DUST Search - Possible Fix to pub issues.

Ghosts Chance wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

Ghosts Chance wrote:

the biggest threat to pub balance isnt gear!

its squads!

matchmaking doesnt seem to think squads are important and so teams are one sided because one side has 1-2 organised squads and the other one doesnt.

your solution does nothing to remedy this and so we would have the same problem.

i tested this with my guys, we all made basic suits and STOMPED the hell out of randoms with em. your fix would not prevent this.

read very carefully, this would possibly fix the problem of proto stomping because proto would not be allowed in fights against militia or std gear, what this will not fix is people who stomp with militia gear alone, read before you say something.

yah but proto stomping on its own is harmless... a single guy in proto gear isnt doing much in a pub game.

its the whole squad of them that create that scenario, and while limiting gear will remove the ptoto aspect of that, vetrens will just max out lower tiered suits and do it that way. its the squads that arnt being balanced in games creating all this "stomping" so you can remove the proto this way you cant remove the "stomp" making the whole solution pointless as it doesnt solve the actual problem

the pub issue is the stomp, not the proto


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Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 2294	Posted - 2013.12.28 07:40:00 - [1] - Quote Make 4 Different varieties of each match in the battle finder. Ambush- Ambush Militia, Ambush STD, Ambush ADV, Ambush PRO. Domination- Domination Militia, Domination STD, Domination ADV, Domination PRO. Skirmish- Skirmish Militia, Skirmish STD, Skirmish ADV, Skirmish PRO. The way it could possibly work is this way: Militia Variant(Everyone can play in these matches)- Only militia fitting are allowed, nothing above militia grade is allowed. STD Variant(Unlocked when player gains STD dropsuit and or weapons)- Only STD & Militia fittings are allowed, nothing above STD is allowed. (this will create a small gap between player fittings and gear that can be overcome and are in reach). ADV Variant(Unlocked when player gains ADV dropsuit and or weapons)- Only STD & ADV fittings are allowed, nothing above ADV or below STD is allowed. (this will give players a fun challenge to overcome someone while increasing their skills along the way). PRO Variant(Unlocked when player gains PROTO dropsuit or weapons)- Only ADV & PRO fittings are allowed, nothing below ADV is allowed. (this version is the ultimate pub challenge besides PC). This will possibly fix the gear gap between players. It will not fix pub stomping as there are a lot of players that can go 40-0, 30-2 in militia gear alone, those people will still be around but the problem with proto stomping will possibly be fixed. Any flaws, additions or suggestions? Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 2295	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:19:00 - [2] - Quote anyone else? Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 2295	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:22:00 - [3] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: the biggest threat to pub balance isnt gear! its squads! matchmaking doesnt seem to think squads are important and so teams are one sided because one side has 1-2 organised squads and the other one doesnt. your solution does nothing to remedy this and so we would have the same problem. i tested this with my guys, we all made basic suits and STOMPED the hell out of randoms with em. your fix would not prevent this. read very carefully, this would possibly fix the problem of proto stomping because proto would not be allowed in fights against militia or std gear, what this will not fix is people who stomp with militia gear alone, read before you say something. Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 2295	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:35:00 - [4] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Void Echo wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: the biggest threat to pub balance isnt gear! its squads! matchmaking doesnt seem to think squads are important and so teams are one sided because one side has 1-2 organised squads and the other one doesnt. your solution does nothing to remedy this and so we would have the same problem. i tested this with my guys, we all made basic suits and STOMPED the hell out of randoms with em. your fix would not prevent this. read very carefully, this would possibly fix the problem of proto stomping because proto would not be allowed in fights against militia or std gear, what this will not fix is people who stomp with militia gear alone, read before you say something. yah but proto stomping on its own is harmless... a single guy in proto gear isnt doing much in a pub game. its the whole squad of them that create that scenario, and while limiting gear will remove the ptoto aspect of that, vetrens will just max out lower tiered suits and do it that way. its the squads that arnt being balanced in games creating all this "stomping" so you can remove the proto this way you cant remove the "stomp" making the whole solution pointless as it doesnt solve the actual problem the pub issue is the stomp, not the proto your not listening, by doing this, were making it so that new players can feel like they actually can make it, instead of being put against full proto pussies, they will be put against people with the same level of gear Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.
Void Echo KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 2295	Posted - 2013.12.28 19:39:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: So if you skill into proto AR, but everything else is STD, you get put into pro matches? no, you would have the option Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.