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pseudosnipre
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Posted - 2013.12.26 18:48:00 -
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frame interpolation? turn it off
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Shiro Mokuzan
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:32' is the perfect size for gaming on a console
If you're sitting about 4 feet away, yes.
There is an optimal viewing distance for any given TV size and resolution. Bigger isn't better and smaller isn't better. It all depends on your room size and how far away you are. |
Shiro Mokuzan
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:08:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:frame interpolation? turn it off
This. If it's too fluid, find some setting--depending in the TV it may be called something motion--and turn it off.
People really should do research about HDTVs before buying one. There's a lot of ways to get it wrong. |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:12:00 -
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DUST outputs its video at 720p - That's a resolution of 1280+ù720 (1280 pixels across and 720 down)
I have a 1920 x 1080 res screen that is only 28" and at times DUST doesn't look all that great as the screen is up-scaling the image to compensate for the lack or pixels. However it is fine and I am quite used to it.
I also think the PS3 has a rudimentary form of Anti-aliasing (A method that tries to smooth the jagged edges of pixels so they are not as apparent though I could be wrong here - WAIT I am wrong there is no AA on PS3 only a edge blurr filter so this could be contributing to the problems)
I can only imagine what that looks like on a huge 70 inch screen! o_0. Also do you know what the refresh rate of the screen is? That could be a cause for concern if it is really slow (I would guess it would be at least 50-60 Hz so there should not be a problem) |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:14:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Just out of curiosity how many hz does the tv flicker at? May also have to do with output hz not being dividable by the input fps, so somewhere inbetween a computer chip fills the blank cycles. Anyone know dusts framerate?
Dust framerate? = PC matches single figure :P
It is not a high frame rate most of the time I would say less than 30 fps but I think the video is output at 50Hz or 60Hz |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:16:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Refresh rate? I've played on 60inch TVs with a slow refresh rate, input lag made everyone else seem faster. Also the controls felt loose.
I bought a 48inch with a much higher refresh rate, and I've noticed everything else to be more precise.
^^^ This.
Try a gaming monitor from your PC that accepts 720p natively (i.e. no scaling) with HDMI if you want to minimize it.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
701
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:17:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:There can be issues with input lag on HDTVs - some come with a 'game mode' that is meant to improve the feel. Some info.
Just want to quote this because this is your problem. I forget exactly what it does, but i think it's some TV's delay the video stream for like a second to allow for better video processing, which is why it looks so fluid. In game mode, the extra second is removed and I think the quality is marginally lower. So basically the shiny effect is delaying what you see and what is happening in the game by a second so you're literally behind a second.
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
965
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:18:00 -
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My friend has a freaking 80+" and I can't track anything on that monster.
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Aisha Ctarl
0uter.Heaven
2506
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:20:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:DUST outputs its video at 720p - That's a resolution of 1280+ù720 (1280 pixels across and 720 down)
I have a 1920 x 1080 res screen that is only 28" and at times DUST doesn't look all that great as the screen is up-scaling the image to compensate for the lack or pixels. However it is fine and I am quite used to it.
I also think the PS3 has a rudimentary form of Anti-aliasing (A method that tries to smooth the jagged edges of pixels so they are not as apparent though I could be wrong here - WAIT I am wrong MOST games DO NOT use AA on PS3 only a edge blurr filter so this could be contributing to the problems)
I can only imagine what that looks like on a huge 70 inch screen! o_0. Also do you know what the refresh rate of the screen is? That could be a cause for concern if it is really slow (I would guess it would be at least 50-60 Hz so there should not be a problem)
120 Hz
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:21:00 -
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Does your television have 'game mode'? You may be dealing with the input lag caused by extra process of rendering your television is trying to handle. Larger televisions only compound this issue.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57558145-221/what-is-game-mode/
Edit. Point already brought up. Yes this is likely your issue.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:23:00 -
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Shiro Mokuzan wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:32' is the perfect size for gaming on a console If you're sitting about 4 feet away, yes. There is an optimal viewing distance for any given TV size and resolution. Bigger isn't better and smaller isn't better. It all depends on your room size and how far away you are.
