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TheEnd762 wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

TheEnd762 wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

If it's one tank then it should be one of every other vehicle as well . None should be looked upon as being more of an asset or important than any other if this is a fair game and you would like to measure out justice .

Um, no. Which vehicle is the most durable? How about the most deadly? Least likely to flip over? Only needs one person to drive and shoot effectively?

The only thing LAVs have over tanks is they're smaller targets that can get closer to objectives on some maps (since tanks are now almost as fast, if not FASTER than LAVs in some cases); and the only thing dropships have is getting on top of and over things since they can FLY. You put 2 or even 3 LAVs or dropships up against a single tank, and the tank is going to win 9/10 times, unless the pilot is a complete idiot, or it's a militia tank going up against assault dropships, and even then, it would be close.

Did you NOT get what I was getting at ???? I was speaking on behalf of tank users like I always do .

It seems that you didn't understand what I said .

No, you were saying all vehicles should be considered equal, if and when it comes to vehicle limits. And I said, no, that's stupid, because tanks ARE a much more exploitable asset in battle, and therefor can NOT be counted as equal to LAVs or dropships.

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yoda420 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2013.12.31 16:08:00 - [1] - Quote Now that you greatly increased the vehicles such as increaseing modules and the speed. there was no need to cut the swarmlancher max range so bad. now i have to be in a tanks face to get my first shot off and he will run off b4 the second or he will blast me away. and as for dropships they follow you around like a rain cloud and fly straight up out of range . and also please restrict the number of tanks and dropships individually per team. 8 Tanks are too many. like for example make it 2 tanks 2dropships 4jeeps on a medium map. don't let the vehicles overrun and bully everyone. I'm very tempted to go back to COD without vehicles
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1166	Posted - 2013.12.31 18:15:00 - [2] - Quote yoda420 wrote: Now that you greatly increased the vehicles such as increaseing modules and the speed. there was no need to cut the swarmlancher max range so bad. now i have to be in a tanks face to get my first shot off and he will run off b4 the second or he will blast me away. and as for dropships they follow you around like a rain cloud and fly straight up out of range . and also please restrict the number of tanks and dropships individually per team. 8 Tanks are too many. like for example make it 2 tanks 2dropships 4jeeps on a medium map. don't let the vehicles overrun and bully everyone. I'm very tempted to go back to COD without vehicles Lets lower those numbers shall we. I'd like to see a maximum of the following per battle: 1 Tank 6 LAV (the are basically only for transport at this point which is perfect and 6 would let the whole team be mobile) 2 DS only one of which may be an ADS There is really never a need for more than one tank as having even two allows them to ignore the foot soldiers they are supposed to be supporting. Standard DS are basically just busses so they are not such a concern on the battle field but the air being clogged with ADS (which I have seen in several battles) is a problem. LAV are pretty perfect where they are right now and should be allowed in numbers sufficient to move the entire team about quickly if everyone feels the need to stay on the ground. Fun > Realism
Cosgar ParagonX 9044	Posted - 2013.12.31 19:23:00 - [3] - Quote Swarm launcher range is a temporary solution since rendering distance is an issue. Pilots need to at least be able to see where the damn things are coming from. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 261	Posted - 2013.12.31 20:57:00 - [4] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Lets lower those numbers shall we. I'd like to see a maximum of the following per battle: 1 Tank 6 LAV (the are basically only for transport at this point which is perfect and 6 would let the whole team be mobile) 2 DS only one of which may be an ADS There is really never a need for more than one tank as having even two allows them to ignore the foot soldiers they are supposed to be supporting. Standard DS are basically just busses so they are not such a concern on the battle field but the air being clogged with ADS (which I have seen in several battles) is a problem. LAV are pretty perfect where they are right now and should be allowed in numbers sufficient to move the entire team about quickly if everyone feels the need to stay on the ground. So now you would like to go back to how it was in 1.7 and before with more LAV's then tanks ??? Tanks can carry three team members just like a LAV . Now it will be , who call's their vehicle in first who has the priority . This shows instability and bias as well as limitations , which should be frowned upon . I have played matches where there were 6 tanks on the field , fielded by the enemy and that to me is just something that should be handled by the team that faces that circumstance . Someone mentioned before that those who choose to stay with their choice of AR instead of changing to equipment that would destroy or deter the opponents tanks , should have to deal with getting slaughtered . It's not the fact that A.V. is underpowered but it is underutilized as an option . Instead of whining about how mismatched things are ... try doing something about it instead of complaining and begin to field FG's and SLers . That might actually make a difference and after you have quelled the tank menace then you can change back to your If it's one tank then it should be one of every other vehicle as well . None should be looked upon as being more of an asset or important than any other if this is a fair game and you would like to measure out justice . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 332	Posted - 2014.01.01 02:29:00 - [5] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: If it's one tank then it should be one of every other vehicle as well . None should be looked upon as being more of an asset or important than any other if this is a fair game and you would like to measure out justice . Um, no. Which vehicle is the most durable? How about the most deadly? Least likely to flip over? Only needs one person to drive and shoot effectively? The only thing LAVs have over tanks is they're smaller targets that can get closer to objectives on some maps (since tanks are now almost as fast, if not FASTER than LAVs in some cases); and the only thing dropships have is getting on top of and over things since they can FLY. You put 2 or even 3 LAVs or dropships up against a single tank, and the tank is going to win 9/10 times, unless the pilot is a complete idiot, or it's a militia tank going up against assault dropships, and even then, it would be close.
501st Headstrong Dead Man's Game 107	Posted - 2014.01.01 02:51:00 - [6] - Quote I still don't see why you can't get a squad of tanks and drop ships along with FGs and SLers and kill these tanks yourself. if you aren't willing to pay to right these guys off, then they are allowed to win Dust is a Pay to Win Game. Only people don't want to pay ISK. Tanks ain't OP, just buy more tanks Peace, and stop QQing
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 267	Posted - 2014.01.01 05:14:00 - [7] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: If it's one tank then it should be one of every other vehicle as well . None should be looked upon as being more of an asset or important than any other if this is a fair game and you would like to measure out justice . Um, no. Which vehicle is the most durable? How about the most deadly? Least likely to flip over? Only needs one person to drive and shoot effectively? The only thing LAVs have over tanks is they're smaller targets that can get closer to objectives on some maps (since tanks are now almost as fast, if not FASTER than LAVs in some cases); and the only thing dropships have is getting on top of and over things since they can FLY. You put 2 or even 3 LAVs or dropships up against a single tank, and the tank is going to win 9/10 times, unless the pilot is a complete idiot, or it's a militia tank going up against assault dropships, and even then, it would be close. Did you NOT get what I was getting at ???? I was speaking on behalf of tank users like I always do . It seems that you didn't understand what I said . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Meee One Clones Of The Damned Zero-Day 69	Posted - 2014.01.01 07:30:00 - [8] - Quote Obviously anyone who disagrees with this suggestion,and counters with "fight their spam by spamming yourself"-or- "use A.V. because obviously the A.V.nerf/vehicle buff had 0 effect on it" Is a vehicle spammer. Or has never tried to kill a "fragile" dropship,or ANY tank with the A.V. they suggest. If they say they have and it's "effective" they are obviously lying.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 333	Posted - 2014.01.01 07:57:00 - [9] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: If it's one tank then it should be one of every other vehicle as well . None should be looked upon as being more of an asset or important than any other if this is a fair game and you would like to measure out justice . Um, no. Which vehicle is the most durable? How about the most deadly? Least likely to flip over? Only needs one person to drive and shoot effectively? The only thing LAVs have over tanks is they're smaller targets that can get closer to objectives on some maps (since tanks are now almost as fast, if not FASTER than LAVs in some cases); and the only thing dropships have is getting on top of and over things since they can FLY. You put 2 or even 3 LAVs or dropships up against a single tank, and the tank is going to win 9/10 times, unless the pilot is a complete idiot, or it's a militia tank going up against assault dropships, and even then, it would be close. Did you NOT get what I was getting at ???? I was speaking on behalf of tank users like I always do . It seems that you didn't understand what I said . No, you were saying all vehicles should be considered equal, if and when it comes to vehicle limits. And I said, no, that's stupid, because tanks ARE a much more exploitable asset in battle, and therefor can NOT be counted as equal to LAVs or dropships.
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2014.01.01 08:19:00 - [10] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: I still don't see why you can't get a squad of tanks and drop ships along with FGs and SLers and kill these tanks yourself. if you aren't willing to pay to right these guys off, then they are allowed to win Dude your post sounds so stupid. Who has a squad of tanks and drop ships in their neocom? Say something that makes sense please or dont say anything at all. You are talking like you can buy a squad like this is a strategy roleplaying game where you buy armies and stuff Proud Christian Jesus Loves You

