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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:11:00 -
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RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:14:00 -
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they OHKO tanks even with hardeners on if you know how to set the patterns right :P
also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned?
why exactly havnt people started doing that again?
1 guy with AV nades pisses it off 2 guy with AV nades makes it think twice 3 guys with AV nades makes it go away 4+ guys with AV nades doesnt give the tank time to regret coming that close |
Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:15:00 -
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OP tactics for OP HAVs, seems legit.
MCC Lounge Lizard
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:21:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned?
Nothing reliably stopped the Murder Taxi 2.0 Logi LAVs, that was the biggest complaint. Maybe you're referencing the regular LAVs?
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:26:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned? Nothing reliably stopped the Murder Taxi 2.0 Logi LAVs, that was the biggest complaint. Maybe you're referencing the regular LAVs?
proxes and remote explosives did |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:27:00 -
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The difference is that a single AV grenade handler, if has good dodging skills and can trap the Logi LAV so that it won't run, could destroy an LLAV with just himself.
Can't do that against tanks.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Rusty Shallows
609
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Posted - 2013.12.29 22:43:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned? Nothing reliably stopped the Murder Taxi 2.0 Logi LAVs, that was the biggest complaint. Maybe you're referencing the regular LAVs? proxes and remote explosives did Logi LAVs regularly out raced the blasts of proximity mines. Some people claimed to have had success doing baiting traps with REs. I personally don't count that as a standard tactic, more of a challenging mini game.
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
70
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:11:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks.
Tankers QQ about AV being too powerful, it got nerfed. AV QQ about tanks, found another way to deal with them. Since swarms and av nades cannot do it by themselves and the proxys were also nerfed where else would they turn too?
All I got from this was "Nerf the AV weapons even more, give tankers the easy button!"
NO, and if you had your tank blown up from RE's then you most likely had it coming to you.
tl:dr? AV need more of a slight buff then another nerf. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
651
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:19:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned? Nothing reliably stopped the Murder Taxi 2.0 Logi LAVs, that was the biggest complaint. Maybe you're referencing the regular LAVs? proxes and remote explosives did Logi LAVs regularly out raced the blasts of proximity mines. Some people claimed to have had success doing baiting traps with REs. I personally don't count that as a standard tactic, more of a challenging mini game.
thats what the remotes were for :P you had to detonate it manually, doing so would slow down the car enough that the proxes worked properly :P |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
651
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:21:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks. Tankers QQ about AV being too powerful, it got nerfed. AV QQ about tanks, found another way to deal with them. Since swarms and av nades cannot do it by themselves and the proxys were also nerfed where else would they turn too? All I got from this was "Nerf the AV weapons even more, give tankers the easy button!" NO, and if you had your tank blown up from RE's then you most likely had it coming to you. tl:dr? AV need more of a slight buff then another nerf.
tankers QQd about AV being invisable :P theres a difference |
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:23:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned? Nothing reliably stopped the Murder Taxi 2.0 Logi LAVs, that was the biggest complaint. Maybe you're referencing the regular LAVs? proxes and remote explosives did Logi LAVs regularly out raced the blasts of proximity mines. Some people claimed to have had success doing baiting traps with REs. I personally don't count that as a standard tactic, more of a challenging mini game. thats what the remotes were for :P you had to detonate it manually, doing so would slow down the car enough that the proxes worked properly :P Sorry about that, my bad. Totally misunderstood you meant in conjunction, smart. Thanks for the info. +1 inbound.
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Eurydice Itzhak
State Patriots Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:23:00 -
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Cities are even more deadly than normal lately.
Beware funnels. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:28:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks. We've adapted...
CEO
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
415
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:30:00 -
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As someone who runs tanks part time, I think proxies need a big buff, along with RE, to deal with tanks. A single swarm shouldn't solo a tank in one magazine, but a tank shrugging off anti-vehicle mines? Thats not fair.
Make breach RE, 3500 damage, 0.5m radius.
Buff proxies to 2500 damage. Reduce activation timer. |
Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:31:00 -
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You mean! You mean?! I actually have to plan how I'm going to take out HAVs?!
You ask too much of me, man!
DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:39:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Cities are even more deadly than normal lately.
Beware funnels.
Yep, I haven't been in one in weeks.
PRO tanker and proud.
Lentarr Legionary.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.30 00:00:00 -
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So mines work.
o7 Tanks.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Zaria for Miss Universe 2014
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2765
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:26:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote: tankers QQd about AV being invisable :P theres a difference
Nope.
Of all of the tanker QQ threads, the rendering issue was brought up the least.
And we weren't completely invisible. My tanking adventures have taught me that.
Any more BS you want to get off your chest?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2765
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:28:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:You mean! You mean?! I actually have to plan how I'm going to take out HAVs?!