The ideal distance to screen is about 4 times to 6 times the size of the screen |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:23:00 -
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This is what you need.
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN85S9AFXZA |
Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
335
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:31:00 -
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Blind Nojoy wrote:Input lag. Some of the larger tvs have a 20 ms or more seek time. This is why your controls may feel mushy. If you have ever played guitar hero on a big screen, that's why they have that calibrate option, so your drumming or whatever can be matched up to the console with what you actually see on the tv.
I do terrible on dust when I play on my big tv. I use a 19 in LCD to play dust. From what I have gathered in my research, 24 in with a seek time of less than 5 ms is ideal. BenQ makes some nice gaming displays that are actually really affordable. Probably gonna pick one up after the new year.
This. The newer large screens can feel terrible if seek time can't be sync'd with the media input. Games fair the worst, but I've seen one's where media players can be terrible on the screen. Someone said there's a feel like fast forward and slow motion all at once, which is exactly what it feels like. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1440
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:36:00 -
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For that price, I'll wait until Dust gets Oculus support.
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:39:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:I have a 42 inch, the only problems are with the game. lag and frame rate...
Plus the FOV on this game is like 45-¦ You have a 70" screen, but with blinders on. |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:39:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:For that price, I'll wait until Dust gets Oculus support.
Shoot, I'll take one in every color!
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:51:00 -
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You may want to look in your settings. There should be a motion blur setting, or something like that. I'd also suggest calling up you TV manufacturer, they may be able to walk you through settings adjustments and help with your issues.
I got my 55' Plasma Panasonic right afterSkyrim came out, and when I first played it on my TV, turning left or right was making me almost vomit. Messed with my motion blur settings, and did some other stuff I don't remember but the Panasonic people told me to do it and i've had no problems since.
Also, I hate to be this guy, but Vizio? :-(
Keep it clean (dust wise, real dust, not Dust 514), keep it cool, don't put it in an entertainment center, make sure it has tons of space to breath. Vizio uses cheap parts, and I doubt the thing will last you more than 5 years, maybe less. My damn Panasonic uses a crappy, cheap tuner board (which is already buzzing after less than 2 years), and when it goes out it's gonna cost me a couple hundred at least to fix it myself. Luckily i'm mechanically inclined, because thats gonna involve taking my TV apart.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2013.12.26 20:59:00 -
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it require more from your brain to process the image and lowers your split second reaction time..i play ona 50inch reg..and move to my den where i have a humble 32" for pc
why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:07:00 -
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Next guy to complain about having a 70" vizio is getting smacked and possible roflstomp.
You are welcome for my leadership
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Scalesdini
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:10:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Also, I hate to be this guy, but Vizio? :-(
Nothing wrong with Vizio, they make a decent TV for the price.
As others said, the issue is probably the 120hz part. My Insignia has some crap that allows me to turn on 120hz motion blur yada yada, effectively making everything look like a soap opera. It has been set to off, permanently, on every input.
I imagine your TV has a similar option. Try locating it and turning it off. |
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:22:00 -
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They use cheap parts, which is why they cost so much less. If you compare a Vizio to a, say, Samsung of the same type, size, ect ect, you will see a massive price difference. It's not cause Vizio is being nice, it is because they use cheap parts.
I bought my Panasonic just after new year a couple years back, and my understanding is after christmas, panasonic ripped out the expensive tuner boards from their left over plasmas of my model, replaced them with waaaay cheaper tuner boards, and advertised them as new years left over sales. Now I have a TV thats suppose to last around 200,000 hours at least, but probably won't make it through its 3rd year of life.
I've heard it plenty before but I went through Jim Jones' suicide tape transcript to find a good quote...jesus christ.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1429
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:28:00 -
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I would assume is because having a bigger TV means more sensory input for your brain to process, which means you can't reach as fast as you would if you had a smaller screen. On the contrary a smaller screen means you need to focus more to spot the smaller details, which adds to the better game play on a smaller screen. All in all I think it's just preference. |
Lamar Wheeler
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:28:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Next guy to complain about having a 70" vizio is getting smacked and possible roflstomp.
