DUST Search - a big **** you to core upgrades

I-Shayz-I wrote:

I have 26 million sp and I only recently maxed circuitry, engineering, and core upgrades.

Trust me, level 5 is not worth it until late game, because you could be spending your sp on way better things. Personally I'd look for skills that reduce cpu/pg cost of weapons or items. For instance the nanocircuitry skill gives you an invisible bonus of 5% cpu reduction per level.

If you use weapons like the scrambler rifle, skilling into proficiency and then fitting op will help drastically. The light weapon skill is also another good one to take to level 4 as it reduces cpu on all light weapons.

I mean, I still don't even have level 5 armor or shields yet. The extra 5% bonus just doesn't exactly mean a lot to me for the sp cost...we're talking like another 4 shields on my logi, that's barely anything. The only reason I have them past level 1 is because I occasionally run a heavy suit...and each of those upgrades gives me an additional 25 shield/armor, which is worthwhile.

Try changing things around a bit too. If you use armor plates, going from enhanced to basic only sacrifices like 30ish armor to free up an additional 5 pg. Same thing goes for complex shield extenders and damage mods, which eat up your fitting space. Also, combos like a basic weapon + complex damage mod is more effective isk-wise than just using a prototype weapon.


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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 827	Posted - 2013.12.24 15:16:00 - [1] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I have 26 million sp and I only recently maxed circuitry, engineering, and core upgrades. Trust me, level 5 is not worth it until late game, because you could be spending your sp on way better things. Personally I'd look for skills that reduce cpu/pg cost of weapons or items. For instance the nanocircuitry skill gives you an invisible bonus of 5% cpu reduction per level. If you use weapons like the scrambler rifle, skilling into proficiency and then fitting op will help drastically. The light weapon skill is also another good one to take to level 4 as it reduces cpu on all light weapons. I mean, I still don't even have level 5 armor or shields yet. The extra 5% bonus just doesn't exactly mean a lot to me for the sp cost...we're talking like another 4 shields on my logi, that's barely anything. The only reason I have them past level 1 is because I occasionally run a heavy suit...and each of those upgrades gives me an additional 25 shield/armor, which is worthwhile. Try changing things around a bit too. If you use armor plates, going from enhanced to basic only sacrifices like 30ish armor to free up an additional 5 pg. Same thing goes for complex shield extenders and damage mods, which eat up your fitting space. Also, combos like a basic weapon + complex damage mod is more effective isk-wise than just using a prototype weapon. Indeed. Props to you for making me realize that about level 5 in one of your videos. I was at 13-13 mil SP at the time, still barely knew WTF I was doing, lol. That's the Dust skill tree for you... And, just a suggestion to the OP, not trolling at all: The skill tells you eactly what it does, i.e., 1% bonus to PG and SP, or x% to shields, stamina, whatever. Calculate it out before you spend the SP and you'll save yourself the headache. Great example are the enigneering, electronics, and core upgrade skills. They all kinda do the same thing, right? So you need to look at how much SP the next level of each one is and what the benefit to you will be. That way you'll choose the right one: Do I spend 310k for 1% of both or 466k (or whatever) for 5% of one? Those skills are basically mandatory for Logi's but not necessarily for everyone else depending on where you are in your progression. Race matters too. For example, Amarr logi suits are limited by their PG, and Caldari suits more by their CPU. Simple math dictates that 5% CPU is more points than 5% PG, but PG matters way more on the suits I use more (Amarr) so that's what I prioritized. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 828	Posted - 2013.12.24 15:19:00 - [2] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Upgrading all my fitting skills was the most painful part of the grind. Core Upgrades absolutely sucks, yes, but what about Engineering and Electronics being 5x Skills? My God, CCP, you really love us, don't you... I thought that the nightmare was over, but now I'm looking at "Fitting Optimization" for my Madrugar and it makes wanna die. http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/160x/1751720.jpg Don't I know it. IMO, nothing should be a 5x skill, that's just soul-crushing. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!