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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.25 19:08:00 -
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AV grenades weren't even OP because you had to get uber close to the tank for them to actually work.
And if you got hit with an AV grenade then you clearly weren't paying attention to your surroundings and deserved to die.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.25 20:22:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:AV grenades weren't even OP because you had to get uber close to the tank for them to actually work.
And if you got hit with an AV grenade then you clearly weren't paying attention to your surroundings and deserved to die. Well, I think they were abit too much, but I think the nerf went too far.
Well, I guess they may have needed a slight adjustment.
But they still went way too far.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.25 23:56:00 -
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dogmanpig wrote:nothing like EZ mode taking away crying babies to bring joy to me.
feed me your tears!
Talks about ez-mode.
Drives tanks
I won't feed you, as obesity is not something I condone, but I will sip on your tears pre-1/7, as well as get my cup ready for when they nerf tanks.
cI_I
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.26 03:55:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:yup, because it wasn't OP for ANY city based map(all of them) to be an absolute deathtrap for tanks.
"We need you to help push in the city"
"really? because you all know that this tank is dead in the city, right?"
6 seconds into the city, I get hit with 8 packed grenades that were thrown from 5 people. Over walls, from well behind cover, two from a rooftop. 3 of them exploded on my burning wreckage from the first 5.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't OP to have the most damaging AV weapon also be the only one that can be used from well behind cover, over walls, or just dropped in the street to wait for a tank like a better version of an PE.
so you had to get within 30 meters of a tank.with cover(or really any city map that had a wall) you were effectively immortal, that close to my tank, and you had enough punch to destroy my tank, while I couldn't touch you.
So sorry that your grenade is no longer the best AV weapon in the game by light-years.
That's called being situational. Let's clarify.
Tanks are a NICHE. And just like other NICHES they need to perform well in their respective NICHE, while performing terribly outside of their NICHE.
Tanks are good in mid range combat and open fields, but doesn't do well in CQC areas such as a city due to AV grenades. (At least that's how they were before the tank buff. Now the only thing a tank isn't good for is hacking. lol nvm you can just butcher the enemy clone reserves anyway.)
30m? Try 10m. If you want to throw from 30m then you have to adjust your arc significantly, giving the pilot tons of time to react, as you won't be able to throw them in rapid succession.
Most Damaging weapon? Not even close. And this would require the tank to be within 10-15m of you, be piloted by a bad driver, and/or not be using an active scanner.
Behind Cover? Here's the thing. EVERY AV WEAPON BESIDES SWARM LAUNCHERS AND BREACH FORGE GUNS CAN BE USED BEHIND COVER. (To an extent).
You now have the ability to stomp infantry with theoretical impunity. Your point?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.26 04:08:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Just posting to say AV nades were OP as **** and people are like "NOW I CAN'T THREE SHOT LAVS WITH SUPPORT AV", no ****, you know why nobody uses LAVs properly? Like using as support and such? Two reasons, **** like AV nades two shotting them with no issue and snipers because some idiot didn't think about adding a shield to the turret itself.
Seriously, this is not just Tanks v AV, your thoughts need to encompass every vehicle currently in game along with the new possible ones
But on topic, sure you can blow up Installations, it'd make things easier for me :)
It's not just Tanks v AV, but considering how the majority of tanks are used against infantry instead of vehicles, while also having the ability to butcher infantry with ease, Tanks v AV is practically all that matters now. Tank v Tank is about as balanced as it gets atm. (Except those Railguns. They need some serious tone-downs)
Remove the Large Blaster Turret and you can go on about your "Tank v Tank" balance fantasy as much as you want.
Funny. My LLAV fit could easily survive 2 Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades. I used my LLAV as support with things such as repping the team, repping friendly vehicles, scanning, and even had a Cycled Missile Launcher for my gunner to enjoy. AV grenades weren't something I ever had to fear unless I was going on a murder taxi spreee.
I don't care if it is support or not. My Tier IV, Meta level 9 weapon should be able to at least three shot a Tier I Meta Level 0 MLT Item. That's called logic.
OFCR>PRO>ADV>STDGëÑMLT
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