Vizo is a crappy TV. Only has 120Hz. He should have went Sharp or Samsung. They have 60in plus TV's with 240Hz. After you get to 60in or larger you need at least 240Hz. on your TV. Personally don't no how you can live with something smaller then 80in. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I have this beautiful 70 inch Vizio Smart TV that I simply cannot play playstation on.
Idk how to describe it, but it just feels TOO fluid. I can't aim or track targets at all on this thing. I just stuck with my PS Display. For some reason my gameplay is amazing on a smaller screen, but sucks complete ass on larger screens.
Anyone else experience this odd phenomenon?
Did you forget to deactivate the frame filling feature?
There are 120hz tvs that calculate additional frames in-between frames in order to make it look more fluid.
Which is obviously bad for gaming, like so many "helpful" features.
Very nice for movies, though, until we finally get 60fps as cinema standard. |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:38:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I have this beautiful 70 inch Vizio Smart TV that I simply cannot play playstation on.
Idk how to describe it, but it just feels TOO fluid. I can't aim or track targets at all on this thing. I just stuck with my PS Display. For some reason my gameplay is amazing on a smaller screen, but sucks complete ass on larger screens.
Anyone else experience this odd phenomenon?
Oddly enough yes. I have a 60in that I never play on for this reason. & I have tried so many times, but just cannot adjust to it. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
199
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:52:00 -
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Lamar Wheeler wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:Next guy to complain about having a 70" vizio is getting smacked and possible roflstomp. Vizo is a crappy TV. Only has 120Hz. He should have went Sharp or Samsung. They have 60in plus TV's with 240Hz. After you get to 60in or larger you need at least 240Hz. on your TV. Personally don't no how you can live with something smaller then 80in.
120 Hz is fine, anything above that is simply a marketing ploy or built for 3d playback. The 50" pioneer elite from 2003 sitting in my living room still blows the current cheap competition out of the water in terms of general picture quality albeit the higher wattage. I also have the advantage of no input lag which is good for gaming. High FIVE PLASMA MasterRace
Also 70" is a bit overkill 60 would be the max for me. In this case bigger isn't necessarily better. 4k was made for those sizes tho
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Lamar Wheeler
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:02:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:Lamar Wheeler wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:Next guy to complain about having a 70" vizio is getting smacked and possible roflstomp. Vizo is a crappy TV. Only has 120Hz. He should have went Sharp or Samsung. They have 60in plus TV's with 240Hz. After you get to 60in or larger you need at least 240Hz. on your TV. Personally don't no how you can live with something smaller then 80in. 120 Hz is fine, anything above that is simply a marketing ploy or built for 3d playback. The 50" pioneer elite from 2003 sitting in my living room still blows the current cheap competition out of the water in terms of general picture quality albeit the higher wattage. I also have the advantage of no input lag which is good for gaming. High FIVE PLASMA MasterRace Also 70" is a bit overkill 60 would be the max for me. In this case bigger isn't necessarily better. 4k was made for those sizes tho
59in an less, an your are correct 120hz is perfect. 60in an over you need 240Hz. Also 60in TV's are so tinny. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
120
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:05:00 -
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Big screens are good for sniping and using vehicles. Smaller screens are better for infantry combat. Just my experience.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
703
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:07:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:They use cheap parts, which is why they cost so much less. If you compare a Vizio to a, say, Samsung of the same type, size, ect ect, you will see a massive price difference. It's not cause Vizio is being nice, it is because they use cheap parts.
I bought my Panasonic just after new year a couple years back, and my understanding is after christmas, panasonic ripped out the expensive tuner boards from their left over plasmas of my model, replaced them with waaaay cheaper tuner boards, and advertised them as new years left over sales. Now I have a TV thats suppose to last around 200,000 hours at least, but probably won't make it through its 3rd year of life.
They don't use cheap parts, they use left over parts from all the other companies. They have a higher failure rate because they are all mixed and matched components on the inside.
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axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
127
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:11:00 -
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Indeed. I just upgraded from a lcd 32 inch to a 50 led and by god.. its just weird its like I'm focusing too hard or something but the scenery sure is beautiful on it :)
The best part of waking up,
is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
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