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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2013.12.26 07:32:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:How about this? When they release Cal Scout, give the bonus to nova knives to them and let them be the ninjas?
In exchange Min Scouts get passive bonuses to biotics? That way Gal scouts get to be the stealthy ones, and Min get to be the speedsters and the new guys get their race's knives back?
TL;DR: when you use the word Stealth, you mean omniscience from passive scans to avoid detection by knowing where and which way the enemy is facing to sneak up behind them. . . stealth as in ability to avoid active scanners should be the same across the board
Minmatar Scouts really aren't fit for CQC. Former pros at using the tac-AR, and now best with the Combat Rifle, they really make the best "Hunter Scouts." Roaming around the battle and taking out or picking off targets and then retreating fits their slot layout perfectly. Having a bonus to biotics would be great for them and this style of play.
The Nova Knives being a Caldari weapon, that bonus would fit better with them but until they are released I don't want to speculate too much on them. Of Course, you don't have to play a suit based off of its role bonus. Plenty of CQC Minmatar Scout, pleanty o long-range Gallente Scouts. You see Gallente Assaults with weapons that aren't just Hybrid ones and Amarr Assaults with things other than laser weapons.
(the too long part. yeah, I wrote enough for a whole thread of its own.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 07:56:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:-Not fast enough and not enough stamina for the amount of armor it looses
-Proto scouts gets scanned by proto scanners (proto scanner rougly 700k sp and proto scout is somewhere around 2.6 million) and then if you want to be unscannable you have to put on a complex dampener (700k sp) + you have to use one of your lows which either reduces tank, speed, and stamina
-Passive scan is utter sh*t on my proto scout, can't even see an enemy tank that is right next to me on the radar.
-They need to be cheaper because they die so fast (40k isk for the proto)
-need more CPU/PG
Other stuff that might make scout class special:
-shotgun be the weapon that is only usable by scouts....
Restricting a weapon to a certain class is never a good idea. Making a weapon more effective in a certain class's hand, perfectly acceptable. The shotgun is amazing in the hands of a Gallente Scout. Or is on a theoretical level, in practice it does better in a Gallente Assault or Gallente Logi's hands.
Just a correction: SP investment on an Active Scanner is 900K-1MSP, it has a x3 multiplier on the skill.
SP invesment on Range Amplification and Precision Enhancement is twice that, as both of them have a x3 multiplier.
Everyone has to use the dampening skill to avoid scanners to that SP requirement should be ignored.
Yes, it is completely unbalanced that a single equipment slot is more effective than 4 low slots (4 range amplifiers) and 1 high slot (precision enhancer)
IMO: buff passive scanning on all scout suits, nerf active scanners a comparable amount to make it a competitive choice rather than Gallente Scouts roaming around with Active Scanners.
I think, like in pre-uprising that the light frames scould cost less, the heavy frames cost more, but as someone pointed out the ridiculous cost of the commando, it should not be the prices they used to be. It should probably only be 5-10k difference.
They need more CPU/PG, they also need their 6th slot back
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Posted - 2013.12.26 19:35:00 -
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@ Ozarow, or you can get Engineering and Electronics to lvl 5 and run Wiyrkomi Triage nanohives 
Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I would need a buff to heavy frame effectiveness to history a price increase; they'd not be worth the cost should they undergo a price hike.
yeah, the heavies did get a buff to effectiveness, a pretty huge one at that. They received and extra 75 shield HP and 57 Armor HP, and more importantly they fixed and buffed the HMG this build. While the Forge Gun is currently the only viable anti-vehicle weapon.
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