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Kasote Denzara wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist.

Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot.

Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol.

CR and even RR would eat that armor away in no time flat. I know because they eat through my heavies that are heavily armor plated. Does not matter at all how much armor or shield you have- you can still easily be killed. My usual suit has 374 armor and shields (totaling up to 648) and I eat both shield tankers and armor tankers. (I could get it higher by skilling out the rest of my cores, but **** that.) Heavies, logistics, assaults, paper people- it doesn't matter. Commando is able to dual gank, giving it the upperhand over every other suit in the game.

The Gallentean Logistic suit has the reduction to equipment usage. Logibros often prefer this suit over the others because of it. The reason why you see people (attempting) to use it as a slayer is because of the passive armor repair and the number of lows. These people (the slayers) will never use the suit's equipment bonus like a logibro would. Changing the logistic suits of the other three factions into doing the same would not change the slayer situation, but instead open the way to racially different logibros.

As for changing highs and lows, I wouldn't complain to see one high and low being cut from ALL logistic suits.

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Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 871	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:08:00 - [1] - Quote Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Tectonic Fusion 844	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:09:00 - [2] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Because CCP designed the game so you can fit your suit however the ** you want to fit it? Solo Player Squad status: Locked**
Grease Spillett Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 338	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:09:00 - [3] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Cause he dies in .5 secs to CR. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1646	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:10:00 - [4] - Quote He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 4015	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:12:00 - [5] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. Not really. You get a +5HP/s as a Logi, and are able to equip Triage Hives, to rep yourself. DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6097	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:12:00 - [6] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Because CCP designed the game so you can fit your suit however the **** you want to fit it? What this guy said. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 726	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:12:00 - [7] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. because the logi ck.0 got mega nerfed and no one cared that the other logis had better fitting capabilities anyways. cus ccp logic is based off forum logic, and forum logic is- i haven't specced into it so i want it nerfed. and more people specced into the Gk.0. so the Ck.0 got nerfed. and now the Gk.0 is free to shine as king.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 562	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:13:00 - [8] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol.
The Attorney General 1703	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:13:00 - [9] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. Not really. You get a +5HP/s as a Logi, and are able to equip Triage Hives, to rep yourself. I don't think that he is running triage hives with that many plates on. Chews up most of the PG, and with the damage mods, I don't know how much there would be to spare. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 255	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:16:00 - [10] - Quote Logistics suits are the best Assault suits because we have only one Assault suit in the game, and Scrambler Rifles are not the current FOTM.

CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 490	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:17:00 - [11] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. This girl speaks the truth.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 33	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:23:00 - [12] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. Awww snap professor S.H.I.T. just got real!!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2613	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:26:00 - [13] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. Not really. You get a +5HP/s as a Logi, and are able to equip Triage Hives, to rep yourself. I don't think that he is running triage hives with that many plates on. Chews up most of the PG, and with the damage mods, I don't know how much there would be to spare. This ^^^ Though it is likely that he has one, as the Gallente Logistics does have a fitting reduction bonus to equipment. But even then. 4 Complex Armor Plates and 3 Complex Damage Mods, along with a Prototype Weapon would easily eat up any CPU/PG that the suit has. Does 5HP/s even make a difference? Especially with 931HP. That's 3:06 minutes or the armor to be restored. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 534	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:26:00 - [14] - Quote Its a customization game, what do you expect? *Assassination is my thing.*
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1646	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:28:00 - [15] - Quote Bethhy wrote: See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. CR and even RR would eat that armor away in no time flat. I know because they eat through my heavies that are heavily armor plated. Does not matter at all how much armor or shield you have- you can still easily be killed. My usual suit has 374 armor and shields (totaling up to 648) and I eat both shield tankers and armor tankers. (I could get it higher by skilling out the rest of my cores, but **** that.) Heavies, logistics, assaults, paper people- it doesn't matter. Commando is able to dual gank, giving it the upperhand over every other suit in the game. The Gallentean Logistic suit has the reduction to equipment usage. Logibros often prefer this suit over the others because of it. The reason why you see people (attempting) to use it as a slayer is because of the passive armor repair and the number of lows. These people (the slayers) will never use the suit's equipment bonus like a logibro would. Changing the logistic suits of the other three factions into doing the same would not change the slayer situation, but instead open the way to racially different logibros. As for changing highs and lows, I wouldn't complain to see one high and low being cut from ALL logistic suits. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 467	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:30:00 - [16] - Quote Coming from a guy who has been proto gk.o since there was one, if he has that much armor and dmg mods he has nothing in his eq slots. Have you ever tried to repair 900ar at 5hp/s? I takes all match, plus he is slow as hell with all those complex plates on. Like 4m/s slow, thats heavy slow. Tbh he is better off using a duvolle with a heavy suit, riding around in a LAV. Like everyone else not running a HAV right now
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 129	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:30:00 - [17] - Quote working as intended.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2234	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:33:00 - [18] - Quote How exactly did you work out his was using 3 x Damage mods? Because as far as I know you can't see those stats by looking at the suit or if that person told you; are you sure they weren't trolling you? Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 202	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:38:00 - [19] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. wait, the logi needs high cpu and pg, the logi cpu/pg should be second to none, and thid guy with 900 armor is really slow, and really when you take his shields off, the HMG, SMG, CR, Locus and even the Flaylock will shred him, you should treat him as an assault because he is using a medium suit, and because CCP gave us the chance to fit as we want, but i agree with the equipment fitting bonuses Dragons don't have friends. The nearest we can get to the idea is an enemy who is still alive.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2613	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:39:00 - [20] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. I defend the 5HP/s regen, and I hardly use my suits for the "slayer" role. Ad hominem and generalizing an entire portion of the playerbase will not make your point anymore credible. I believe that the 5HP/s is needed so that the Logistics remain self-dependent. What use is a medic if s/he gets banged up and requires yet another medic? Instead of remove slots, why not ADD a slot to the other suits? It would give them more versatility, as well as allowing the Minmatar scout to perform it's role properly (flanking), by allowing it to dodge the almighty Duvolle Focused Active Scanner. Plus the scouts need a better slot layout. Badly. Funny. My SB-39 Rail Rifle shreds through GalLogis with ease, and my Boundless Combat Rifle? Kills him in .5 seconds on my Minmatar Assault suit. My HMG is actually fixed now so as long as I stay within MY optimal, I will be to shred through him quickly. I would say yes to an extra CPU/PG fitting bonus however. But the Logistics needs to have a native armor repair. Heck, all armor needs a native repair of at least 5HP/s. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 563	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:40:00 - [21] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Bethhy wrote: See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. CR and even RR would eat that armor away in no time flat. I know because they eat through my heavies that are heavily armor plated. Does not matter at all how much armor or shield you have- you can still easily be killed. My usual suit has 374 armor and shields (totaling up to 648) and I eat both shield tankers and armor tankers. (I could get it higher by skilling out the rest of my cores, but **** that.) Heavies, logistics, assaults, paper people- it doesn't matter. Commando is able to dual gank, giving it the upperhand over every other suit in the game. The Gallentean Logistic suit has the reduction to equipment usage. Logibros often prefer this suit over the others because of it. The reason why you see people (attempting) to use it as a slayer is because of the passive armor repair and the number of lows. These people (the slayers) will never use the suit's equipment bonus like a logibro would. Changing the logistic suits of the other three factions into doing the same would not change the slayer situation, but instead open the way to racially different logibros. As for changing highs and lows, I wouldn't complain to see one high and low being cut from ALL logistic suits. Nah you reduce the PG and CPU so fitting damage and brick tanks are near impossible to fit... Don't give them more slots to fit health... just give them more base health... and make it hard to fit proto modules other then Equipment.. would make their suits cheaper and make them specialized. Logi's SHOULD have high base health, Logi's SHOULD have equipment fitting bonus to be a logi, Logi's SHOULD have high stamina so they can sprint with their squad or from place to place to provide support. Logi's as they are right now was built to be a slayer suit... anyone good at theroy crafting yelled at CCP about it in Chromosome.. and we still are... 7 patches almost 8 later....
ReGnYuM Imperfects 1617	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:41:00 - [22] - Quote LoL @ these forum scum questioning Aldin. Aldin is the reason, both directly and indirectly, CCP is able to feed themselves and their families . Show some goddamn respect Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset To the Matari, I am the equivalent to the Boogie Man
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2613	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:49:00 - [23] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: LoL @ these forum scum questioning Aldin. Alldin is the reason, both directly and indirectly, CCP is able to feed themselves and their families . Show some goddamn respect Not questioning Aldin, but I'll bite anyway. I'm pretty sure that CCP is able to fed themselves and their families because of the revenue generated from EVE Online. Not because of 1 player playing a Free-To-Play game. Alldin Kan gets the same respect as any other regular player. Despite being in the Imperfects corporation, I have yet to see him contribute to the well being of this game in the way that people such as the CPMs, Judge Rhamdanthus, DEVs, and a vast majority of people whose names I currently forgot. When Alldin Kan does something actually beneficial, then he will earn respect of these "forums". We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1053	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:53:00 - [24] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: LoL @ these forum scum questioning Aldin. Aldin is the reason, both directly and indirectly, CCP is able to feed themselves and their families . Show some goddamn respect Why because he has the most sp through the hundreds perhaps even over thousand dollars he has poured into the game. Tanker/Assault Can I have my ADV and PRO tanks now (Honeyed Lamb enroute).
