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Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Sgt Kirk wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then

I don't think that'd be more diverse.
That leaves the only practical highslot option as shield extenders. It effectively forces people to shield tank.

it sounded better in his head! I swear!

Coming from a guy who can armor tank and have all the damage mods he wants I can either Shield tank and have no damage mods or damage mods with armor plates. See now isn't a armor guy in eve not supposed to be a heavy hitter since they have so much armor and the shield guys have a smidgen less but can hit harder hmm something isn't right here when people are supposed to have shields and not dual tank I personally hate damage mods they should be removed. But for a dunce like you whom needs a logi suit with a AR to win well yea. I'm a heavy and I say yes shields needs a buff why you may ask because I haven't seen a shield tanker yet and when I do they don't last long because they can't deliver the firepower to kill me even at range where I'm gently tickling them followed by me hunting them down to get them while their shields recharge. TTK and damage period have ruined anything not armor (tanking except vehicles). They need loving give it to em

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Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1389	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:51:00 - [1] - Quote Are better dual tankers than the Amarr, discuss you neck beards. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 351	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:52:00 - [2] - Quote Armor rules. shields are up right now shields need a tad bit more HP not more then armor but a tad bit more We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 180	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:57:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Are better dual tankers than the Amarr, discuss you neck beards. I agree. In my opinion, as a Caldari suit user, it's because with the TTK so low now energizers and regulators rarely come into play. It's better to stack armor than to rely on hiding in cover to let your shields regen, even if it's much faster than armor regen. Not to mention everyone and their mother uses damage mods so at least two of my high slots are immediately taken up with damage mods just to be able to compete.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 351	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:01:00 - [4] - Quote I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 6818	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:05:00 - [5] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then I don't think that'd be more diverse. That leaves the only practical highslot option as shield extenders. It effectively forces people to shield tank. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1392	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:05:00 - [6] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then When you can mod your guns I'd like to see pure DMG mods thrown out the window, now back on topic the caldari have a lot of shields from the start and just 2 basic armor plates can get you to the same amount of armor "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven 2447	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Are better dual tankers than the Amarr, discuss you neck beards. I hate to admit it, but it's true. Yeah I may have 515 armor on an adv Amarr Assault suit, and two complex damage mods in the highs, but Caldari are far better dual tankers than Amarr. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1599	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:10:00 - [8] - Quote Dual tanking is a sin so i don't care who does it better. Amarr! Try EVE Online Selling Templar BPO
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1393	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:19:00 - [9] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Dual tanking is a sin so i don't care who does it better. I know Viktor but I just find it funny how the Amarr are projected as dual tankers having the best of both worlds while every Amarr supporter and their 5th cousins are armor tanking those suits because they're already slow as hell. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Sgt Kirk Kirk Industries 3832	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:21:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then I don't think that'd be more diverse. That leaves the only practical highslot option as shield extenders. It effectively forces people to shield tank. it sounded better in his head! I swear!

