Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2013.12.30 07:22:00 -
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BPOs supposedly are not functioning as they were intended to or that mess, so they are no longer sold (outside of the 'Exile' Assault Rifle, which is in a pack still sold). The BPOs that could be bought with AURUM consisted of two types: Militia and standard. Militia gear is standard gear that costs less ISK, but costs more PG and CPU to equip. On top of this, militia gear is not affected by skills. Buying a militia BPO is equal to saying "I'm too lazy to keep buying militia crap." Militia gear is so cheap, a BPO of them is, well, kind of silly.
What about standard though? The 'Valor' Scout one is an example and one in particular that I use. It is of, well, a Gallentean standard scout suit. Those that run the scout suit can vouch with me when I say that the scout's lifespan is rather... short on the average. When I wear the suit, I expect to live long enough to get to a point, hack, and throw my two uplinks I carry on it. That's it. When I die or get to a supply depot after throwing my uplinks, I change out to a different fitting. If you ever see me in a 'Valor' or 'Dren' scout suit after points have been taking, I'm being an asshat and planning to pillage the enemy redlines. (Seriously. I love skirmishing the redlines because people think they are safe there.) My 'Valor' is affected by skills. It is only a standard though and the price per standard scout suit is pocket change at best.
People complain about BPOs "ruining the economy"... that doesn't exist yet. Standard gear is extremely cheap. Militia is cheaper. Running a full fitting of standard will save you, what, a max of 15k compared to the ISK variant? Let's be generous and say 15k. If you make 200k per game, that means you will have to die 15 times in one game to be at a loss of 25k ISK. If you die fifteen times in one game, you're probably in need of an update of tactics and it is a good idea that you practice more. If you are a strict scout, I do expect your life to be rather short. I will not defend you, however, as the dedicated scouts I've seen will not die enough to lose money. (Sly little *****.) A full militia BPO fitting isn't even 2k worth of ISK. You'd need to die 100 times in a full militia setup in a single game to be at some loss. If you die 100 times in one game... please, just do something else. I mention this section because I'm going to stab every single rebuttal that has been brought against BPOs (that I can remember) in this post. I apologize for the length of this section in particular. Planetary Conquest, should you maintain control of several districts, allow you to throw away full prototype gear as if it was militia. People speak of "ruining the economy" but turn white when the Farmville portion of Dust 514 is mentioned. My 15k per death is nothing compared to the 100-200k per death that some are throwing. You want to help the economy? Stomp out Farmville's broken mechanic.
I've gone on and on about militia and standard BPOs for a while now, and that is soon to end. I have just one more thing to touch up about with these two. The 'Dren' and 'Covenant' (just for example) BPOs cannot be removed by CCP, because they were bought through the PSN store with money. They were part of packs that could only be bought with money. 'Valor', 'Dragonfly' (another one of my used BPOs), and every militia BPO... can be removed, altered, and repurposed however CCP sees fit because it was bought with AURUM, not money. You use money to get AURUM, yes, but by buying AURUM, that which you buy with AURUM is subjected to the terms that you agreed to.
There is a third set of BPOs. People laugh and mock them, but they are truly a compromise.
'Recruit'.
Yes, I mentioned it. 'Recruit'. That crappy stuff you get when you are recruited by someone. You know the 'Recruit' Submachine Gun? It has less damage than the standard Submachine Gun, you know. It's a militia BPO that does not follow the militia rule. This is the compromise, if you haven't realized it yet. "Balanced" BPOs. The 'Recruit' gear is infinite, but it is weaker. Why not bring back BPOs like this? Infinite, but weaker than militia? Slower ROF, less damage, less clip- these can all be met on agreeing terms, can't you see? We can have BPOs, it can work. Infinite use, but weaker than militia.
Could you compromise with me on this? Could we see eye to eye? Could you be okay with weaker than militia gear being BPO? Can we really agree?
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2013.12.30 10:36:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:
yeah, except some of us DID pay real money for Dragonfly Suits. I'm not sure if you remember, but both Dragonfly suits and Toxin weapons were part of the mercenary packs that were sold on PSN, Amazon, and Gamestop, all places where real currency (not Aurum) were used in the transaction.
That is true. If I remember correctly, those two were able to be gotten from the first pack that retired, the Mercenary Pack? Those two are potentially in a state of limbo if CCP is approaching this like I think they are,
Edit: I remember now. That's the Assault 'Dragonfly' that you're thinking of. Toxin is still up for debate as to whether or not it is able to be touched, since there were two ways to get it.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:06:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:T-T I really hope they leave the BPO's alone. I've spent a little over 50 dollars on Dust and it has all been for BPO's. I have yet to see something as compelling to spend real money on, and removal of the BPO's I have would definitely be a deal breaker for me and enough to call it quits on this game.
They cannot remove anything that was bought from the PSN store, as I said. Anything bought with AURUM means you are subject to the terms and agreements that you already agreed to.
Quote:What makes CCP's ambiguous approach to BPO's more unsettling was the way they discontinued them. Prior to the items being taken off the market CCP encouraged mass purchases.
They didn't say "buy as many as you can!" Look at how they worded it. The way they worded it is not some dark mystical message hidden. They are literally telling you that they are removing the ways to get the BPOs outside of the packs and it's your last chance to get them.
Quote:They also said BPO's wouldn't be removed here.
They aren't removing the BPOs of those packs. The BPOs that were completely removed were militia vehicle modules that only a few people used, and even then that was for a short time. They removed them because, well, the module does not exist anymore. That's right. The entirety of those modules does not exist after the overhaul of vehicles happened. I'm trying to get that through people's heads, but they refuse to listen.
Quote:If they hated them so much, why encourage us to buy them? This double-faced behavior leaves me worried and I don't feel like I have enough faith in CCP to keep them at their word. Any day now, I expect (especially when the player market is ready to come out) to read an announcement where they will change their stance on existing BPO's. 
They did not encourage to buy them when the packs were being removed, at least not in an abundance (which is what people did and they turned to place blame on CCP because of their own mistakes). "Last chance." As I mentioned earlier, they cannot touch any BPO obtained from a pack, as those packs were gotten from the PSN store, not AURUM.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.
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