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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:20:00 -
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I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
218
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:24:00 -
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*head desk* Atiim that was uncalled for. (I know what your doing)
When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
529
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:28:00 -
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Yep saw what you did there. |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2514
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:28:00 -
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Lol. I see what you did there. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2705
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:29:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:*head desk* Atiim that was uncalled for. (I know what your doing)
Somebody needed to do it.
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Subject 36
Pradox XVI
47
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:36:00 -
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Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks.
Amarr Templars
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:37:00 -
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Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks.
So you don't see what I did there huh?
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Subject 36
Pradox XVI
47
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh?
I suppose not friend. Blonde moments. Everyone has em'.
Amarr Templars
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
501
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:42:00 -
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Brava
(GöÉGöî ).....[ a¦Å^Gûá ].....{ a¦Å\°/a¦Å }.....( : : )
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TunRa
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
281
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:46:00 -
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Didn't get it at first but then read the first comment. Clever.
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5138
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:54:00 -
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I had to giggle at this.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5138
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:55:00 -
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Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks.
That's because CCP already addressed this.
At this point no amount of forum QQ will do anything.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2713
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:05:00 -
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Subject 36 wrote:Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh? I suppose not friend. Blonde moments. Everyone has em'.
It's a parody of the logic tankers use to justify the current sate of Vehicles and AV weaponry.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3343
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh? I suppose not friend. Blonde moments. Everyone has em'. It's a parody of the logic tankers use to justify the current sate of Vehicles and AV weaponry.
Still not very funny IMO, but whatever.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2715
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:09:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh? I suppose not friend. Blonde moments. Everyone has em'. It's a parody of the logic tankers use to justify the current sate of Vehicles and AV weaponry. Still not very funny IMO, but whatever.
It's not supposed to be funny.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3551
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:11:00 -
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Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks.
DUde....
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Bunny Demon
Scions of Athra
51
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:13:00 -
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Yes.....that is all
(Also I agree with the tankers to some degree that it should take more than one AVer to destroy a tank/dropship and this is from an AVer/militia tanker  )
Amarr logi ftw :D
(Also...ScR is pretty good)
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
627
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:14:00 -
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you realise the only people that sprout that nonsence about tanks... are AVers accusing tankers of using that logic :P
stop beating a dead horse and man up to kill the things. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2715
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:17:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:you realise the only people that sprout that nonsence about tanks... are AVers accusing tankers of using that logic :P
stop beating a dead horse and man up to kill the things.
Yet many tankers have said something similar to this in multipule threads, simply replace "logi" with "HAV" and you will basically get another tanker's thread.
2nd part has nothing to do with the OP but I'll bite anyway.
Why not people stop beating a dead horse and just man up to kill the logis? Your right dude. They just don't understand.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5297
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
I never found logi OP they still need their bonuses changed to better reflect the Logistics role.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
894
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:23:00 -
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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHADDUP!
I see what you did there.jpg, which is why i'm giving you a like, but I don't need this resurfacing.
Lore-wise: Calamari are my preferred. Amarricans are my despised.
Importantly: Frogs n' Brutes have all my stuff...
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1059
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:24:00 -
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I have to admit you had me there for a second even though it sounded vaguely familiar.
Tanker/Assault
Can I have my ADV and PRO tanks now (Honeyed Lamb enroute).
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1183
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:30:00 -
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Ah Atiim one day you're going to regret being such a loud mouthed ******. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
627
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:you realise the only people that sprout that nonsence about tanks... are AVers accusing tankers of using that logic :P
stop beating a dead horse and man up to kill the things. Yet many tankers have said something similar to this in multipule threads, simply replace "logi" with "HAV" and you will basically get another tanker's thread. 2nd part has nothing to do with the OP but I'll bite anyway. Why not people stop beating a dead horse and just man up to kill the logis? Your right dude. They just don't understand.
i DO man up and kill the logis, i never had a problem with them to begin with.... |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:40:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
i DO man up and kill the logis, i never had a problem with them to begin with....
