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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2013.12.25 19:04:00 -
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that it takes 3 to destroy a militia LAV can we at least make them also work on turret installations? |
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Posted - 2013.12.25 20:26:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:AV grenades weren't even OP because you had to get uber close to the tank for them to actually work.
And if you got hit with an AV grenade then you clearly weren't paying attention to your surroundings and deserved to die. Well, I think they were abit too much, but I think the nerf went too far.
They were fine because they had the highest CPU/PG cost of any grenade and also reduced effectiveness as any infantry soldier considering how devastating Core locus grenades are and how useful fluxes are. A properly fit tank still took over 5 to destroy which means you had to get behind the tank and drop a nanohive which has a very distinctive activation sound which proper tankers actually listened for. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 00:40:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:yup, because it wasn't OP for ANY city based map(all of them) to be an absolute deathtrap for tanks.
"We need you to help push in the city"
"really? because you all know that this tank is dead in the city, right?"
6 seconds into the city, I get hit with 8 packed grenades that were thrown from 5 people. Over walls, from well behind cover, two from a rooftop. 3 of them exploded on my burning wreckage from the first 5.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't OP to have the most damaging AV weapon also be the only one that can be used from well behind cover, over walls, or just dropped in the street to wait for a tank like a better version of an PE.
so you had to get within 30 meters of a tank.with cover(or really any city map that had a wall) you were effectively immortal, that close to my tank, and you had enough punch to destroy my tank, while I couldn't touch you.
So sorry that your grenade is no longer the best AV weapon in the game by light-years.
So if CCP introduced a dropsuit that comes with a weapon that at militia and standard levels destroys every type of infantry and vehicles with ease and requires 3 prototype players specifically skilled to just take out that dropsuit and by skilling into this dropsuit's counter they then are almost useless against other infantry, making the best counter the same suit. Yup that sounds like balance  Oh and also its only twice as expensive as full proto equipment logis suits which can cost up to 300k |
stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2013.12.26 01:54:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:
Know why? The ARtards are crying, and CCP listens to them above any other portion of their playerbase.
That explains why tanks are got a buff and price reduction while forge guns, swarm launchers, and AV grenades all got nerfed 
Honestly are all the tankers on the forums this oblivious |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 02:24:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:6 seconds into the city, I get hit with 8 packed grenades that were thrown from 5 people. Over walls, from well behind cover, two from a rooftop. 3 of them exploded on my burning wreckage from the first 5. Yeah, it's totally unfair that 5 people using teamwork could take out one Leeroy Jenkins Yup, especially when I was in squad, and on orders to suppress the guys in the city with a tank. Such leeroy jenkins-ing, right? yeah, tanks got a buff, and we only had to have a massive fit over being nerfed for 6 straight months. The ARs have yet to get a major nerf, unless it's totally and completely broken(tac rifle) and even then, were you even around for the massive ****storm that happened when the "pro" players lost their crutch?Tanks had to be on the short end of the stick for half a year. You haven't even been on the short end for 3 weeks yet. So, cram it.
You do realize that the SCR, CR, and RR are all way better than the AR and also the HMG got a serious Buff.
Again how oblivious are you? |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 02:35:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:yeah, tanks got a buff, and we only had to have a massive fit over being nerfed for 6 straight months. The ARs have yet to get a major nerf, unless it's totally and completely broken(tac rifle) and even then, were you even around for the massive ****storm that happened when the "pro" players lost their crutch?
You do realize that the SCR, CR, and RR are all way better than the AR and also the HMG got a serious Buff. Again how oblivious are you? Oh wait you're inside of a tank all game and you're crying about about AR's you not oblivious you're just mentally challenged. I tried to use a less politically correct term the the censors wouldn't allow it.  You do know the AR is on par with the weapons right? Just not as much range (I'm guessing you haven't used the AR since 1.6)
I have Proficiency 5 in AR and have used it since the Creodron Breach reigned supreme, I have no proficiency in the SCR, RR, or CR and they all kill faster than my duvolle. |
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:04:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Not so much as you.  You do realize that they're made to be used differently, don't you? Or are you trying to be rambo and ignoring cover? How strange that the people that get killed by those aren't whining like little girls...
The RR is meant to be long range yet its still better in CQC than the AR, the CR is meant to be CQC bast but has better range then the AR, the SCR with proficiency 5 and 3 complex damage mods is does just under 1300 DPS the same setup with the AR is 650 DPS and the SCR also has more range the AR
Heathen Bastard wrote:
Oh right, it's because the two new guns are new so they're expected to be OP, the SCR has always had the highest alpha strike, and the HMG was a joke for the last few months and is now performing as expected.
The HMG buff was good and necessary.
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But people got used to tanks being made of cheap tissue paper, so now that they're not, the AV players are whining. I come from well back, closed beta. You know that AV used to actually be job? Not just a "switch, kill tank before you have to reload, switch back to my proto slayer suit" thing, but an honest to goodness role for someone to do for the whole match, to memorize the maps, the strategies, the fitting grade by health of vehicle. To organize squads with, logi, slayer, heavy/slayer, AV guy.
Now that AV is a role again, you guys don't know how to adapt since all the old AVers stopped playing or changed their role. Tankers? We got better, we had to. Now you're dealing with tankers who could survive paper tanks(suicide orders aside) fighting against weaker AV with stronger tanks.
During E3 build of closed beta when we had Sagaris and Suryas I was full time AV proto swarms and proto SMG and I finished the build #1 on the leaderboards in Warpoints because I was a damn good AV player, hacked objectives, and destroyed with the SMG.
Or jackasses who abuse the FOTM spamming the crap out of MLT tanks(which, even real tankers are agreeing are far to strong for no investment)
I wonder which section of this you're going to respond to this time. [/quote]
All of them.
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:56:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Jackof All-Trades wrote:Well personally, I do think it should be hard for AV's to take out tanks. But not LAV's. Those are SUPPOSED to be glass cannons. Why would it take 3 of the bloody things, which have drawbacks in nearly every way, just to kill them? And what do you do when another LAV comes around and you haven't resupplied?
Well I'm not speccing grenades Where does it say that?
HAV: Heavy Attack Vehicle (tank)
LAV: Light Attack Vehicle (jeep)
its not too hard to figure out. |
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