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2409	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:03:00 - [25] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: How exactly did you work out his was using 3 x Damage mods? Because as far as I know you can't see those stats by looking at the suit or if that person told you; are you sure they weren't trolling you? You can tell by how much shields they have and weather they are at full health or not.....plus who doesn't run Dmg mods on a murder logi gallogi? Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 467	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:03:00 - [26] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: LoL @ these forum scum questioning Aldin. Aldin is the reason, both directly and indirectly, CCP is able to feed themselves and their families . Show some goddamn respect Pretty sure you havent looked at my post history. Ive already stated, a few times, that alldin is the ONLY imp i have ever had any respect for. Which is why im so puzzled by this post...
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 155	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:11:00 - [27] - Quote Like others, I think Bethhy gets it. That said, I think the logis should lose a slot or two, and assautls gain a slot or two -- and correct PG/CPU accordingly. If done correctly it would make me pick up the assault suit when I want to play that role, and my logi suit when I want to play a more traditional logibro. As it is, the logi plays both the slayer and logibro roles, and leads towards less diversity on the playing field. To the OP: I will also add that my RR eats through those 900+ armor hit points rather quickly, and I generally win battles against them in my dual tanked caldari logi with about 850 HP and two damage mods. Before the introduction of this weapon (and the CR), I might have agreed with you. Now I'm not so sure gk.0 armor tanking it's as powerful as it once was -- they are slower and there are two weapons that eat them alive. Hope you all had a Happy Holiday...Leadfoot
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1415	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:19:00 - [28] - Quote All of you who suggest taking a slot and decreasing the CPU/pg of the logi suits are just trying to kill the class how about we try one thing at a time you know like an expiroment. Most of you are starting to sound like CCP's nerf hammer. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2618	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:21:00 - [29] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: All of you who suggest taking a slot and decreasing the CPU/pg of the logi suits are just trying to kill the class how about we try one thing at a time you know like an expiroment. Most of you are starting to sound like CCP's nerf hammer. Most of them ARE CCP's nerf hammer. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1836	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:49:00 - [30] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. because the logi ck.0 got mega nerfed and no one cared that the other logis had better fitting capabilities anyways. cus ccp logic is based off forum logic, and forum logic is- i haven't specced into it so i want it nerfed. and more people specced into the Gk.0. so the Ck.0 got nerfed. and now the Gk.0 is free to shine as king. Wrong. The gk.0 was not as good back then because still has crazy low hp values with high speed penalties. The gk.0 didn't rise till plates were buffed. Edit:To the OP, I have no idea. It would be nice to play a PC and not see yellow suits all over the other team. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 871	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:46:00 - [31] - Quote Just looked at the possible fittings and I got this: CPU space wasn't an issue and with max skills the PG should be at 102. 4x Complex Plates + 1 Enhanced plate takes up 54 PG 3x Damage Mods takes up 27 PG A Proto Triage Nanohive takes up 11 PG (suit bonus included) A Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle takes up 4 PG A normal nanohive will take up 3 PG (suit bonus included) Total PG used is 99 out of 102, although you could use a second enhanced plate instead of 4th complex if PG skill is not maxed. Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
mollerz Minja Scouts 1448	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:48:00 - [32] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Because CCP designed the game so you can fit your suit however the **** you want to fit it? What this guy said. Unless you are a scout.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 871	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:51:00 - [33] - Quote mollerz wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Because CCP designed the game so you can fit your suit however the **** you want to fit it? What this guy said. Unless you are a scout. Score of 10-7 confirms it, somehow I still remember it. Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Llast 326 An Arkhos 989	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:54:00 - [34] - Quote mollerz wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Because CCP designed the game so you can fit your suit however the **** you want to fit it? What this guy said. Unless you are a scout. It's pretty much designed so that you can fit a Logi pretty much however you want. CPU/PG and slot parity would help create more dynamic fittings, and suits in this game. KRRROOOOOOM
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 580	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:56:00 - [35] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: He'd have to put all armor plates in the lows for that. That's extremely inefficient. See how well a heavy or an assault could dual that.. or even stand a chance if that logi is any good with aim assist. Logistic suit's need to have Equipment fitting bonuses... So you can fit all proto equipment for almost no CPU and PG and severely reduce the PG and CPU on the suits and possibly remove a high and low slot. Until that is even considered logi suit = best slayer suit every time. and everyone defending it has all their slayer skills built around a logi suit lol. Based on the Dev blog with CCP Remnant earlier this month that sounds like pretty much what they are looking at doing. I think this in conjunction with reworking the assault suit perks will go along way.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1451	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:59:00 - [36] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: mollerz wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Because CCP designed the game so you can fit your suit however the **** you want to fit it? What this guy said. Unless you are a scout. Score of 10-7 confirms it, somehow I still remember it. the game where you tank killed me running to Delta :)? That was 10 knife kills I don't even think I busted out my CR that game. You got me that one time just as I was about to decapitate your team mate
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 116	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:02:00 - [37] - Quote If it's designed to be a Logistics suit but is being used as an Assault suit than something is wrong. Reduce the PG/CPU and give it fitting bonuses for Equipment.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9372	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:03:00 - [38] - Quote Remote reps YouTube Videos Incubus pilot, any ISK donated is used to purchase new ships
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 419	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:24:00 - [39] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Just looked at the possible fittings and I got this: CPU space wasn't an issue and with max skills the PG should be at 102. 4x Complex Plates + 1 Enhanced plate takes up 54 PG 3x Damage Mods takes up 27 PG A Proto Triage Nanohive takes up 11 PG (suit bonus included) A Republic Boundless Specialist Combat Rifle takes up 4 PG A normal nanohive will take up 3 PG (suit bonus included) Total PG used is 99 out of 102, although you could use a second enhanced plate instead of 4th complex if PG skill is not maxed. Tht is one equipment, an enhanced armor plate, and an ADV fitting weapon. That doesnmt seem super OP, yes he has 1200 HP, but he has a rep of 5. Heavies can do 1400 in armor alone and have 6 rep. Those wishing to remove slots are just blindly nerfbatting everything. A logi should be able to be more versatile, while that does lead to mass HP stacking, that is a result of ****** mods, poor base stats, and uber low TTK. Assaults need a slot layout that's different from basic frames, favoring mainly racial tank, whereas logis should be maknly split mod layout. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
CrotchGrab 360 1165	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:29:00 - [40] - Quote Put bluntly the logistics class is nothing but a SUPER assault class. is it meant to be support? how is it support when it can have almost 1000 armour? my assault has NO passive armour regen. oh hey guy who's supposed to be SUPPORT, stack all the armour you want and have passive armour regen. Assault suit? what are you doing here? no you're not getting passive armour regen stick behind the SUPPORT guy...