Exactly Ghosts. The Logistics are working as intended.
No problems here.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2718
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:41:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Ah Atiim one day you're going to regret being such a loud mouthed ******.
What are you gonna do? Hunt me down in matches?
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
628
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
i DO man up and kill the logis, i never had a problem with them to begin with....
Exactly Ghosts. The Logistics are working as intended. No problems here.
im findng it hard to determin exactly what your trying to say
its as if you are the type that talks alot because they like the sound of their own voice...
becuase that statement seemed alot like it said "tanks are working as intended" |
The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
185
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:10:00 -
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1000 EHP and 3 damage mods and triage hives plus an active scanner
You're right OP that's totally balanced. |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
218
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Posted - 2013.12.29 01:18:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:1000 EHP and 3 damage mods and triage hives plus an active scanner
You're right OP that's totally balanced.
I prefer 900 EPH two damage mods an injector, Nanohive(R), and a core repair tool but to each his own I suppose.
When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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Void Echo
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
2296
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Posted - 2013.12.29 01:58:00 -
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I think anyone with a middle school brain and smarter can see what youv done here.
Youtube
Closed Beta Player
I trust nobody but myself.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2013.12.29 02:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
507
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Posted - 2013.12.29 02:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
Great troll man! Using (SOME) of the tankers logic here...... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2013.12.29 02:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh? I suppose not friend. Blonde moments. Everyone has em'. It's a parody of the logic tankers use to justify the current sate of Vehicles and AV weaponry.
infantry vs vehicle combat is different, bring infantry to kill infantry, bring vehicle to kill vehicle
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2735
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:40:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
i DO man up and kill the logis, i never had a problem with them to begin with....
Exactly Ghosts. The Logistics are working as intended. No problems here. im findng it hard to determin exactly what your trying to say its as if you are the type that talks alot because they like the sound of their own voice... becuase that statement seemed alot like it said "tanks are working as intended"
Far from.
I actually hate the sound of my voice, which is why I usually keep my mic muted. But that's a different story.
What I'm trying to say is that since you "man up and kill them" that they must not broken at all, and even working as intended.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2735
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:42:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one.
I said competent Logi.
If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist.
That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2735
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:44:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:1000 EHP and 3 damage mods and triage hives plus an active scanner
You're right OP that's totally balanced.
It's sarcasm.
Replace the word "logi" with "tank" and watch your mind get blown.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2735
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
infantry vs vehicle combat is different, bring infantry to kill infantry, bring vehicle to kill vehicle
Is this a serious post? Last time I checked it was:
Bring Vehicle to kill vehicle.
Bring Vehicle to kill Infantry
Bring Infantry to hack objectives.
I would take what you just said right there seriously, but looking at the fact that vehicles can slaughter both infantry and vehicles simultaneously, I have to call BS on that.
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
871
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:49:00 -
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I gave you a like because anyone that knows that Logistics isn't OP is a good one in my book. About 5 minutes later, I had to come back to tell you that...
iseewhatyoudidthere.gif
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
cobra connection
197
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
infantry vs vehicle combat is different, bring infantry to kill infantry, bring vehicle to kill vehicle
Is this a serious post? Last time I checked it was: Bring Vehicle to kill vehicle. Bring Vehicle to kill Infantry Bring Infantry to hack objectives. I would take what you just said right there seriously, but looking at the fact that vehicles can slaughter both infantry and vehicles simultaneously, I have to call BS on that.
those are blasters not LOLmissiles which are bad bad bad bad and a railgun is alot better at everything than missiles
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2737
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:50:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
I never found logi OP they still need their bonuses changed to better reflect the Logistics role.
I actually would love a bonus to equipment.
As long as I get to keep the extra low slot for an Armor Repair Module.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
cobra connection
197
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull.
all a logi needs is weapon, modules, rep
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4290
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:*head desk* Atiim that was uncalled for. (I know what your doing) Somebody needed to do it.
