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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.29 01:11:00 -
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Yeah, how dare people try to use a weapon intended to be used from long range, from long range. from an area that they're relatively safe in... Tactics OP much?
If you have cover, you're going to use it. the other guy doesn't have it so it's not fair. Boo mother****ing hoo. War is unfair. The smart guy wins the fight. Sorry that you're too stupid to figure out to keep your head down if there are snipers or tanks about. Maybe you'll learn something instead of *****ing on the forums.
All battles should occur within knife range(so no weapon is at a disadvantage) in a skill vacuum(SP might provide an unfair advantage to one side) and no cover for either party, in a standard(modules might be unfairly used) minmatar medium suit(average tank on both sides, to minimize the unfair advantage of weapon damage types) and should have players removed from the equation as well(since actual player skill would also provide an unfair advantage) If you want fair play.
I'll state it again: War is unfair. You want "fair"(disadvantaged against your own style. You want long range players to run into the fight swinging their weapon like a club for some reason.) play? Go make your own game.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:41:00 -
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Maybe it should just delete your account if you stay in the redline for more than 30 seconds, since you aren't playing in a way that has proper "risk and reward" according to the ARtards. My tank costs 5x your suit. I will protect it in the most efficient manner possible. My sniper has an effective range of 600 meters I will use it to find a good cover or vantage point, well outside your effective fire area and then put two in your head or three in your chest.
when you're getting the short end of the stick, you **** and moan like a whiny little girl. When I get it? I get angry, and crafty.
Oh, that sniper got me? well then, he shot from direction D at elevation E, so there are good blinds at points x,y, and z. I know that he can see x and y, so Z is out of the picture for not having a shot. of those two, y has the technically better cover, but too many teammates are nearby, so I risk being spotted prematurely. So, point x provides the best chance at killing him before being spotted.
So how's your planning? I'm guessing it goes someodd like this: SHOOT AT WITH AR! IT DED? PAT SELF ON BACK! IT KILL ME!? OP NERFNERFNERF! REMOVE IT FROM GAME! IT'S NAWT FAIR!!!!!!1!!
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.29 07:01:00 -
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rretri bution wrote:
This is not war, this is a videogame, in a real war the stakes are much higher and it is of course not about being fair. Even in real war their are rules, there are things that if done are considered war crimes, consider the geneva convention for example.
This is a videogame, so players expect sportsmanship, they expect a balanced and level playing field, with these qualities a game is more fun, yes "fun" we play videogames for fun, not for score, this philosphy is alien to you tryhards who will do anything to win, that is why you see no problem with cheap tactics like uplink spam to lag the map and redline sniping.
Sportsmanship? You mean that thing where you have to pretend to be nice to people who at best I don't care about? Yeah, Never understood that. If you're being a whiny little girl, the nicest I'll do is not take time out of my incredibly empty schedule to point it out.
And I personally hate equipspam and don't do it. I even make it a point to have fluxes on every single fit to counter it.
That's the problem with people like you. anytime someone else has the advantage, they're "unsportsmanlike" or cheating, or cheap. Your little narcissistic mind can't possibly comprehend that you have been outsmarted, outgunned, and killed for fighting someone better equipped for the engagement.
Does the fish begrudge the heron? Then why do you begrudge the sniper? To you, he's some evil monster who hates you personally! To him? You're just a notch on his rifle at best, he won't even remember your name by the end of the match. I never do, unless I get someone "forum famous" and even then it's more of a "Mental note, I killed such and such. Maybe badger them about it at some point in the- Ooooh fancy suit, kill it, kill it."
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.29 07:36:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Maybe it should just delete your account if you stay in the redline for more than 30 seconds, since you aren't playing in a way that has proper "risk and reward" according to the ARtards. My tank costs 5x your suit. I will protect it in the most efficient manner possible. My sniper has an effective range of 600 meters I will use it to find a good cover or vantage point, well outside your effective fire area and then put two in your head or three in your chest. That pretty much describes the problem. If you can't afford to lose something, don't use it. (Isn't that a saying in Eve?) If you lose it, it's not my problem, or anyone else's. It's your own fault. You shouldn't get a little hideout where you're safe from everything.
I can afford to lose over a hundred and keep going, and I'm poor right now. It's still an investment though, and I intend to get the maximum amount of isk/lost tanks ratio I can. Sorry that you didn't bring something to counter it, like another tank, a dedicated AV guy, or a jihadjeep. Just because you can't kill it with your AR it doesn't mean it should be removed from the game.
