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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.26 14:03:00 -
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so ive noticed if you dont win the match you get 0 standings? .....so please explain why i should bother playing as either caldari or ammar ? srsly its not even worth the effort if i cant progress in my faction whilst the gallente and minmitar are just steam rolling the hell outta us >:C this is crap and faction standings needs to be implemented for losing sides please!! |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
588
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Posted - 2013.12.26 15:11:00 -
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becuase in that game mode winning matters, stick to pubs if you dont like it
also bring friends, ammar and caldari are easy to win if you bring a whole team with you |
pseudosnipre
416
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Posted - 2013.12.26 15:35:00 -
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Can't you just pay to, you know...win?
Besides, plenty of vets and squad synch going on in Cal/Amr, you just need to get with the program/be in the right channel. Got our assess handed to us by cubs' squad in Amarr fw a couple days ago and wtfrench queue synch was putting in work for the caldari last night.
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
61
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:55:00 -
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[quote=Ghosts Chance]becuase in that game mode winning matters, stick to pubs if you dont like it
also bring friends, ammar and caldari are easy to win if you bring a whole team with you[/quot]
i dont understand your thinking? yea winning matters but why should i even bother to help winning when the caldari sides are generally so frickn bad and then i get no reward !!! for example i can get 2000wp in FW then recieve 75 lp and 0 standings after being defeated whilst the other side is racking in up to 1000 lp !!? |
Malek McRoland
DUST University
Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:58:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:[quote=Ghosts Chance]becuase in that game mode winning matters, stick to pubs if you dont like it
also bring friends, ammar and caldari are easy to win if you bring a whole team with you[/quot]
i dont understand your thinking? yea winning matters but why should i even bother to help winning when the caldari sides are generally so frickn bad and then i get no reward !!! for example i can get 2000wp in FW then recieve 75 lp and 0 standings after being defeated whilst the other side is racking in up to 1000 lp !!?
Like its been said before: get a few friends to play for or join the chat channels dedicated to squading up for FW. Just remember that you aren't Rambo.
Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter
Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
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Southern1Cross
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:08:00 -
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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
61
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:10:00 -
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lol yes obviously dude , im always on faction chat every now and then theres a rare occasion when you find a good squad of guys who wanna have a decent game , but mostly its just some jackasses who have no idea what there doing! , i should be able to join any match and have a fighting chance , but you dont get that with caldari or ammar its an uphill struggle whilst a vast majority of players would rather take easy st and go gallente minmitar.
losing sucks but i can accept that! but losing and getting 75 lp and 0 standings is like being laughed at when u fall over 
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Namirial Kensai
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.12.27 02:32:00 -
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id just liek to eb able to complete a match, last 5 FW i managed to win as cal/amarr i'd get the fatal error screen ON THE FRICKIN RESULTS PAGE and not get any of the salvage/sp/lp i fricking played my ass off to earn |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
997
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Posted - 2013.12.27 02:35:00 -
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Namirial Kensai wrote:id just liek to eb able to complete a match, last 5 FW i managed to win as cal/amarr i'd get the fatal error screen ON THE FRICKIN RESULTS PAGE and not get any of the salvage/sp/lp i fricking played my ass off to earn
That sucks
KRRROOOOOOM
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6107
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Posted - 2013.12.27 02:55:00 -
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Wait, you actually want more rewards for the losing side? Get the f**k out of here.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6108
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Posted - 2013.12.27 03:02:00 -
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If the Amarr or Caldari are such bad players, perhaps it's time that those players learn to harden the hell up and use actual teamwork to fight against the Gallente and the Minmatar.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
707
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Posted - 2013.12.27 04:13:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:so ive noticed if you dont win the match you get 0 standings? .....so please explain why i should bother playing as either caldari or ammar ? srsly its not even worth the effort if i cant progress in my faction whilst the gallente and minmitar are just steam rolling the hell outta us >:C this is crap and faction standings needs to be implemented for losing sides please!!