Okay, I'll admit I laughed quite a bit.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
631
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:55:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull. all a logi needs is weapon, modules, rep
im a logi
a demolitions logi....
i carry scanner, hives, and explosives... lots and lots of explosives
atiim is just full of hot air and has no clue what hes talking about most of the time |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5142
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Posted - 2013.12.29 05:58:00 -
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This thread is approved by Cat Merc.
It has earned the official Cat Merc Seal of Approval(CMSoP)!
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2737
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:02:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull. all a logi needs is weapon, modules, rep
With that logic, all a tanker needs is an AUR turret, and some MLT modules and he automatically becomes a tanker.
Simply having access to something doesn't make you apart of that role.
edit: Didn't I put repair tools up there? You basically just admitted that logis need to be skilled into repair tools to call themselves logis, which is exactly what I said.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2737
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:07:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
im a logi
a demolitions logi....
i carry scanner, hives, and explosives... lots and lots of explosives
atiim is just full of hot air and has no clue what hes talking about most of the time
Man this guy full of hot air must be pretty smart considering how literally everything I've ever predicted has come true (bar the HMG fix), and apart from the jokes and trolls not a single thing I've said is false, and can easily be reproduced or proven with actual facts.
Also, your skilled into hives and scanners. Which by what I just said makes you a logi.
Please, if your going to disagree with me, at least actually state a point that disagrees with mine. Otherwise it just makes you look silly.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2740
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:This thread is approved by Cat Merc.
It has earned the official Cat Merc Seal of Approval(CMSoP)!
I shall treasure this for as long as I live.
I'd give you fish in exchange, but I only have this can of tuna.
So here, please enjoy the tuna.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
631
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
im a logi
a demolitions logi....
i carry scanner, hives, and explosives... lots and lots of explosives
atiim is just full of hot air and has no clue what hes talking about most of the time
Man this guy full of hot air must be pretty smart considering how literally everything I've ever predicted has come true (bar the HMG fix), and apart from the jokes and trolls not a single thing I've said is false, and can easily be reproduced or proven with actual facts. Also, your skilled into hives and scanners. Which by what I just said makes you a logi. Please, if your going to disagree with me, at least actually state a point that disagrees with mine. Otherwise it just makes you look silly.
its not hard to be right all the time when you only state the obvious....
you basically said any logi that has equipment is a logi.... no **** shirlock
next your going to tell me 1.8 will feature changes to various numbers!!!!! HOMG you must be some super smart profit or somethings, quick guys record this **** down, we must praise him for his awesome powers of deduction.
i believe your the guy who kept claiming i lie when i say ive killed tanks with a plasma cannon, and have zero difficulties removing tanks from my way as my demolitions logi....
your funny though, its like a forum version of the village idiot, we cant get mad at you out of sheer pity |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5143
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cat Merc wrote:This thread is approved by Cat Merc.
It has earned the official Cat Merc Seal of Approval(CMSoP)! I shall treasure this for as long as I live. I'd give you fish in exchange, but I only have this can of tuna. So here, please enjoy the tuna.
*noms*
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2740
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:18:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
its not hard to be right all the time when you only state the obvious....
you basically said any logi that has equipment is a logi.... no **** shirlock
Ex-fkin-actly
He said that a logi does not need to have equipment to be a logi. When that really just makes you a tourist.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
631
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
its not hard to be right all the time when you only state the obvious....
you basically said any logi that has equipment is a logi.... no **** shirlock
Ex-fkin-actly He said that a logi does not need to have equipment to be a logi. When that really just makes you a tourist.
technically HE is right....
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2744
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:29:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:
technically HE is right....
logi is a suit not a role.
He WOULD be right if it wasn't for the fact that I said COMPETENT Logi.