CrotchGrab 360 1166	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:32:00 - [41] - Quote Assault = your front-runner, designed to have high recharge and movement, hit and run, recharge, come back in. we depend on assault dropsuit users to act as killers. Logistics = not as fast or versatile as the assault class. can provide support to the front-line but it's main skills lie in EQUIPMENT. Resupplies mercs, creates spawn points, repairs dropsuits. Scout = recon, the only one who can use a scanner. because it's for RECON WORK. this is how it should be, not this ****-show we have right now.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2751	Posted - 2013.12.26 23:17:00 - [42] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Today I saw on my team a Logistics GK.0 with 931 Armor and 3 damage mods. Because you touch yourself at night. No.
The Furtive Pygmy Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 175	Posted - 2013.12.26 23:24:00 - [43] - Quote 3 damage mods and 1k EHP that can be repped at nearly 200/s with support.....on a class designed to take a passive support roll. This is what happens when you have no idea how to make a FPS. Anyone who thinks you'd beat this class in a 1v1 with a CR or RR is a moron, you would be dead before you could even think to aim. Logis should not be able to fit damage mods or be forced to fill all their equip slots. Even then you'll have 1200+ ehp monsters who can self rep. Logistics class needs an overhaul or damage reduction like the LLAVs had.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 293	Posted - 2013.12.26 23:58:00 - [44] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: Logistics suits are the best Assault suits because we have only one Assault suit in the game, and Scrambler Rifles are not the current FOTM. What? Do you mean that only one of the four racial assaults is viable, or did you just forget that it's only the heavy suit that's limited to one race?


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