You get zero standing BUT you do get Loyalty Points and Skill Points.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot (5).
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The Burned Man
Dead-Horses
0
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Posted - 2013.12.27 05:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If the Amarr or Caldari are such bad players, perhaps it's time that those players learn to harden the hell up and use actual teamwork to fight against the Gallente and the Minmatar.
The caldari/gallente fw battles iv been in were like a nightmare hell slaughter
Im not that great a player but we caldari never have a chance its not a complaint i dont mind dying k/d isnt important to me
but getting some points would be nice.
Has anyone seen Follows-Chalk?
He wandered off again
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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
61
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Posted - 2013.12.27 08:51:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If the Amarr or Caldari are such bad players, perhaps it's time that those players learn to harden the hell up and use actual teamwork to fight against the Gallente and the Minmatar.
lol gallente and minmitar factions dont win because of teamwork , they win because they have a ton of proto players that stomp the hell outta caldaris mlt std and adv guys |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
292
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Posted - 2013.12.27 09:07:00 -
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ive killed plenty of caldari statists in proto garb in fw, so dont blame it on poeple proto stomping the little caldari noobs cause not all of them are noobs just 75%ish. the reason the caldari and amar lose is because the have less players fighting for them.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1668
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Posted - 2013.12.27 10:38:00 -
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I just came from an Amarr FW. Everybody had their thumbs lodged up their ass. I've seen squids with more backbone than the majority of people I see in Caldari and Amarr.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
627
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Posted - 2013.12.27 10:54:00 -
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I've played for Caldari FW before. I think the problem is that the players for them are not willing to use their good gear to secure a victory.
When I play for Minmatar I'm surrounded by Adv gear or better.
I'm not saying the gear is important but it is an indication of the're dedication to win
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1178
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Posted - 2013.12.27 12:26:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I've seen squids with more backbone than the majority of people I see in Caldari and Amarr.
Liar, squids don't have backbones they are invertebrates/mollusks and strangely have more brains operating each limb than the average dust bunny, besides the caldari are squids.
on a more serious note, i thought ppl on the losing team did get standings, thought it was like 70 rather than the 300 odd for winning, I know the Lp is similar but I didn't think standings was absolute zero. |
Cal Predine
StarKnight Security
49
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Posted - 2014.01.01 18:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Wait, you actually want more rewards for the losing side? Get the f**k out of here.
Well, that's a valid enough observation as far as it goes, but we're not being given performance-related pay in Faction Warfare. Actually, we're not being given any pay - we're being given Loyalty points. The clue's in the name. The guy who gives a damn for his flag and sticks by it through thick and thin (usually thin, and even when his team let him down every time) is demonstrating more loyalty than the quick-buck bunny who joins the easy-win side and switches when the wind changes.
Looking at it from the faction's side (and maybe we should be), Faction Z HQ may notice that even though their side keeps losing, Merc A sticks by them anyway. Maybe Faction Z HQ might decide that Merc A should be beefed up a bit so he's more effective *on their behalf* in future battles. No point wasting resources on those soldiers who will switch flag the second things get tough.
There's the logic behind Loyalty Points being rewarded for, you know, loyalty...
And looking at it from a gameplay perspective (which we probably should also do) it's really not going to be any fun or challenge when the last Caldari and Amarr player has had enough, or simply can't afford the equipment to fight any more on their faction's behalf. That'll make for a rather long battle queue, it's not in anyone's interest.
We might even like to consider that the empires, for all their power, have immense, but finite, resources. Increasing the planets held by a faction should increase their share of those resources, for sure. But the tiny part of those resources which goes to their brave clone soldiers will be pretty diluted when almost everyone is fighting for the same side because it happens to be winning.
That's the game mechanic I'd like to see in place, but there are some pretty smart people here (not to mention at CCP), I'm sure there are other/ better ways to achieve the same goal of keeping FW worthwhile and relevant.
But that *is* the goal.
Makes you think, doesn't it? |
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