And yes, the Logistics is also a role, as it performs the job that no one suit can do themselves.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
197
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull. all a logi needs is weapon, modules, rep With that logic, all a tanker needs is an AUR turret, and some MLT modules and he automatically becomes a tanker. Simply having access to something doesn't make you apart of that role. edit: Didn't I put repair tools up there? You basically just admitted that logis need to be skilled into repair tools to call themselves logis, which is exactly what I said.
im put the repair tool for true logi's
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
631
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
technically HE is right....
logi is a suit not a role.
He WOULD be right if it wasn't for the fact that I said COMPETENT Logi. And yes, the Logistics is also a role, as it performs the job that no one suit can do themselves.
logistics is a suit sir.
not a role.
logi-bro is a role
demolitions is a role
resupply is a role
logi-assault is also unfortunatly a role
logistics is just the suit, what you put in it defines your role. it just so happens that many people refer to roles primarily by the suit, as usually in a combat situation it gives you a good idea of the general capabilities of the suit and what they may be geared towards.
next your going to tell me minimtar medium frame is a role, and sentinal is a role.... scout in itself isnt a role either, its what you do with it thats the role... for example "minja", stealth flanker, city rush, hunter, rear guard, forward scout etc etc etc.
suit /= role
there not everything you say is true happy now?
(i also have a driver class... wich has a repair tool on a vannila medium frame :P) |
Jason Pearson
3684
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Posted - 2013.12.29 06:51:00 -
[55] - Quote
Ghosts is an idiot, wow.
Also, you're not getting a +1 Atiim.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
631
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Posted - 2013.12.29 07:02:00 -
[56] - Quote
Jason Pearson wrote:Ghosts is an idiot, wow.
care to explain your reasoning? |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
3544
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Posted - 2013.12.29 07:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mind blown
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Robocop Junior
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
439
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Posted - 2013.12.29 07:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull. all a logi needs is weapon, modules, rep im a logi a demolitions logi.... i carry scanner, hives, and explosives... lots and lots of explosives atiim is just full of hot air and has no clue what hes talking about most of the time
Which is why he should be CPM! Hip hip hooray!
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
631
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Posted - 2013.12.29 07:20:00 -
[59] - Quote
Robocop Junior wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull. all a logi needs is weapon, modules, rep im a logi a demolitions logi.... i carry scanner, hives, and explosives... lots and lots of explosives atiim is just full of hot air and has no clue what hes talking about most of the time Which is why he should be CPM! Hip hip hooray!
i dont like how much sence that statement makes....
it makes me uncomfortable |
8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1273
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Posted - 2013.12.29 08:05:00 -
[60] - Quote
Being a true Logi is hard f*cking work. You need so much investment. The amount of SP and ISK it consumes is through the roof.
Then, once in battle, you're going non-stop. Reviving here, repping there, planting equipment over there... The worse your team is, the harder you have to work. All the while getting shot at. Its not a skill to select equipment and throw it on the ground. Its not a skill to stand next to a dead clone and tap circle. Its not a skill to point a RT at someone and have it automatically leash onto someone.
It is still very, very hard work. Being a Logi will make you "break a sweat" on the battlefield.
However, its the Assault Logis that abuse the suit. They carry no equipment, or just one thing like a selfish scanner but reap the extra CPU/PG and self-armor rep proficiency. Its more about the Assualt suit not being anything special. Make the assault suit the better suit to ASSAULT with, and the Logi fakers wouldn't exploit it.
Logis deserve every WP they get, and they should be topping leaderboards in breakaway fashion
Fish in a bucket!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
154
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Posted - 2013.12.29 10:19:00 -
[61] - Quote
Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
Those two quotes, no, just no.
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
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Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.12.29 10:48:00 -
[62] - Quote
Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
once again, you're an idiot Atim, all it takes to become a logi is the suit, no uplinks no hives no injecters
Reading Comprehension is lacking with this one. I said competent Logi. If you don't have Repair Tools, Nanite Injectors, Uplinks, Nanohives and Active Scanners (maybe not the Scanners) then you aren't a competent Logi. Your a tourist. That's like a guy saying he's a tanker when he has access to nothing but an AUR turret and a basic hull.