You ask too much of me, man! All while HAVs require no planning beyond rotating the joysticks and holding R1.
Your asking far to little.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:31:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks.
I'm fairly okay with this as it requires more strategy than 'throw grenades' or 'centre vehicle in screen for a few seconds' or 'put 5 forge gunners on roofs at the start of a match' |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2765
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:34:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks. You can break the Sound Barrier to escape all forms of conventional AV, as well as being able to cycle 2-3 hardners to negate all forms of conventional AV.
Proximity Explosives have a very large beeping sound indicating that your about to hit one. You can't activate the trap if you aren't idiotic enough to continue moving after hearing the beeping sounds.
However, if the trap was activated by hand, then the man who killed you deserves a cookie, for he has clearly won DUST. Which is a feat that one does not simply do.
If your movements were predictable enough to fall for a trap in a static position, you need to get better.
HTFU and Get Good.
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:35:00 -
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Now thats fine and Im happy it works. But something for you to consider, why do you think the mobile version (LAV bomb) is more popular?
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.12.30 19:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:RE's and Proxy's are the new super OP AV weapon. I'm noticing people using forges and swarms to drive tanks into these death traps. They're impossible to spot if you're on the run and they OHK every tank BC you can't see them coming and pop a hardener. Maybe people need to rethink AV BC THOSE THINGS OHK EVERYTHING!!!!
It ain't as easy as a 2000 DMG 400m lock on weapon that rounds corners and does 180-¦ turns, but it does OHK tanks. You can break the Sound Barrier to escape all forms of conventional AV, as well as being able to cycle 2-3 hardners to negate all forms of conventional AV. Proximity Explosives have a very large beeping sound indicating that your about to hit one. You can't activate the trap if you aren't idiotic enough to continue moving after hearing the beeping sounds. However, if the trap was activated by hand, then the man who killed you deserves a cookie, for he has clearly won DUST. Which is a feat that one does not simply do. If your movements were predictable enough to fall for a trap in a static position, you need to get better. HTFU and Get Good.
Careful Atiim. You went 2/9 in a pub. I got pics. Why don't YOU get good.
Also, being "predictable" in a tank is hard to avoid. There are only so many routes to take. Dust Fiend seems pretty good at killing good tankers like Jason and myself, so you should probably ask him how he does is instead of whining like a 12-year old, asking for a nerf to something you're not smart enough to counter when people are already doing it. You didn't even TRY to kill a tank when you were against my team so you have no reason to say we're OP when you obviously don't have any skills in AV. If you did, you would've brought it out. If you don't, then you didn't care enough about getting roflstomped by our tanks to do anything about it.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.30 19:49:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote: Careful Atiim. You went 2/9 in a pub. I got pics. Why don't YOU get good.
Also, being "predictable" in a tank is hard to avoid. There are only so many routes to take. Dust Fiend seems pretty good at killing good tankers like Jason and myself, so you should probably ask him how he does is instead of whining like a 12-year old, asking for a nerf to something you're not smart enough to counter when people are already doing it. You didn't even TRY to kill a tank when you were against my team so you have no reason to say we're OP when you obviously don't have any skills in AV. If you did, you would've brought it out. If you don't, then you didn't care enough about getting roflstomped by our tanks to do anything about it.
*Claps Slowly*
Chasing around tanks with a Plasma Cannon for an entire match got me a score of 2/9. Are you surprised? Do you want a cookie?
Not even close. I spent literally the entire match trying to position myself (and REs) to get the jump on a tank. Why the hell do you think I'd be carrying a Plasma Cannon?
I almost killed a total of 3 tanks that match. You know what happened to them? They broke the sound barrier.
Keep making baseless assumptions though. I might even bake you a cookie.
ALSO: When you get a beeping sound even louder that the sound of a Large Blaster Turret that warns you about Proxies nearby, it is very easy to be unpredictable. Which brings me back to my original point.
HTFU and Get Better.
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xSynnx x
Requiem of Shadows DEADSPACE SOCIETY
5
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Posted - 2013.12.30 20:17:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:they OHKO tanks even with hardeners on if you know how to set the patterns right :P
also remember murder taxis and how everyone equiped AV nades on every suit they owned?
why exactly havnt people started doing that again?
1 guy with AV nades pisses it off 2 guy with AV nades makes it think twice 3 guys with AV nades makes it go away 4+ guys with AV nades doesnt give the tank time to regret coming that close
Maybe its because it takes 6 STD AV nades to kill an LAV now. and they dont have hardners on. i literally dropped a nanohive and threw nades at an unoccupied LAV till it blew up... 6 STD AV nades... ridiculous.
Also i believe PROTO AV nades are less powerful then STD AV nades used to be. Also back then, everyone was using those hacked ex-0 av nades that didnt require any skills.
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