m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 183	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:29:00 - [11] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then I don't think that'd be more diverse. That leaves the only practical highslot option as shield extenders. It effectively forces people to shield tank. You're right, but on the flip side right now most people are effectively forced to armor tank. At least in my opinion. There aren't a whole lot of options other than shield extenders and damage mods for highs - armor plates and armor reps as lows, other than perhaps profile dampeners. (Talking about medium suits not scouts btw) Anyways, back to the OP. The Amarr slot count is actually perfectly fine for dual tanking, in theory. Unfortunately you can't make a proper dual tank suit because you need damage mods in the high. If you replace the damage mods with shields then you're going to want profile dampeners in your lows so you can sneak up on enemies to get the extra DPS in before they see you.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 351	Posted - 2013.12.25 19:02:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then I don't think that'd be more diverse. That leaves the only practical highslot option as shield extenders. It effectively forces people to shield tank. it sounded better in his head! I swear! Coming from a guy who can armor tank and have all the damage mods he wants I can either Shield tank and have no damage mods or damage mods with armor plates. See now isn't a armor guy in eve not supposed to be a heavy hitter since they have so much armor and the shield guys have a smidgen less but can hit harder hmm something isn't right here when people are supposed to have shields and not dual tank I personally hate damage mods they should be removed. But for a dunce like you whom needs a logi suit with a AR to win well yea. I'm a heavy and I say yes shields needs a buff why you may ask because I haven't seen a shield tanker yet and when I do they don't last long because they can't deliver the firepower to kill me even at range where I'm gently tickling them followed by me hunting them down to get them while their shields recharge. TTK and damage period have ruined anything not armor (tanking except vehicles). They need loving give it to em We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 183	Posted - 2013.12.25 19:22:00 - [13] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then Agreed. Damage mods SHOULD be low slot modules. It's in the lore of EVE. Used daily by EVE pilots. This is an EVE based game if I'm not mistaken. Shield users are suppose to be fast, put out a lot of DPS for a short amount of time, run away, recharge and then go back into the battle. Armor users are suppose to be able to tank damage, put out normal amounts of DPS for extended periods of time, run away, repair and then go back into battle. But in actuality it's... Shield users ignore shields, use damage mods to compete and stack armor. Armor users ignore shields, use damage mods because there's nothing else for high slots and stack armor. Thus making both play styles the same, which they should be completely different. The Amarr are suppose to have the best of both worlds, sadly they don't. Almost all suits I see on the field are armor heavy. Whether it's Minmatar, Gallente, Amarr or Caldari. It's really the only viable option. I for one shoot down shield users before armor users knowing they'll go down much quicker. The real name of this thread should be "CCPs balancing and understanding of the 10 year old Lore is UP. Buff CCPs intelligence."
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 352	Posted - 2013.12.25 19:30:00 - [14] - Quote Wow someone who understands eve who would a thunk it We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 312	Posted - 2013.12.25 20:31:00 - [15] - Quote m twiggz wrote: (...) Shield users ignore shields, use damage mods to compete and stack armor. (...) Almost all suits I see on the field are armor heavy. Whether it's Minmatar, Gallente, Amarr or Caldari. It's really the only viable option. (...) Now I am not entering the discussion whether shiled tanking (or any tanking as such) is UP in current meta, but do you really want to tell us that, for example, this gentleman: https://zkillboard.com/detail/35141523/ isn't viable and cannot compete? v0v ZEN 514
Sgt Kirk Kirk Industries 3838	Posted - 2013.12.25 20:44:00 - [16] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Coming from a guy who can armor tank and have all the damage mods he wants I can either Shield tank and have no damage mods or damage mods with armor plates. See now isn't a armor guy in eve not supposed to be a heavy hitter since they have so much armor and the shield guys have a smidgen less but can hit harder hmm something isn't right here when people are supposed to have shields and not dual tank I personally hate damage mods they should be removed. But for a dunce like you whom needs a logi suit with a AR to win well yea. lol dude everything you post makes me facepalm. First off I use only one damage modifier, second I use a Gallente assault, the worst assault in the game. Damn Vermin
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1074	Posted - 2013.12.25 22:36:00 - [17] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: I just thought of an idea damage mods in low slots like in eve ^_^ wait. Someone said this is dumb before but it sounds smart since you'd have to choose reps, regulators, plates, or duh duh duh damage mods. Hell I'd think their would be more diverse suits then I don't think that'd be more diverse. That leaves the only practical highslot option as shield extenders. It effectively forces people to shield tank. it sounded better in his head! I swear! Coming from a guy who can armor tank and have all the damage mods he wants I can either Shield tank and have no damage mods or damage mods with armor plates. See now isn't a armor guy in eve not supposed to be a heavy hitter since they have so much armor and the shield guys have a smidgen less but can hit harder hmm something isn't right here when people are supposed to have shields and not dual tank I personally hate damage mods they should be removed. But for a dunce like you whom needs a logi suit with a AR to win well yea. I'm a heavy and I say yes shields needs a buff why you may ask because I haven't seen a shield tanker yet and when I do they don't last long because they can't deliver the firepower to kill me even at range where I'm gently tickling them followed by me hunting them down to get them while their shields recharge. TTK and damage period have ruined anything not armor (tanking except vehicles). They need loving give it to em Implying that shield tanking is worse than armor outside of huge fleets.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2460	Posted - 2013.12.25 22:50:00 - [18] - Quote If Caldari, you dual tank. Versatility is key here. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]


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