How dare you forget remote explosives.
Also why do you get so little WP's? |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
233
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:00:00 -
[63] - Quote
Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
When they speak about Overpowered Logi they mean "Assault Logi"
Logisuits used for Assault purpose so they don't fit equipements and use all the PG/CPU to fit Complex armor plates / extenders and proto weapons.
Because yes true Logi can't make slayers suits because equipements takes at least 1/3 of the PG/CPU.
Repair : 10PG
Nanohives : 7PG (12 if oyu want it to repair)
Drop uplinks : 11PG
The real problem are "Assault" logi or Logi that use some ****** equipements to fit better weapons. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
637
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:13:00 -
[64] - Quote
Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU. When they speak about Overpowered Logi they mean "Assault Logi" Logisuits used for Assault purpose so they don't fit equipements and use all the PG/CPU to fit Complex armor plates / extenders and proto weapons. Because yes true Logi can't make slayers suits because equipements takes at least 1/3 of the PG/CPU. Repair : 10PG Nanohives : 7PG (12 if oyu want it to repair) Drop uplinks : 11PG The real problem are "Assault" logi or Logi that use some ****** equipements to fit better weapons.
the wierd part is how he referances "competant" logis as if somehow having 10m SP automatically makes you competant and having below that automatically makes you incompetant....
a competant logi requires..... level 1 in logistics suits, the rest can be made of entirely miliita gear.... in fact its an exccelent way for newer players to get experiance in the game and contribute to a team as they learn their gun game and get their feet wet.
my logi build isnt exactly a logi-bro, im a specialist wich is another valid use of a logistics suit, i do demolitions and my builds require multiple equipments, some being quite high in quality (doing it without a ishicone gaged nanohive is hard....)
as a community we need to start seperating logistics as a suit from the logi-bro role. |
Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1184
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:38:00 -
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the weird part is you ppl are too ****ing stupid to realise you're being trolled by a twit, making you even less than a twit, |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
638
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:44:00 -
[66] - Quote
Beld Errmon wrote:the weird part is you ppl are too ****ing stupid to realise you're being trolled by a twit, making you even less than a twit,
hush, the trolls are pretending to have adult conversations with themselves at each other.
doors that way >>>>>>>>>
let us have our fun |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2759
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Posted - 2013.12.29 21:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:
logistics is a suit sir.
not a role.
logi-bro is a role
demolitions is a role
resupply is a role
logi-assault is also unfortunatly a role
logistics is just the suit, what you put in it defines your role. it just so happens that many people refer to roles primarily by the suit, as usually in a combat situation it gives you a good idea of the general capabilities of the suit and what they may be geared towards.
next your going to tell me minimtar medium frame is a role, and sentinal is a role.... scout in itself isnt a role either, its what you do with it thats the role... for example "minja", stealth flanker, city rush, hunter, rear guard, forward scout etc etc etc.
suit /= role
there not everything you say is true happy now?
(i also have a driver class... wich has a repair tool on a vannila medium frame :P)
(also i have a logi suit with absolutly no equipment :P its a ninja hacker minmatar logi with complex hack mods in the lows :P its still a logi despite having no equipment, why? becuase its a logistics suit, its ROLE is ninja hacks....
Quote:
The Logistics dropsuit is outfitted with the latest in integrated diagnostic technology. most of which revolves around maintaining the condition and efficiency of squad mates and their equipment. As such, a soldier equipped with this class of dropsuit becomes a force multiplier, greatly improving the overall effectiveness of the unit.
Utilizing a combination of high - and low-tech equipment, operators of the logistics suit are able to make effective repairs to installations, vehicles and even other soldiers; every apparatus required for field triage is present and easily accessible from the utility pockets and satchels attached to the suit. It;s hydraulic assisted exoskeleton allows the wearer to effortlessly hoist heavy equipment, while the helmet is packed with material scanners sensitive enough to spot microfracuters in layered steel.
When deployed, a soldier equipped with a Logistics suit fills a vital tactical role in small unit operations and full scale warfare, providing both, medical and mechanical support.
