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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 19:56:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Because it-¦s fun? Also more challenging than running around in pubs all day? Why are you here crying over a free video game? Fighting for Caladari or Amarr is not fun. Watching useless muppets go 0/10, or 2/20 all day is not fun. I guess when someone like you has never played a PC match, then FW must seem exciting. LOL PC matches exciting? You must be off your rocker mate! Either that or you were a lucky one who never experienced the absolute LAG and huge framerate drops that make the game mode (At least for me) totally unplayable. (Back in ANONYMOUS that is) Yes I did restart the PS3, yes we did get the best server location we could and yes most of my team also didn't seem to get it as bad as me. No my PS3 isn't dying and it isn't old - I think I was unlucky :( LAG? Usually never get LAG. Has nothing to do with luck either.. I Have a wicket connection and the game Port Forwarded of course. I also have my PS3 on a static IP. Super important for a good connection. Are you using the same/similar methods to avoid LAG? I have no idea. I have a fast internet connection and have 0 problems with any other games. And to be honest, apart from the odd bit of rubber-banding, lag isn't actually that much of a problem. When I say 'LAG' I really am referring to the sluggish frame rate. I can give you video examples of others that have recorded their gameplay if you would like to see just what I mean. I am sure you know what I mean. I don't have anything to record my games with otherwise I would have a stack of funny / frustrating videos to show. P.S Yes my PS3 is on a static I.P address. I have not checked any thing to do with port forwarding however. I should not need to. Also I fail to see how things of that nature have anything to do with single digit frame rates. I rarely get those problems in pub matches, yet I consistently got them in PC matches and so did a lot of others. If you wanna up your gameplay you should do those things for sure. Putting your game console on a static IP is essential. Made my gaming experience so much better. And this goes for all games. Your HDMI cable matters. Makes a huge difference. Especially if you have 1.2 or older.
All those things count for good gameplay but you have not tried one of them? Why is that? |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
541
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:00:00 -
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100 - 100
Assassination is my thing.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
905
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:12:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:So what happens once we reach level 10? You get called a nerd. That's about it. Is there a gathering of fools tonight? What-¦s going on here?? payout increases per level until level ten where it levels off at around 615lp per match.
FW isn't a serious game type ATM because it is completely unsustainable.
payout of a good pub: 200,000 isk losses from fighting in a pub: 150,000 isk (5 suits)
profit: 50,000 isk
payout from an FW match: 400lp (assuming you fight for that faction consistently) losses: 150,000 isk (5 suits)
profit: -150,000 isk
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ things I use from the LP store: fed duvolle, fed L blaster things i could use but don't: fed scout
currently aside from the specialist weapons the LP store doesn't really help veteran players very much. it offers higher tier items to lower SP toons and can in fact really good for people just starting the game. however most people you see on the forums aren't just starting the game. we have our playstyles mapped like the back of our hands and any relevant skills to them are maxxed out or at a level that we are happy with. I don't need a complex federation armor rep because I can purchase and use complex variants with isk.
managing LP and isk becomes difficult in that in an average match (above average now but that is a different story) I only make 50k profit. lets say I build a full LP suit I've never tried, I might later to prove the point but we'll say it cost an amount(X) LP and 10k isk.
suit cost = X + 10k isk lose 5 in a match. losses = 5X + 50k isk
assuming that 5X < LP payout you are left with an LP profit and and isk loss amounting to 50k
so you play a profitless pub (this model works both ways lp in pub and isk in fw)
basically you are always losing one currency while earning another, requiring the player to juggle both currencies to stay solvent. given the relative uselessness of LP to veteran players it is easier and more profitable to simply not play FW (and thus not take it seriously as a game type).
there you have it knight's master thesis on why FW isn't serious business.
wasn't 42 a simpler answer?
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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CRYPT3C W0LF
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
102
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:13:00 -
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Over 9000-
Almost level 10 for gallente easy mode
"Warning, Troll mod activated"
Youtube Channel
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
965
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:16:00 -
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12. I haven't unlocked soul eater yet. I'm waiting for my black mage to get to 15.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:18:00 -
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Expensive to run FW yes. For me this is not really a problem because I-¦m a one of those guys who were made into a multi millionaire back in Beta. I-¦ve spent around 40 millions so far closing in on Level 6. All good 2 me and having fun while doing it. |
Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:18:00 -
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Lvl 2 for both Amarr and Caldari. How I pulled that off is a mystery itself.
Will not touch Gallente or Minmitar. Ever. Even if there's a fire......
Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter
Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:20:00 -
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CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:Over 9000- Almost level 10 for gallente easy mode Well done brother. And yeah.. Some awesome warriors among us
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:28:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:So what happens once we reach level 10? You get called a nerd. That's about it. Is there a gathering of fools tonight? What-¦s going on here?? payout increases per level until level ten where it levels off at around 615lp per match. FW isn't a serious game type ATM because it is completely unsustainable. payout of a good pub: 200,000 isk losses from fighting in a pub: 150,000 isk (5 suits) profit: 50,000 isk payout from an FW match: 400lp (assuming you fight for that faction consistently) losses: 150,000 isk (5 suits) profit: -150,000 isk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ things I use from the LP store: fed duvolle, fed L blaster things i could use but don't: fed scout currently aside from the specialist weapons the LP store doesn't really help veteran players very much. it offers higher tier items to lower SP toons and can in fact really good for people just starting the game. however most people you see on the forums aren't just starting the game. we have our playstyles mapped like the back of our hands and any relevant skills to them are maxxed out or at a level that we are happy with. I don't need a complex federation armor rep because I can purchase and use complex variants with isk. managing LP and isk becomes difficult in that in an average match (above average now but that is a different story) I only make 50k profit. lets say I build a full LP suit I've never tried, I might later to prove the point but we'll say it cost an amount(X) LP and 10k isk. suit cost = X + 10k isk lose 5 in a match. losses = 5X + 50k isk assuming that 5X < LP payout you are left with an LP profit and and isk loss amounting to 50k so you play a profitless pub (this model works both ways lp in pub and isk in fw) basically you are always losing one currency while earning another, requiring the player to juggle both currencies to stay solvent. given the relative uselessness of LP to veteran players it is easier and more profitable to simply not play FW (and thus not take it seriously as a game type). there you have it knight's master thesis on why FW isn't serious business. wasn't 42 a simpler answer?
Incredibly informative. But this is the ISK sink CCP designed to suck it out of players' pockets. There is a ton of ISK floating around, but the LP doesn't translate in an ISK-2-LP model. Basic LP weaponry is 300% more expensive than ISK basic weapons.
But I can only hope the LP store expands soon. All those darn AR users flooded the Gallente side. Stop using Bacon to trick those mercs!!!
Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter
Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1417
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:14:00 -
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I got to lvl 2 for cal/amarr FW it took countless tears and about 4 rage quits a day but I did it. I DID IT!
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
174
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:42:00 -
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Level 5 amarr Level 5 caldari
I play hard mode. |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:16:00 -
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The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Level 5 amarr Level 5 caldari
I play hard mode. It-¦s actually nice 2 see a Caldari who is not butthurt at the moment. Well done making it toLevel 5 against the mighty Gallente. |
The Furtive Pygmy
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
175
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Posted - 2013.12.26 23:29:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:The Furtive Pygmy wrote:Level 5 amarr Level 5 caldari
I play hard mode. It-¦s actually nice 2 see a Caldari who is not butthurt at the moment. Well done making it to Level 5 against the mighty Gallente. Well it helps to qsync with the best players in the game. Gallente are a joke once you have a halfway decent team. I won 20 in a row for caldari just a few days ago. The key is a good qsync |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
443
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Posted - 2013.12.28 13:34:00 -
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Closing in on Level 6
Has anyone out there reached level 10? Or close to it? |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
971
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Posted - 2013.12.28 14:40:00 -
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After throwing away millions of ISK, I'm one win away from level 1 for Caldari
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2052
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Posted - 2013.12.28 14:52:00 -
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Amarr - 0 - 3 TK because of visual glitch on 3 tanks Caldari - 1 - Was 2 but visual glitch on a tank means i got kicked for TK after i shot his tank Gallente - 3 Minmatar - 0
Intelligence is OP
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
932
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Posted - 2013.12.28 15:01:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Because it-¦s fun? Also more challenging than running around in pubs all day? Why are you here crying over a free video game? Fighting for Caladari or Amarr is not fun. Watching useless muppets go 0/10, or 2/20 all day is not fun. I guess when someone like you has never played a PC match, then FW must seem exciting. Muppets Level 6 Gal, not because it is easy; because I wanted level 10 even before fw started. pubs are meaningless when proto douches come in. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
171
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Posted - 2013.12.28 15:22:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:
I guess when someone like you has never played a PC match, then FW must seem exciting.
It does seem more exciting than a pub match. I'm struggling here, are you talking down on those who haven't been in PC matches? From what I've experienced/heard about PC is that people fight to try and get host and abuse glitches while running constant proto gear for 20 minutes. FW seems to have the excitement of adding in FF while rewarding the win rather than just giving everyone a bunch of ISK. It seems to be a good compromise between getting stomped by Ancient Exiles in a PC and AFKing in pubs: try to win but if you don't want to waste a bunch of proto suits, the consequences of losing aren't as bad as PC.
I love that Dust 514 successfully created an environment in which a small subgroup of it's primary community could invest enough time/attention to feel superior over the people that just play the game to have fun. |
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