We both know that the instant they implement the bubble shields you little ARtards will be hiding in them and still *****ing about the redline, even though you now have the same(actually better, since it stops bullets) protection, but you still can't actually be assed to either kill us yourself, or get someone else to do it.
So again, sorry that you can't figure out that things in the redline can be killed/effectively shut down if you bring the right counter. Don't worry, the flood of tears from you whiners will soon punt the game back to AR514 and yes, I mean back because it will be a massive backwards step for this game.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.30 03:23:00 -
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Naviticus wrote:
your dumb, i snipe but i refuse to snipe out of the redline due to respect for myself/class. Its like sleeping with a fat chick, everyone can do it but not every one does for respect for themselves. I'm the sniper shooting the sniper in the face in the redline, I'm the tank thats keeping your turtle tank at bay that hides behind a hill you cant shoot him at i.e. manus peak every time he gets hit, I was the sniper on top of the highest vantage point in the game(out of the redline) keeping tools like you in your place. Oh but wait.... lets make it so people cant get on the towers because people cried about snipers up there but feed into you redline tools.
Challenge accepted get at me redline boy. Sorry I misspoke "get at me tactical advantage points boy" keep tellin yourself this.
1. You're* Seriously, did they stop teaching english in schools since I went there? If you're going to call someone dumb, at least do it right, or it makes you looks like a moron.
2. Okay. I'll go to any of my other blinds(notably, 90% or so are out of the redline.) then kill you, roll back to the redline, recall and then bring out my fatsuit with an HMG and an lav to ride back to the fight. Or, run over to them, kill you, kill a couple friends of yours until I'm out of ammo(no nanohives, those bubbles are a dead giveaway) go to the nearest friendly supply depot, and switch to a logi or something useful.
When I fight from range, I prefer the maximum. Screw "respect" It's plain wrong to attack from a point of weakness. Can the enemy shoot back and hit you reliably? then that's a bad position, especially when the enemy is already in position. Do you have cover and at least 3 exit plans? good position. Sorry that you seem to prefer fighting a sniper from an open field instead of cover. Call me crazy, but I like it being harder to kill me rather than easier. Strange I know, but it really helps me keep my suits and tanks in working order.
Sniping is not my main job. It's barely even a side hobby for me, I will however play it to the best of my abilities. These abilities are using cover, stealth, and range to eliminate enemies or weaken them before the rest of the infantry arrives.
Do you guys whine this much when you try to fight an HMG in a short hallway and he wins? That's the situation that weapon was made for. killing someone from really, really far away is what the sniper rifle and railgun were made for. So why do the AR's suddenly care about e-bushido when they're getting a hole punched through their skull at 300 meters?
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:57:00 -
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And? You need better positioning or teamwork. I know it's foreign to you, but this is a team based game. kind of hard to run from two militia railgun tanks firing even close to the same time. Or just use a prototype railgun and the poor bastard will be reduced to wreckage before he knows what hit him.
If they're out of your render, then you are out of theirs. If you're like me(you're not.) then you're close enough to their redline that them not rendering means they are so deep that they can't render anyone on your team.
And again: If you have the advantage(redline positioning and enemies stupid enough to funnel or try to rush you straight across an open field) Press it. Don't let up because the enemy is weak. They're weak, they deserve to be crushed. They got redlined? "Awwww, shucks guys, let's just let them take three or four points out of pity and e-bushido" seems to be your strategy. Mine is keep them there. Run in and shank someone just for giggles on a militia scout fit because they're so bad, I can do so with impunity. We've won when all they can do is snipe. heads down, have a smoke maybe even tell some jokes or see how long one of them takes to switch to a battle fit and get killed by the squad waiting just outside the redline.
Sorry that you are totally devoid of tactics beyond rushing them like a neanderthal. Maybe if you put any thought towards teamwork, positioning, or patience you'd be killing them instead of the other way around.
And I did not get off topic at all. HMGs are made for tight spaces so finding one in a hallway is as bad as fighting a sniper from an open field at 300 meters. Fighting in a situation you can't win is stupid, so stop doing that and make it a situation you can win. It's just like punching a brick wall with steel spikes coming out of it. You're not going to win that way, so don't do it. Go grab a sledgehammer and bust the thing down.
You need the right tool for the job. You're a tool alright, but not the right one.
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