The Merriam Webster dictionary defines Logistics as such:
Quote:
the things that must be done to plan and organize a complicated activity or event that involves many people
Because of this, a person wearing the Logistics who uses certain equipment based on the situation at hand would technically be fulfilling the role of Logistics, making Logistics a technically role.
Also, I'd never say Minmatar Medium Frame is a role. But I would say that assault is a role.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2759
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Posted - 2013.12.29 21:24:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:the weird part is you ppl are too ****ing stupid to realise you're being trolled by a twit, making you even less than a twit,
Gee. I guess tankers don't fancy people using their "logic" and applying to something. Loving their mentalities.
Infantry just.... doesn't.... understand.
FORGE MASTER RACE
Teamwork For Thee, But no Teamwork For Me.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2759
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Posted - 2013.12.29 21:28:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:
Which is why he should be CPM! Hip hip hooray!
I don't think anyone would want me on the CPM board.
In fact, I think it would make vehicle pilots quit.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2910
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Posted - 2014.01.01 20:26:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:
How dare you forget remote explosives.
Also why do you get so little WP's?
Having REs doesn't make you a competent logi. It makes you a crazed psychopath who enjoys seeing +150s fly on the screen while also getting satisfaction from leading people into their near-inevitable death.
I getting so little WP? You mind going into detail on that one?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2921
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Posted - 2014.01.02 01:36:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:I think anyone with a middle school brain and smarter can see what youv done here.
And I hope that anyone with a middle school brain and smart can see that this logic is heavily flawed.
Then again, we all know that tunnelvision runs might in some tankers here.
Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate
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Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2014.01.02 09:42:00 -
[72] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:
How dare you forget remote explosives.
Also why do you get so little WP's?
Having REs doesn't make you a competent logi. It makes you a crazed psychopath who enjoys seeing +150s fly on the screen while also getting satisfaction from leading people into their near-inevitable death. I getting so little WP? You mind going into detail on that one?
A couple of days ago I was put on a team against you, bojo, 2 ads pilots and 2 tankers in ambush. That match you went 5/0 or 5/3 but you only got 350 warpoints.Bojo killed me while I was climbing the ladder and I got taken out by the python twice wasn't using scanner fit so that was my fault. |
FAKIR REDETTa
0uter.Heaven
87
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:23:00 -
[73] - Quote
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:26:00 -
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FAKIR REDETTa wrote:GöîGê¬GöÉ(>_<)GöîGê¬GöÉGöúGûçGûçGûçGòÉGöÇGöÇ
fakir get back in a fat suit ffs!!!!
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
3615
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:30:00 -
[75] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:
How dare you forget remote explosives.
Also why do you get so little WP's?
Having REs doesn't make you a competent logi. It makes you a crazed psychopath who enjoys seeing +150s fly on the screen while also getting satisfaction from leading people into their near-inevitable death.I getting so little WP? You mind going into detail on that one?
*shivers in arousal*
Excuse me I have a combustible that requires detonation. 
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Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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FAKIR REDETTa
0uter.Heaven
87
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:42:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:FAKIR REDETTa wrote:GöîGê¬GöÉ(>_<)GöîGê¬GöÉGöúGûçGûçGûçGòÉGöÇGöÇ fakir get back in a fat suit ffs!!!!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1620
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:46:00 -
[77] - Quote
Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
But tanks are OP.
So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
LOL!
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
335
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
nicely done. Good analogy. |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1329
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Posted - 2014.01.02 10:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
Or just go solo against full teams with an Assault Suit to the point that they won't be able to sit down for a week, then send em a GG mail. I know i do :)
If they don't respond, you just dug yourself some quality team tears.
Its going to be hilarious when the day comes when the Logi suit is no longer a crutch.
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"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
216
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Posted - 2014.01.02 11:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:the weird part is you ppl are too ****ing stupid to realise you're being trolled by a twit, making you even less than a twit, Gee. I guess tankers don't fancy people using their "logic" and applying to something. Loving their mentalities.
