern RL tanks? Just on sidenote most real tanks have a crew of 3 to 4 men....so please don't come up with real life examples most HAV pilots would be quite upset if tanks w ere like our modern tanks.... modern M1A1 with a Bradley spoting can engage and kill a T-EIEIO's at 2 miles. Sure it can but a single RPG soldier can blow them up in one shot and Tanks are not that good vs infantry, most tanks engage othertanks and installations or IF the engage enemy infantry platoons they do it from great distances... Urban warfare is a nightmare for tanks especially without infantry support...
RPG's lol, only in bf3 and follywood, Dude you could with 50 of you're friends try, you may get a mobility kill, but the 4 guys inside will kill you and everyone of your friends.
just standing in front of the 120mm main gun when fired is 100% fatal and that is just the shock wave lifting you up off the ground a killing you!
and if you did get the kill, his platoon driving fresh shinny, would then lay waste to everything that moved.
i want really badass tanks, and you pointing out urban is foundational to CCP's map making problem. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2013.12.31 19:59:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:I think statwise they're inline with RL Tanks which can only really be taken out by other tanks or by alot of people with AV.
Having said that I think they need to increase the cost or limit vehicle amount in matches because more than 4 tanks on one side makes a boring match. Do you really believe it takes more than one AV infantry to take out modern RL tanks? Just on sidenote most real tanks have a crew of 3 to 4 men....so please don't come up with real life examples most HAV pilots would be quite upset if tanks w ere like our modern tanks.... modern M1A1 with a Bradley spoting can engage and kill a T-EIEIO's at 2 miles. Sure it can but a single RPG soldier can blow them up in one shot and Tanks are not that good vs infantry, most tanks engage othertanks and installations or IF the engage enemy infantry platoons they do it from great distances... Urban warfare is a nightmare for tanks especially without infantry support... RPG's lol, only in bf3 and follywood, Dude you could with 50 of you're friends try, you may get a mobility kill, but the 4 guys inside will kill you and everyone of your friends. just standing in front of the 120mm main gun when fired is 100% fatal and that is just the shock wave lifting you up off the ground a killing you! and if you did get the kill, his platoon driving fresh shinny, would then lay waste to everything that moved. i want really badass tanks, and you pointing out urban is foundational to CCP's map making problem.
RPG can penetrate roughly 600mm of armor thats enough for most tanks depending on where you hit. The same is true for most other Infantry fired Anti Tank wepaons. Not to speak of special anti tank mines...
Yes Tanks are a deadly force but the engineers do design special fitted tanks for urban warfare. A lonely tank is very vulnerable to enemy infantry.
And the same way tanks getting better and deadlier AV weapons get better and deadlier its an head to head race... |
CRYPT3C W0LF
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2013.12.31 20:38:00 -
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all the haters, keep drinking haterade 
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster"
Friedrich Nietzsche-
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1449
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Posted - 2013.12.31 22:10:00 -
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Nevermind the RPG, AT4, and the javelin. who the hell thinks RL tanks need more then 2 to take out? LOL |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
908
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Posted - 2014.01.01 17:07:00 -
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This statement is so moronic that I actually feel stupid for taking the time to tell you how idiotic it is. /thread
Buff passive scans & fix TTK!
My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
281
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Posted - 2014.01.01 17:16:00 -
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Just to agree with the original post, I realized too late why all the reds were just standing around in the road. They were sacrificing themselves to my blaster tank so I wouldn't notice the Sica their squadmate was calling. I had enough time to hit my hardener in time for the shot that killed me. 300k isk down. I should have stayed on the move, should have been in 3rd person watching for threats, but instead I was focused on 2 or 3 easy kills. GG Nyan San
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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