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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.12.26 00:33:00 -
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Improved over the previous entire year's level of uselessness, but still useless nonetheless.
Wonder why CCP only ever wants there to be at most [one] small turret that's good for anything? What a waste |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 00:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I've found them to be quite useful in the right hands, and they are pretty good as far as AV is concerned.
And my friend The True Inferno rinses the other team when he puts one on his Incubus.
A turret that's good at everything? Missiles.
step 1: get in dropship
Step 2: man a proto small rail turret
step 3: empty clip after clip non-stop into militia shield tank
step 4: Realize that you will never kill this thing. Ever.
Step 5: retire the small rail turret from use - ever. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 00:40:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Atiim wrote:I've found them to be quite useful in the right hands, and they are pretty good as far as AV is concerned.
And my friend The True Inferno rinses the other team when he puts one on his Incubus.
A turret that's good at everything? Missiles. It's less damage than missiles against vehicles and worse than missiles and blasters for infantry. It's useless.
Yup :)
And it's supposed to be AV. Or at the very least anti-shield-AV.
It fails harder than the Cameron's anti-****(adult content website) filter in both respects. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 00:43:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Right, I loving having to forgo my Incubus skill bonus because missiles are the only useful small turret from the air. Even better I have to get ammo more often, and the few supply depots are generally very hard to access from the air. Yes I can put it down right between the depot and building but getting into position leaves me wide open for an extended period of time.
It was absolutely face-palm for CCP to attach small turret type bonuses to the assault dropships.
Really? Again, confirming they have never flown these things.
And again confirming they want absolutely no fitting variety in Dust.
Have only 1/3 small turrets who's current design is usable on a flying, moving platform?
Lets give a ROF bonus to that turret to ONE of a pair of racial ships. Brilliant!
No but really, who comes up with this stuff? |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 00:54:00 -
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KhanidVictor wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Improved over the previous entire year's level of uselessness, but still useless nonetheless.
Wonder why CCP only ever wants there to be at most [one] small turret that's good for anything? What a waste Hey I actually managed to kill a single merc. with one the other day! Granted both him and I were totally motion-less but I was shocked none the less.
I am busy crafting your medal right now sir.
This is a momentous occasion in Dust history.
Your children will speak of this for centuries to come. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 01:33:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Right, I loving having to forgo my Incubus skill bonus because missiles are the only useful small turret from the air. Even better I have to get ammo more often, and the few supply depots are generally very hard to access from the air. Yes I can put it down right between the depot and building but getting into position leaves me wide open for an extended period of time. It was absolutely face-palm for CCP to attach small turret type bonuses to the assault dropships. Really? Again, confirming they have never flown these things. And again confirming they want absolutely no fitting variety in Dust.
Have only 1/3 small turrets who's current design is usable on a flying, moving platform? Lets give a ROF bonus to that turret to ONE of a pair of racial ships. Brilliant! No but really, who comes up with this stuff? yeah i have noticed incubuses attacking my tank with rails..with my soma my regen heals the dmg shot for shot..so really its negligible unless they catch me in an instant where im already almost dead..they will never kill me...and if they dont and miss that instant poof full health
That's pretty much how it goes.
Best case, you nail every shot (nearly impossible from DS) and that's not enough.
So anything less is equally not enough.
And yeah, if you catch tank with 10 HP left and no hardeners you're gonna kill it but at that point a mass driver could have done it. It's no accomplishment of the small rail and speaks nothing to the efficacy of small rails. For that situation |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 02:43:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Improved over the previous entire year's level of uselessness, but still useless nonetheless.
Wonder why CCP only ever wants there to be at most [one] small turret that's good for anything? What a waste they are amazing on tanks in dust? r u sure..ive seen incubuses flying over my tank all the time..when they are packing rails its like the are flinging rice at me actually flinging rice would probably be more effective
He's saying they're good on tanks.
A. tanks hardly need or use small turret support right now, so adding any would be icing for them. You wouldn't notice if the turret was a bad militia with half its shots missing.
B. small rails work better on stationary platforms. Or where movement is more limited. Tanks are on the ground and have far less Z axis movement to deal with.
Dropships have constant X,Y,Z axis, and tilt lol.
C. easier to hit targets on their broadside from a horizontal than from a vertical. Obviously true of infantry, hence the LAV's being able to snipe stationary infantry when stationary. Try that from a DS. Not happening without pure luck. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:15:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Been sniping Infantry with my militia rail, will swap from Blaster to the small rail (really fucks with the Infantry who think I'm looking the other way) and then will just headshot someone, it's great fun.
on what vehicle.
I don't think it should be the case that each turret type is by its nature worthless for certain vehicle types. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:28:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Been sniping Infantry with my militia rail, will swap from Blaster to the small rail (really fucks with the Infantry who think I'm looking the other way) and then will just headshot someone, it's great fun. on what vehicle. I don't think it should be the case that each turret type is by its nature worthless for certain vehicle types. Tank ofc :P I don't know, they work pretty well for ground combat and I thought it was more of a precision/av weapon anyways, and I've been getting shot to **** by Dropships using a rail, they're hitting me just fine Q_Q
I'll call you in a python with 3x complex dmg mods and 3x proto small rails, you can fill your crew with it and try to go tank hunting.
Aside from the fact that this ship will be 1 shot by anything, if you manage to hover over a tank you'll see the problem with rails.
Or if you prefer to parse it out a bit better I can get you in an incubus and line you up for as many shots with a proto small rail as you like. Let you feel how it does. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 18:04:00 -
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handkerchief guy wrote:What I want is new hybrid turrets (n+ÇGêÇ-¦)n+ë
You want new things in Dust?
First off, lol.
Second off, they'd all be broken anyhow. |
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