Infantry just.... doesn't.... understand.
FORGE MASTER RACE
Teamwork For Thee, But no Teamwork For Me, such is the motta of us AV infantry.edit: Credit goes to ReGnYuM on that first part.
btw tanks in games are thing that take high damage
stop standing infront of a blaster tank
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Aderek
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
54
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Posted - 2014.01.02 11:13:00 -
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Minmatar logi suit as SLAVE of Squad :)
I love my "Proto Slave Suit" and my squad love me to. I have proto repair tool, proto nanohive, proto scaner and proto inc. I put full plate armor and i havent pg/cpu to use weapon. So i must use standard rail ;) If some one tells me so logi have to much energii is a layer! Logi is not a killer, but can. If i use only standard eq a can use proto rail and i have almoust 800hp armor (but when my eq is only to use for me, is unusable for my team).
Please dont nerf logi's suits! I realy want to heal, revire and transport nanohive to my squad.
Good hunting! |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
207
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Posted - 2014.01.02 12:14:00 -
[82] - Quote
I'm missing something here...
'Don't talk to stranger, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
I will never stop killing you.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
683
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Posted - 2014.01.02 13:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
I'm sorry. Have we been playing the same game ?! The best way to counter a logi should be an Assault. Not the other way around. Logi's spend a lot of SP into all the Equipments, which is very true. So does and assault player. From the suite, weapons, modules... But right now an Assault ck0 will loose to a lolLogi ck0 any day.
With 4 high and 3 lows and nerfed CPU and PG, minus 1 less equipment to Assault ck0, you'd have very little options with that suit. When a lolLogi ck0, Gal-logi, Amar logi... Well everyone knows what they are being used for. Now the only thing that the ck0 had, SHIELD Regen + Regulator has been nerfed too. Should i ask for respec for that ? I know discription said it's for Assault, the other one is LOGI. . . So when you say lolLogi suits are not OP it's like the rest saying Tank vs AV is balanced. |
Yoma Carrim
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NAV HIV wrote:Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU. I'm sorry. Have we been playing the same game ?! The best way to counter a logi should be an Assault. Not the other way around. Logi's spend a lot of SP into all the Equipments, which is very true. So does and assault player. From the suite, weapons, modules... But right now an Assault ck0 will loose to a lolLogi ck0 any day. With 4 high and 3 lows and nerfed CPU and PG, minus 1 less equipment to Assault ck0, you'd have very little options with that suit. When a lolLogi ck0, Gal-logi, Amar logi... Well everyone knows what they are being used for. Now the only thing that the ck0 had, SHIELD Regen + Regulator has been nerfed too. Should i ask for respec for that ? I know discription said it's for Assault, the other one is LOGI. . . So when you say lolLogi suits are not OP it's like the rest saying Tank vs AV is balanced.
This entire post just went right over your head didn't it?
Atiim is using the Logi illusion to highlight the problems with current tanker argument as to why AV is underpowered compared to the vehicles they are facing
When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
Logi, Tanker, Heavy
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:25:00 -
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lol
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NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:30:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Atiim wrote:I fail to see the problem here. You guys just need to get good.
CCP has made it to where the best way to counter a logi is to either have your squad rush them head on, or simply field a logi of your own.
What is the problem with squading up with a competent logi? NONE.
I don't know why you guys are b!tching. Just squad up with a competent logi or get a logi of your own.
Do you know how much SP it takes to even become a competent logi?
Between maxing out the Uplinks, Nanites, Active Scanners, and Repair Tools, as well as the Core Skills it takes to be able to fit this stuff, it costs well over 10mil SP.
