DUST Search - [Request] Swarm missiles travel at a realistic speed

Asha Starwind wrote:

So much fail in this thread, this is basic high schools physics.

F=ma, for the sake of the argument presented as a=F/m

F = Force provided by the fuel/propellant
m = mass of the warhead being propelled
a =acceleration, self-explanatory (i hope i'm not giving you guys too much
credit here)

Time for some conjecture, now let's take the FGM-148 and the fictional swarm launcher since the FGM was mentioned first and they are both fired from shoulder mounted launchers. The Javelin is massive by comparison it takes up as much space as the launcher itself compared to a swarm missile which are fired 5-6 at a time and are packaged in a lunch box sized magazine that holds (15-18) of them.

So it's safe to say the m[fontsize=2]fgm[/fontsize] is greater than m[fontsize=2]swarm[/fontsize]

Let's assume both propellants are equally efficient, so F[fontsize=2]fgm[/fontsize] and F[fontsize=2]swarm[/fontsize] are equally proportionate but since swarm missles travel a lot further than throwing distance, F applied on a swarm missle is significantly less than the FGM.

Therefore going back to the previously mention equation:

a=FGçè/mGåô GçÆ aGåô


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TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 315	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:22:00 - [1] - Quote I'm no ordinance tech, but I know the AT-4 travels at 285m per second, and the BGM-71 TOW travels at about 278m per second. Swarm missiles in Dust don't travel anywhere near those speeds.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 316	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:26:00 - [2] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Muzzle velocity of an AT-4 is 950 feet per second. Swarms should move at least that fast. Well, the AT-4 is an unguided, medium-range rocket. The closest comparisons I can think of to the Swarm Launcher would be the FGM-148 Javelin or the FIM-92 Stinger, both of which are actual missiles, guided, man-portable, and fired from the ground. The Javelin has a speed of about 108m per second, and the Stinger about 700m per second. However, the Javelin is primarily an anti-TANK weapon, and has an irregular flight path (it takes off diagonally, then drops down on top of the target). The Stinger can be used against borh airborne and ground targets, and is direct fire with tracking (it flies directly at the target and moves to follow it), so it would be the more apt of the two.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 317	Posted - 2013.12.28 04:37:00 - [3] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: So much fail in this thread, this is basic high schools physics. F=ma, for the sake of the argument presented as a=F/m F = Force provided by the fuel/propellant m = mass of the warhead being propelled a =acceleration, self-explanatory (i hope i'm not giving you guys too much credit here) Time for some conjecture, now let's take the FGM-148 and the fictional swarm launcher since the FGM was mentioned first and they are both fired from shoulder mounted launchers. The Javelin is massive by comparison it takes up as much space as the launcher itself compared to a swarm missile which are fired 5-6 at a time and are packaged in a lunch box sized magazine that holds (15-18) of them. So it's safe to say the m[fontsize=2]fgm[/fontsize] is greater than m[fontsize=2]swarm[/fontsize] Let's assume both propellants are equally efficient, so F[fontsize=2]fgm[/fontsize] and F[fontsize=2]swarm[/fontsize] are equally proportionate but since swarm missles travel a lot further than throwing distance, F applied on a swarm missle is significantly less than the FGM. Therefore going back to the previously mention equation: a=FGçè/mGåô GçÆ aGåô So the conclusion of that, in words, would be...?
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 317	Posted - 2013.12.28 04:45:00 - [4] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: I don't really care about totally realistic physics, but what I do know is that swarm missiles need to go much faster. An anti-vehicle missile that can be outrun by most vehicles is a terrible anti-vehicle missile. So are ones that can be shaken off like water balloons hitting a... tank.