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gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 92	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:49:00 - [1] - Quote thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 3003	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:53:00 - [2] - Quote gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Seriously? ......is this a troll? When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 92	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:55:00 - [3] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Seriously? ......is this a troll? how so there slow as hell an no its not a troll
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 2194	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:55:00 - [4] - Quote All Gallente AR variants need some serious rework. Burst, Breach and Tactical AR are obsolete, but for some reason all the Assault versions of the other rifles are extremely competitive... 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 3003	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:57:00 - [5] - Quote gabriel login wrote: Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Seriously? ......is this a troll? how so there slow as hell an no its not a troll That's the point of the ******* weapon! It's supposed to have high damage, slow ROF. Read the description of it, please. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 92	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:58:00 - [6] - Quote i mean come on a proto breach is out dps but a std ar how is that even close to usefull.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 92	Posted - 2013.12.25 13:59:00 - [7] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Seriously? ......is this a troll? how so there slow as hell an no its not a troll That's the point of the ******* weapon! It's supposed to have high damage, slow ROF. Read the description of it, please. yes i understand that but the weapon is so slow that even with high damage its doin less damage than just a an ar.
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 92	Posted - 2013.12.25 14:09:00 - [8] - Quote 500 rpm might be a bit high so how about up it from 400 to 418 up to maby 436 or something a bit more than 400 thats just to slow an maks the weapon feel a bit off.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2954	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:11:00 - [9] - Quote Or or... We could just increase the damage at close range. mind blow My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1833	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:47:00 - [10] - Quote I've said this. It also needs a slight dmg buff and a slightly larger mag. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 575	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:50:00 - [11] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Seriously? ......is this a troll? how so there slow as hell an no its not a troll That's the point of the ******* weapon! It's supposed to have high damage, slow ROF. Read the description of it, please. Patrick, give him chance. What's wrong with ALL breach rifles getting a ROF buff...I can use some extra ROF for my Rail Rifle...you know, the thing that sets the standard for breach variants and is designed to outperform them and make them think their weapon is UP. (It's early so I'm more snarky than ususal... )
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 94	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:56:00 - [12] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: Patrick57 wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 450 to 500 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Seriously? ......is this a troll? how so there slow as hell an no its not a troll That's the point of the ******* weapon! It's supposed to have high damage, slow ROF. Read the description of it, please. Patrick, give him chance. What's wrong with ALL breach rifles getting a ROF buff...I can use some extra ROF for my Rail Rifle...you know, the thing that sets the standard for breach variants and is designed to outperform them and make them think their weapon is UP. (It's early so I'm more snarky than ususal... ) when was the last time you seen people use the breach of any ar for real like what 1 maybe 2 or 3 people in like 100 games played. the rail has 461.54 rpm and it feels fine to shoot as for the breach its 400 rpm an the gun feels like its dieing with as slow as it shoot if you up it just a bit it would make it more usefull an we would see other weapon on the field. like i said 500 rpm would be to much but a buff to 418 to 436 rpm would still mean that the raill is faster an would make the breach the cqc weapon its ment to be.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7107	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:13:00 - [13] - Quote You are aware that 18 or 36 RPM is so minor it's not worth bothering, yes? I do, however, agree. Primarily with Keri's post. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 94	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:24:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You are aware that 18 or 36 RPM is so minor it's not worth bothering, yes? I do, however, agree. Primarily with Keri's post. thats the point it would make the fire rate feel smoother an not op the gun just go an use the breach for a sec an you will see what i mean.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3455	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:03:00 - [15] - Quote Working as intended. It's meant to be a crap version of that damned rail rifle, the other variant weapons are over performing and need to be nocked down a peg. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 94	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:16:00 - [16] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Working as intended. It's meant to be a crap version of that damned rail rifle, the other variant weapons are over performing and need to be nocked down a peg. an that is true but what i am getting at is the weapons fire rate feels like its struggling to shoot. just shot 1 it feels rong. i mean a slight buff to rof wont hurt nothing a 418 rpm at max 436 rpm would make the gun feel right an make it good at cqc.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 223	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:21:00 - [17] - Quote gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 418 to 436 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. Nope. Breach variants of the assault rifle should be deleted now that the REAL breach rifle is here (Rail Rifle). Like all the Weapons variants exept the "assault" variant. Same for the Burst Rifle. To the other Hand Light Weapons should be Respec. (If it happens) And All rifles (RR / CR / SR / AR) should be heavily nerfed. They just killed the game. You see it first you win. Welcome in Call of Duty 514.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 903	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:26:00 - [18] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Working as intended. It's meant to be a crap version of that damned rail rifle, the other variant weapons are over performing and need to be nocked down a peg. breach was a bad choice before 1.7 and has been a bad choice since they were OP many builds ago. the tac AR and burst AR were okay if you stacked damage mods but otherwise they were pretty bad as well. I'm not sure working as intended is the phrase of choice. options: buff blaster rifle and variants nerf CB and RR and variants (then probably minor buff to blaster rifle variants but not the blaster rifle) it's an matter of personal preference which is better. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 529	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:37:00 - [19] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Working as intended. It's meant to be a crap version of that damned rail rifle, the other variant weapons are over performing and need to be nocked down a peg. I don't think the ARR is more powerful than it should be. It has iron sights, so is presumably primarily for close range use, but the low DPS (once charge up time is taken into account) makes it weak in that area. You may have a point about ACR and AScR though. Maybe the best option would be a slight DPS nerf on these three weapons. To make the ARR at least halfway viable after that nerf add a proper sight. It seems weird that it doesn't have one when the other rifle variants get one and it's nominal range is longer than them.
the shadow dragon Paladen Night's 0	Posted - 2013.12.28 02:28:00 - [20] - Quote gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 418 to 436 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. get a mod controller problem solved your welcome.

gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 94	Posted - 2013.12.28 06:54:00 - [21] - Quote the shadow dragon wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 418 to 436 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. get a mod controller problem solved your welcome. how will that help the breach even with a mod controller the fire rate cap is still to slow kinda like you.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2986	Posted - 2013.12.28 06:57:00 - [22] - Quote Just increase the damage by 15% at the first 40M. Also, learn how to double shoot. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 3332	Posted - 2013.12.28 06:59:00 - [23] - Quote the shadow dragon wrote: gabriel login wrote: thay just fire way to slow to out dps the other rifles if we could get the fire rate up from 400 to 418 to 436 the breach weapons would be a good gun to use. get a mod controller problem solved your welcome. This is what happens when two people with bad grammar meet each other... When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Tectonic Fusion 865	Posted - 2013.12.28 07:11:00 - [24] - Quote It needs to at least out DPS the Rail RIfle. I know it's suppose to be a sucky version of it, however, it's terrible range would make up for it. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 732	Posted - 2013.12.28 07:56:00 - [25] - Quote Swap the damage of the Breach AR and TAC AR and give the TAC its old fire rate and larger clip and boom both guns are balances and viable. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 363	Posted - 2013.12.28 09:25:00 - [26] - Quote No We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 502	Posted - 2013.12.28 11:08:00 - [27] - Quote What are the statistics for the breach AR? IIRC something along the lines of 40 odd damage per round at a 400rpm? The rail rifle has something like a 60 odd damage per round at a slightly higher rate of fire AND has a much greater effective range? (With only a tiny .25 sec charge time as a downside). I could be off a little bit with the exact details so I think I will go check this out later. However that seems very unfair.


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