501st Headstrong Dead Man's Game 108	Posted - 2014.01.01 15:52:00 - [11] - Quote Well how the hell do you think they have so many thanks huh? They either put in the effort or it sucks to be you. Either way, get over it. And my idea may be stupid, but I'm trying to help you. I'm not the one crying here, you people are. So dont get pissed if you cant understand what Im trying to say...Sorry, I really want to help. If you have a better idea, I'm willing to talk it out... Dust is a Pay to Win Game. Only people don't want to pay ISK. Tanks ain't OP, just buy more tanks Peace, and stop QQing
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 269	Posted - 2014.01.01 21:37:00 - [12] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: If it's one tank then it should be one of every other vehicle as well . None should be looked upon as being more of an asset or important than any other if this is a fair game and you would like to measure out justice . Um, no. Which vehicle is the most durable? How about the most deadly? Least likely to flip over? Only needs one person to drive and shoot effectively? The only thing LAVs have over tanks is they're smaller targets that can get closer to objectives on some maps (since tanks are now almost as fast, if not FASTER than LAVs in some cases); and the only thing dropships have is getting on top of and over things since they can FLY. You put 2 or even 3 LAVs or dropships up against a single tank, and the tank is going to win 9/10 times, unless the pilot is a complete idiot, or it's a militia tank going up against assault dropships, and even then, it would be close. Did you NOT get what I was getting at ???? I was speaking on behalf of tank users like I always do . It seems that you didn't understand what I said . No, you were saying all vehicles should be considered equal, if and when it comes to vehicle limits. And I said, no, that's stupid, because tanks ARE a much more exploitable asset in battle, and therefor can NOT be counted as equal to LAVs or dropships. So YOU would like to go back in time as well ??? All I'm saying is when you read someone's words , like yours and the OP's for instance , you can tell that there is preferential treatment towards LAV's and Dropships . Just like it's been for a while now and now with this patch drop things have changed and like always , most are afraid of change . I say again , no vehicle is no more important than any other . If you place restrictions on one than there should be restrictions on all . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 334	Posted - 2014.01.02 00:44:00 - [13] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: So YOU would like to go back in time as well ??? All I'm saying is when you read someone's words , like yours and the OP's for instance , you can tell that there is preferential treatment towards LAV's and Dropships . Just like it's been for a while now and now with this patch drop things have changed and like always , most are afraid of change . I say again , no vehicle is no more important than any other . If you place restrictions on one than there should be restrictions on all . Back in time? What are you talking about? People aren't "afraid" of this change. They're pissed off because it's unbalanced. YOU are afraid of it being changed again, so that it IS balanced, because it means you won't get to freely zip around the battlefield in your invincible murder fortress anymore. You can say no vehicle is more important than any other, but that doesn't change the fact that tanks are more deadly, durable, and exploited than any other vehicle. Yes, there should be restrictions on ALL vehicles. Four LAVs, three dropships, two tanks.


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