That's over 10mil SP. I better stomp. So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU. I'm sorry. Have we been playing the same game ?! The best way to counter a logi should be an Assault. Not the other way around. Logi's spend a lot of SP into all the Equipments, which is very true. So does and assault player. From the suite, weapons, modules... But right now an Assault ck0 will loose to a lolLogi ck0 any day. With 4 high and 3 lows and nerfed CPU and PG, minus 1 less equipment to Assault ck0, you'd have very little options with that suit. When a lolLogi ck0, Gal-logi, Amar logi... Well everyone knows what they are being used for. Now the only thing that the ck0 had, SHIELD Regen + Regulator has been nerfed too. Should i ask for respec for that ? I know discription said it's for Assault, the other one is LOGI. . . So when you say lolLogi suits are not OP it's like the rest saying Tank vs AV is balanced. This entire post just went right over your head didn't it? Atiim is using the Logi illusion to highlight the problems with the current tanker argument as to why AV not is underpowered compared to the vehicles they are facing
LOL didn't go through the entire thing. Just read his post lol... My bad.. However the AR vs lolLOGI is also something that has not been dealt with yet |
NAV HIV
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Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh?
My bad i didn't see it either lol |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.04 05:55:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Atiim wrote:Subject 36 wrote:Nobody talks about the Logi's being OP anymore. This month's QQ topic are tanks. So you don't see what I did there huh? My bad i didn't see it either lol
Don't worry about it dude.
If you didn't notice it at first, then it means I'm doing it right. :)
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.04 05:59:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:
A couple of days ago I was put on a team against you, bojo, 2 ads pilots and 2 tankers in ambush. That match you went 5/0 or 5/3 but you only got 350 warpoints.Bojo killed me while I was climbing the ladder and I got taken out by the python twice wasn't using scanner fit so that was my fault.
If it was that Ambush game, then it was 5/0.
I was just fooling around with the Laser Rifle.
Heck, I might've gone 5/6 if Bojo didn't come to save my sorry @$$ every time.
GG.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:02:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:
But tanks are OP.
So squad up with a competent logi, become one yourself, or HTFU.
LOL!
It's sarcasm Spkr4TheDead.
Now do you see the problem with your logic?
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Ludvig Enraga
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Bunny Demon wrote:Yes.....that is all (Also I agree with the tankers to some degree that it should take more than one AVer to destroy a tank/dropship and this is from an AVer/militia tanker )
You know that in real life one AV can burn a tank that's 50-100 times more expensive right?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Bunny Demon wrote:Yes.....that is all (Also I agree with the tankers to some degree that it should take more than one AVer to destroy a tank/dropship and this is from an AVer/militia tanker ) You know that in real life one AV can burn a tank that's 50-100 times more expensive right?
That's cause it's far easier to destroy something than it is to create it. Tanks are no exception. AV is made to destroy vehicles.
I thought that BF3 had AV perfect. A single smaw could wound a tank, or solo it if you were a very good engineer (or if it was a terrible tanker). For the most part though, it would take 2-3 AV to quickly kill a tank before it could escape. But a single AV was normally enough to discourage attack.
Not so here. It takes around 2-3 AV just to discourage an attack. A single AV just makes a tanker scoff, as they eliminate you first and continue on their way. 2-3 AV is what you need to force it to activate modules, which it then uses to go on rampage until it retreats to let it's modules cool down.
However, I think the tanks just need a little tweaking to be fixed. Hardeners are the real problem. They need their cooldowns adjusted. The "window's of opportunity" are almost non-existent due to their cooldowns and the ability to run two hardeners. They also need to reduce the number of tanks on the field to 2. I feel that this would make Tanks fine again.
Just my 0.02 ISK.
Feel free to troll, lol, hate, or debate as you see fit.
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Ninjanomyx
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Cat Merc wrote:This thread is approved by Cat Merc.
It has earned the official Cat Merc Seal of Approval(CMSoP)!
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Atiim
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Ninjanomyx wrote:Cat Merc wrote:This thread is approved by Cat Merc.
It has earned the official Cat Merc Seal of Approval(CMSoP)! Cat's can't spell..................................^ PROOF ^
Do you ever have any positive feedback to give?
Stop being so negative all the time. It's not perfect for your health.
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